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01:48:14 <[bjoern]> .gc "middle earth opera"
01:48:14 <phenny> "middle earth opera": 1
01:48:20 <[bjoern]> .g "middle earth opera"
01:48:20 <phenny> [bjoern]: http://tolkienguide.livejournal.com/profile
01:52:00 <nsh> .gc +"historikitsch"
01:52:01 <phenny> +"historikitsch": 0
01:52:14 <nsh> MINE
01:53:08 <[bjoern]> .leo Kitsch
01:53:10 <phenny> der Kitsch = kitsch, Brummagem, brummagem, hokeyness also: hokiness chiefly (Amer.; Canad.) (sl.), hokum
01:53:11 <phenny> pretentious kitsch = der Edelkitsch
01:53:12 <phenny> schnulziger Kitsch = sob stuff
01:53:13 <phenny> — http://dict.leo.org/ende?search=Kitsch
01:53:32 <nsh> .wik leo.org
01:53:32 <phenny> "LEO (meaning Link Everything Online) is an Internet based electronic dictionary and translation dictionary initiated by the computer science department of the Technische Universität München (Technical University of Munich) in Germany." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leo.org
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01:55:54 <nsh> what's the name of the phenomenon where usage grows in as a result of increased capacity or efficiency such that saturation is always maintained?
01:56:29 <[bjoern]> nshonumdrum.
01:56:52 <nsh> .wik Jevons paradox
01:56:52 <nsh> in economics
01:56:52 <nsh> might have another name in computing though
01:56:53 <phenny> "In economics, the Jevons paradox (sometimes called the Jevons effect) is the proposition that technological progress that increases the efficiency with which a resource is used, tends to increase (rather than decrease) the rate of consumption of that resource." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jevons_paradox
01:56:59 <[bjoern]> (strictly speaking that is the device that causes it)
01:57:10 <nsh> word.
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02:21:29 <MoiraA> hiya nsh, [bjoern]
02:38:15 <nsh> hey M
02:43:20 <MoiraA> there are some very good mathematicians here nsh :/
02:43:39 <nsh> where?
02:43:50 <MoiraA> was wanting some info about linear equations to help someone and was it you [bjoern] ? got the answer in under 10 seconds
02:44:30 <nsh> don't see how that calls for a ":/"
02:44:31 <nsh> :-)
02:45:37 <MoiraA> I feel out of place sometimes :)
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13:45:22 <MorbusIff> did 3 quests. back to work.
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13:53:28 <[bjoern]> http://asset.soup.io/asset/0586/6520_0a2d.jpeg
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14:15:57 <Monty> Speak of the devil, it's kpreid!
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14:20:17 <Monty> hey jetx
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15:53:28 <Monty> it's kpreid!
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16:11:25 <[bjoern]> phenny, tell sbp http://www.sqlite.org/src/login
16:11:25 <phenny> [bjoern]: I'll pass that on when sbp is around.
16:12:00 <sbp> choxelle. the only capcha more cheap than the people trying to break it
16:12:01 <phenny> sbp: 16:11Z <[bjoern]> tell sbp http://www.sqlite.org/src/login
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17:04:10 <sbp> what's the name of the law whereby if you correct a certain kind of mistake you are bound to perpetrate the same kind of mistake yourself in the correction?
17:05:20 <clsn> Damned-if-you-do-damned-if-you-don't, but in Latin?
17:05:53 <clsn> What's Harry Potter's birthdate? July 31, 1980? Or July 30?
17:05:57 <_bjoern> This is dangerous knowledge, I am not sure I should share it.
17:06:00 <sbp> no, I believe it's one of the Name's Law types
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17:06:16 <sbp> July 13 1/2, I presume
17:07:05 <clsn> No, it's the end of July... hrm.
17:07:06 * sbp coaxjoles [bjoern] into sharing it by habitually not typoing his name
17:07:13 <[bjoern]> [[[
17:07:15 <[bjoern]> =>irony
17:07:15 <[bjoern]> inlusio, inlusionis N (3rd) F 3 1 F [DXXCS]
17:07:15 <[bjoern]> irony; mocking, jeering; illusion; deceit;
17:07:15 <[bjoern]> illusio, illusionis N (3rd) F 3 1 F [DXXCS]
17:07:16 <[bjoern]> irony; mocking, jeering; illusion; deceit;
17:07:18 <[bjoern]> ironia, ironiae N (1st) F 1 1 F [XXXEC]
17:07:20 <[bjoern]> irony;
17:07:22 <[bjoern]> ]]]
17:07:43 <sbp> one could also make the case for hypocrisy
17:07:55 <sbp> does any word describe the intersection of hypocrisy and irony?
17:08:25 <sbp> if not, we should bullshit one from the raw materials that language provides us: insanity
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17:09:42 <sbp> as I was looking for the answer, I found:
17:09:44 <sbp> .title http://ase.tufts.edu/cogstud/papers/howmista.htm
17:09:45 <phenny> sbp: How to Make Mistakes
17:09:54 <sbp> but it's by Dennett, so don't bother reading it
17:10:21 <clsn> Bah. Like I need some egghead telling me how to screw up. Why, I bet I'm even better at screwing up than he is!
17:10:37 <sbp> doubt it
17:11:40 <sbp> ah, found it:
17:11:42 <sbp> .wik http://ase.tufts.edu/cogstud/papers/howmista.htm
17:11:43 <phenny> Can't find anything in Wikipedia for "http://ase.tufts.edu/cogstud/papers/howmista.htm".
17:11:44 <sbp> BAD
17:11:49 <clsn> .o answers when is harry potter's birthday
17:11:50 <sbp> .wik Muphry's law
17:11:51 <phenny> "Muphry's Law is an adage that states that 'if you write anything criticizing editing or proofreading, there will be a fault of some kind in what you have written'." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muphry's_law
17:11:52 <phenny> Error performing search.
17:12:13 <clsn> .o answers when was harry potter born?
17:12:13 <phenny> Error performing search.
17:12:20 <clsn> oh bleah.
17:13:10 <clsn> I'm going with 31 July 1980.
17:13:36 <sbp> I wonder what did happen to Ambrose Bierce?
17:14:14 <sbp> Segal's law is hilarious
17:14:18 <clsn> He's probably dead by now.
17:14:19 <sbp> I remember someone spouted that fallacy at me this year
17:14:27 <sbp> clsn: hmm, maybe
17:15:49 <sbp> .gc Harry Potter "30 July 1980"
17:15:49 <phenny> Harry Potter "30 July 1980": 25
17:15:54 <sbp> .gc Harry Potter "July 30 1980"
17:15:54 <phenny> Harry Potter "July 30 1980": 63
17:15:57 <sbp> .gc Harry Potter "31 July 1980"
17:15:58 <phenny> Harry Potter "31 July 1980": 75
17:16:00 <sbp> .gc Harry Potter "July 31 1980"
17:16:01 <phenny> Harry Potter "July 31 1980": 251
17:16:11 <sbp> 31 July seems more likely
17:16:39 <clsn> I quote Segal's Law often; my kids know it well. Tho not by that name
17:17:02 <sbp> I wonder why it's not called Segal's Fallacy though?
17:17:19 <sbp> because obviously you don't know the time for sure if you only have one watch
17:18:08 <clsn> A man with one watch MIGHT know what time it is, I guess.
17:18:18 <clsn> There's such a thing as too LITTLE information too. Or wrong.
17:18:28 <sbp> well, no watch is a standard reference unit
17:18:44 <sbp> the TAI atomic clocks are the only ones which are standard, and they take an average even of those
17:18:55 <sbp> so you'd have to wear all of the TAI atomic clocks
17:19:07 <sbp> but anyway, you could wear one dodgy watch and not know the time
17:19:20 <sbp> or wear, say, two radio controlled watches and be much more certain of the time there
17:19:38 <clsn> There was an awesome website of a guy who did a roadtrip with THREE of his atomic clocks (he collects them) to Pike's Peak to measure relativistic time dilation.
17:19:40 <sbp> the provenance is what matters — how certain you are that the watch was set right, that it's working right, and so on
17:19:45 <sbp> nice
17:20:02 <clsn> It had a REAL atomic watch. Big ol' atomic clock strapped to someone's wrist.
17:20:08 <clsn> I gotta find the link.
17:21:01 <sbp> also, consider this: you have watch A, and it goes slow by 30 seconds. do you then know that it's correct? no because it's gone wrong. now say you have watch A and also watch B, watch B showing the correct time. now at least you know that one watch is inaccurate, even if you don't know which
17:21:40 <clsn> http://leapsecond.com/great2005/tour/
17:22:04 <sbp> see, even the old crappy definition of "know" (justified true belief) fails with the single watch test. you might be justified if you have a really good watch which has never gone wrong before and isn't out by much and you have no other reference around. but it might still be false, in which case you don't know it
17:22:07 <sbp> thanks
17:22:07 <Monty> phenny: .w macosx
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17:22:24 <clsn> I think the correct response to your nitpicking on the difficulty of standards and precision is to clap one's hands over one's ears and yell AAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! in your face.
17:22:26 <sbp> oh, Mt. Rainier
17:22:34 <clsn> yeah, not PIke's Peak, woops.
17:22:40 <sbp> I'm not nitpicking the difficulty of precision
17:22:46 <sbp> I'm saying that Segal's law is a load of balls
17:22:54 <sbp> it's a fallacy, not a law
17:23:09 <clsn> It's also been noted that a watch which does not run at all is better than one which loses a minute every day.
17:23:18 <clsn> The former is correct twice a day, the latter twice a year.
17:23:29 <sbp> :-)
17:24:07 <clsn> Ah, but how do you know when...? Well, keep your eyes on the clock, and at the MOMENT it's right, it's eight o'clock!
17:24:08 <sbp> I'm just saying that "It refers to the evils of too much information in making decisions" is misleading: it's not quantity which matters at all, it's quality. quantity would only matter if, for example, it passed your threshold for dealing with it or something
17:24:11 <clsn> Or something like that.
17:24:38 <sbp> so it's only better if you have a correct timepiece available?
17:25:02 <clsn> I think the point is that with increased quantity comes greater chances of contradiction. More a complaint about diminished quality.
17:25:19 <sbp> see, but the quality doesn't necessarily diminish
17:25:23 <clsn> And after all, used consistently, a single watch, even if wrong, can govern a working schedule.
17:25:26 <sbp> you might have one bad data point, or two good ones
17:25:31 <sbp> which is better then?
17:25:32 <clsn> Yeah, and there's also such a thing as overanalyzing a joke.
17:26:02 <sbp> I'm always suspicious of these kind of jokes
17:26:14 <clsn> That's because they're out to get you.
17:26:20 <sbp> this one, for example, was so unfunny I actually didn't notice until now that it was intended to be one
17:26:22 <clsn> They secretly hang out under your windowsill at night.
17:26:59 <sbp> anyway, SOMEONE ON THE INTERNET IS WRONG and it is my duty to stop them!
17:27:13 <clsn> Atomic wristwatch: http://www.leapsecond.com/pages/atomic-bill/
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17:27:33 <sbp> haha
17:27:36 <sbp> looks painful
17:28:22 <sbp> [bjoern]: Segal's law: joke, fallacy, or law?
17:28:27 <clsn> "I know, I'll just pull three of the cesium clocks from my *collection* and cart them up a mountain."
17:28:46 <clsn> Sheesh, what a loser, *collecting* cesium clocks. Woops, I better go study my Klingon.
17:29:08 <sbp> you know watches have a WR rating?
17:29:14 <sbp> water resistance
17:29:24 <sbp> I suppose a cesium clock would rank pretty low, eh?
17:29:36 <sbp> WR: None, Explosive
17:29:53 <clsn> I guess.
17:30:09 <clsn> Tho I dunno, there isn't THAT much cesium in one. Would be cool if there was though.\
17:30:35 <sbp> doesn't take much. though maybe by little you mean like micrograms or something
17:30:35 <Monty> %26
17:30:53 <clsn> Yeah, it probably is. Though I totally don't know.
17:31:08 <sbp> I want to find out but I'm too lazy to ask the web
17:31:20 <sbp> maybe if we moan about it long enough some kind individual will look it up for us
17:31:27 <sbp> Monty: go look this factoid up
17:31:27 <Monty> Does talking about this bother you ?
17:31:34 <sbp> Monty: no, but searching for it does
17:31:38 <Monty> once ive not my number) yet, will go try both and much more in futon?
17:31:52 <sbp> sigh
17:31:59 <sbp> .g how much caesium in an atomic clock
17:32:00 <phenny> sbp: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atomic_clock
17:32:55 <sbp> doesn't say, but NIST have developed a chip sized one
17:33:02 <sbp> so that probably points at "very small" as an answer
17:33:07 <sbp> .wik Op amp
17:33:07 <phenny> "An operational amplifier, which is often called an op-amp, is a DC-coupled high-gain electronic voltage amplifier with differential inputs and, usually, a single output." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Op_amp
17:34:00 <clsn> cool, his license plate is 9192MHZ (the resonance frequency of Cs)
17:36:23 <sbp> .wa is 1337 a prime
17:36:27 <sbp> .o wa is 1337 a prime
17:36:32 <phenny> PrimeQ[1337];False;1327 -> 1361
17:37:34 <kpreid> clsn: that site: ahahaha
17:37:54 <kpreid> particularly http://www.leapsecond.com/pages/atomic-tom/climb-5071a-9.jpg
17:38:21 <clsn> 1337 is divisible by 7.
17:38:38 <clsn> Yeah, a less than successful attempt... :)
17:38:49 <kpreid> .c 1337/78
17:38:50 <phenny> 1337 / 78 = 17.1410256
17:38:51 <kpreid> er
17:38:52 <sbp> .o wa factors of 1337
17:38:54 <kpreid> .c 1337/7
17:38:54 <phenny> 1337 / 7 = 191
17:38:57 <phenny> factor->1337;7x191(2 distinct factors);1 -> 7 -> 191 -> 1337
17:39:13 <kpreid> what is 9 in leet?
17:39:17 <[bjoern]> sbp: no.
17:39:20 <clsn> .o wa factors of yo mama.
17:39:24 <phenny> Couldn't grab results from json stringified precioussss.
17:39:38 <clsn> lol... precioussss... wasn't expecting that.
17:39:48 <sbp> kpreid: g
17:39:59 <kpreid> "Igi"
17:40:00 <clsn> .o wa factors of 7!
17:40:06 <phenny> factor->7!;2^4x3^2x5x7(8 factors, 4 distinct);1 -> 2 -> 3 -> 4 -> 5 -> 6 -> 7 -> 8 -> 9 -> 10 -> 12 -> 14 -> 15 -> 16 -> 18 -> 20 -> 21 -> 24 -> 28 -> 30 -> 35 -> 36 -> 40 -> 42 -> 45 -> 48 -> 56 -> 60 -> 63 -> 70 -> 72 -> 80 -> 84 -> 90 -> 105 -> 112 -> 120 -> 126 -> 140 -> 144 -> 168 -> 180 -> 210 -> 240 -> 252 -> 280 -> 315 -> 336 -> 360 -> 420
17:40:09 <kpreid> "Ihi" is prime leet.
17:40:13 <kpreid> g
17:40:23 <[bjoern]> .o wa factors of Googol
17:40:25 <phenny> factor->10000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000;2^100x5^100(200 factors, 2 distinct)
17:40:26 <sbp> .o wa factors of 100!
17:40:27 <phenny> Couldn't grab results from json stringified precioussss.
17:40:34 <[bjoern]> I win.
17:40:41 <kpreid> OK, 'scuse me while I minimize this highly distracting window...
17:40:58 <sbp> your prize are fake elephant gonads made out of soy
17:41:19 <clsn> mmm, soy.
17:41:24 <sbp> fake gonads: phonads?
17:42:01 <[bjoern]> .o wa sin Googol
17:42:03 <phenny> sin(10000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000deg );-cos(pi/18);-0.984807753012208059366743024589523013670643251719842418790...;root of 64 x^6-96 x^4+36 x^2-3 near x = -0.984808;-1/2 e^(-(i pi)/18)-1/2 e^((i pi)/18);1/2 (-1)^(17/18) ((-1)^(1/18)-i) ((-1)^(1/18)+i);- [0; 1, 64, 1, 4, 1, 1
17:42:30 <clsn> .o wa sin Googol radians
17:42:31 <phenny> sin(10000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000deg ) radians;-0.9848 radians;-984.8 mrad (milliradians);-56.43deg (degrees);-56 degrees 25 arc minutes 31.18 arc seconds;-3^h 45^m 42.08^s (right ascension);-0.1567 rev (revolutions);plane angle;[angle]
17:42:35 <sbp> .o wa -cos(pi/18)
17:42:39 <phenny> -cos(pi/18);-0.984807753012208059366743024589523013670643251719842418790...;root of 64 x^6-96 x^4+36 x^2-3 near x = -0.984808;-1/2 e^(-(i pi)/18)-1/2 e^((i pi)/18);1/2 (-1)^(17/18) ((-1)^(1/18)-i) ((-1)^(1/18)+i);- [0; 1, 64, 1, 4, 1, 1, 1, 6, 1, 1, 6, 10, 1, 1, 3, 1, 1, 2, 6, 1, 2, 14, 1, 8, 1, 8, ...];-cos(pi/18) = -cosh((i pi)/18);-cos(pi/18)
17:42:49 <clsn> bah. only takes it as degrees.
17:42:59 <sbp> .o wa 75.8 degrees in right ascension
17:43:03 <phenny> Couldn't grab results from json stringified precioussss.
17:43:10 <sbp> .o wa 75.8 degrees in hours
17:43:12 <phenny> convert 75.8deg (degrees) to hours of right ascension;5.053^h (hours of right ascension);5^h 3^m 10^s (right ascension);1.323 radians;0.2106 rev (revolutions);plane angle;[angle];Distance d along the Earth\'s equator from d = Rtheta:, ->5243 miles, ->8438 km (kilometers);Distance d around the Earth at 45deg latitude from d = R cos 45deg t
17:43:27 <sbp> wow, wa might actually be useful for something!
17:43:41 <sbp> that's the first potentially useful function I've found in it
17:43:57 <[bjoern]> .c 75.8 degrees in hours
17:43:58 <phenny> [bjoern]: Sorry, no result.
17:44:27 <sbp> and now for the real test:
17:44:36 <sbp> .o wa 5^h 3^m 10^s in degrees
17:44:39 <phenny> convert 2^s 3^m 5^(h+s) to degrees
17:44:44 <sbp> what
17:44:50 <[bjoern]> DO IT
17:45:02 <sbp> phenny: er, er... 53.8 degrees
17:45:31 <sbp> she's gone quiet
17:45:50 <[bjoern]> She found your lack of conversion disturbing.
17:45:54 <clsn> Are you using ^ to link dimensions to measurements? Does it know to handle that?
17:46:04 <sbp> clsn: that's what it gave in its output
17:46:11 <clsn> Ah, right.
17:46:23 <sbp> .o wa 5h 3m 10s in degrees
17:46:26 <phenny> convert 5 hours 3 minutes 10 seconds to degrees
17:46:32 <sbp> .o wa 5 hours 3 minutes 10 seconds in degrees
17:46:34 <phenny> convert 5 hours 3 minutes 10 seconds to degrees
17:46:47 <sbp> 75.8 degrees, I already know!
17:46:51 <sbp> I want to see if YOU know that
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17:47:22 <sbp> phenny: ask nsh to debug ".o wa 5h 3m 10s in degrees"
17:47:23 <phenny> sbp: I'll pass that on when nsh is around.
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17:47:52 <[bjoern]> .o wa 5 hours 3 minutes of arc 10 seconds in degrees
17:47:55 <phenny> convert 5 hoursx3 arc minutes 10 arc seconds to degrees;0.2639deg hr (hour degrees);(no standard named quantities);[time] [angle]
17:48:23 <sbp> .o wa 5 hours 3 minutes 10 seconds of arc in degrees
17:48:25 <phenny> convert 5 hours 3 minutesx10" (arc seconds) to degrees;0.8417deg min (minute degrees);(no standard named quantities);[time] [angle]
17:48:45 <sbp> .o wa 5.053 hours of arc in degrees
17:48:49 <phenny> Couldn't grab results from json stringified precioussss.
17:49:01 <sbp> sheEesh
17:49:03 <[bjoern]> Might want to use the web interface, it will give more advise on what's wrong with thy queries.
17:49:16 <sbp> no way, then it'll think that I love it
17:50:07 <sbp> and my intellectual cherry will be forever hotly pursued by the masochistic popping taint of Wolfram Corp. and associates
17:50:20 <[bjoern]> Yeah, and then you do something that indicates the opposite, and then you have it konfuused to your leisure.
17:50:54 <sbp> hmm, I'm warming to the plan
17:51:06 <sbp> despite my best efforts to find a way out
17:51:22 <sbp> .g wolfram. alpha. now
17:51:23 <phenny> sbp: http://technologizer.com/2009/11/11/5words-wolframalpha-now-on-bing/
17:51:29 <sbp> .g wolfram. alpha
17:51:30 <phenny> sbp: http://www.wolframalpha.com/
17:51:55 <sbp> all it says is "Wolfram|Alpha isn't sure how to compute an answer from your input"
17:52:06 <sbp> so now I'm going to feed that back in as input
17:52:29 <sbp> [[[
17:52:31 <sbp> Input interpretation:
17:52:31 <sbp> Response:
17:52:33 <sbp> ]]]
17:52:36 <sbp> okay, it doesn't copy so well
17:52:42 <sbp> but it said:
17:52:44 <sbp> Response:
17:52:49 <sbp> Actually, in this case, we are.
17:53:00 <sbp> (To wit, we shall echo it back to you with this helpful descriptive comment.)
17:53:32 <sbp> so now I shall feed it "Actually, in this case, we are."
17:53:35 <[bjoern]> You could try http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=do+you+think+i+love+you%3F
17:53:44 <sbp> and so on until either I get bored or they do
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17:54:40 <sbp> http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=If+I+asked+you+if+you+wanted+to+sleep+with+me%2C+would+you+answer+be+the+same+as+the+answer+to+this+question%3F
17:54:50 <sbp> *your
17:54:55 <[bjoern]> Hmm the category "Internet culture" contains "Extreme pornography"
17:54:57 <[bjoern]> .wik Extreme pornography
17:54:57 <phenny> "'Extreme pornography' is a term introduced by the UK Government in Part 5, Section 63 of the Criminal Justice and Immigration Act 2008,[1]| which made possession of such images a criminal offence from 26 January 2009." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Extreme_pornography
17:55:23 <sbp> yeah, there's Mainstreme pornography and Extreme pornography
17:55:36 <[bjoern]> I was thinking earlier about fun things to do with wikipedia category data
17:55:49 <[bjoern]> besides the obvious treemapping and stuff
17:57:16 <[bjoern]> With my old Rechenmaschine almost dead and my shiny new 1 TB drive there are things I can do that were umbossiple before.
17:57:38 <[bjoern]> "a person performing or appearing to perform an act of intercourse or oral sex with an animal (whether dead or alive)"
17:58:12 <sbp> I wonder if a coca cola machine counts
17:58:40 <[bjoern]> Money it does probably.
17:59:17 <sbp> .wik Non-Extreme pornography
17:59:18 <phenny> "Pornography or porn is the depiction of explicit sexual subject matter for the purposes of sexual excitement." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pornography
17:59:32 <sbp> I wonder what the least extreme pornography is
17:59:51 <sbp> pornography that even her majesty could condone
18:00:06 <[bjoern]> .wik Softcore
18:00:07 <phenny> "Softcore pornography is a form of filmic or photographic pornography or erotica that is less sexually explicit than hardcore pornography." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Softcore
18:00:09 <[bjoern]> lacks ratings
18:00:17 <sbp> is there a Softestcore?
18:00:59 <[bjoern]> .g super-soft-core
18:00:59 <sbp> .leo säft
18:01:00 <phenny> [bjoern]: http://www.springerlink.com/index/0H11X7R12694U170.pdf
18:01:02 <phenny> — http://dict.leo.org/ende?search=s%C3%A4ft
18:01:09 <[bjoern]> .leo Säfte
18:01:10 <phenny> der Saft - Pl. die Säfte = juice
18:01:11 <phenny> — http://dict.leo.org/ende?search=S%C3%A4fte
18:01:12 <sbp> you got a PDF, I got nothing
18:01:16 <sbp> I prefer my results
18:01:30 <[bjoern]> A Springerlink is usually less than nothing.
18:01:42 <sbp> wonder why I thought säft was la Deutchenification of soft?
18:02:37 <sbp> .leo clumsy
18:02:38 <phenny> clumsy a. = klobig, patschert (Österr.), plump, schwerfällig, tollpatschig - alte Schreibung tolpatschig
18:02:39 <[bjoern]> What I will do when I am done re-installing all my software is make a list "Wikipedia articles that exist in many other language versions but not in the german one"
18:02:39 <phenny> clumsy clot = der Trampel
18:02:40 <phenny> clumsy fellow = der Tollpatsch - alte Schreibung: Tolpatsch
18:02:41 <phenny> — http://dict.leo.org/ende?search=clumsy
18:02:47 <[bjoern]> .ety soft
18:02:47 <phenny> "O.E. softe 'gentle, easy, comfortable,' from W.Gmc. *samfti, from P.Gmc. *samftijaz 'level, even, smooth, gentle, soft' (cf. O.S. safti, O.H.G. semfti, Ger. sanft, M.Du. sachte, Du. zacht), from base *som- 'fitting, agreeable.' Sense of 'causing little hardship or [...]" - http://etymonline.com/?term=soft
18:02:50 <[bjoern]> .leo weich
18:02:51 <phenny> weich = creamy a., flexible a., mellow a., mild a., pillowy a.
18:02:51 <phenny> weich - Stimme, Ton (fig.) = smooth a.
18:02:52 <sbp> good idea
18:02:52 <phenny> weich (Rheologie) = supple a. (phys.)
18:02:53 <phenny> — http://dict.leo.org/ende?search=weich
18:02:56 <[bjoern]> .leo soft
18:02:58 <phenny> soft a. = elastisch, flau, matschig, matt - Licht, nachgebend
18:02:58 <phenny> soft a. (tech.) = nachgiebig
18:02:59 <phenny> soft-anneal = das Weichglühen
18:03:00 <phenny> — http://dict.leo.org/ende?search=soft
18:03:02 <[bjoern]> BOTSPAM
18:03:04 <sbp> flau is good
18:03:09 <[bjoern]> .leo mau
18:03:10 <phenny> — http://dict.leo.org/ende?search=mau
18:03:13 <[bjoern]> WHAT
18:03:17 <[bjoern]> MOVE ZIG
18:03:23 <sbp> flauhintern
18:04:02 <[bjoern]> .leo lau
18:04:03 <phenny> lau - Unterstützung = lukewarm - support a.
18:04:04 <phenny> lau = tepid a., tepidly adv., halfheartedAE, half-heartedBE a.
18:04:05 <phenny> für lau (ugs.) = for free
18:04:06 <phenny> — http://dict.leo.org/ende?search=lau
18:04:31 <sbp> laudarmausgang
18:05:52 <[bjoern]> let's see, we have bau, hau, kau, lau, mau, rau, sau, tau
18:06:05 <sbp> ooh, ooh, we have tau!
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18:06:16 <[bjoern]> .leo tau
18:06:17 <phenny> tau - Greek letter = das Tau
18:06:18 <phenny> dew = der Tau
18:06:19 <phenny> hawser (naut.) = das Tau
18:06:20 <phenny> — http://dict.leo.org/ende?search=tau
18:06:20 <sbp> and France has Pau
18:06:28 <sbp> archels: archels
18:07:18 <sbp> FIRE MADE IT GOOD
18:07:21 <[bjoern]> W _ H _ A _ T _ I _ S _ T _ H _ Y _ B _ I _ D _ D _ I _ N _ G _ ?
18:07:35 <[bjoern]> (not hangman.)
18:08:26 <sbp> wat is uw bod?
18:08:41 <[bjoern]> I am hungry, thank you.
18:08:53 <sbp> I'm just about to eat chronic foods
18:09:06 <sbp> some of which is seafood!
18:09:41 <[bjoern]> I am ... oh I should be about to be going
18:09:50 <[bjoern]> food retrieval mission
18:10:25 <sbp> get thou ready to depart in such a manner as which your mission shall not be made unsuccessful, then go forth and prosper in thy ways of prandial nourishment acquisition
18:10:39 <[bjoern]> oh i wish
18:11:01 <sbp> I'm just surprised you're yet to eat your bike
18:11:15 <sbp> shimano make some really tasty stuff
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18:27:39 <[bjoern]> "Fictional amputees | Fictional aviators | Fictional characters with superhuman strength | Fictional cyborgs | Fictional henchmen | Fictional mass murderers | Fictional sword fighters" ~ Categories of you-know-who
18:29:25 <sbp> Tony Blair?
18:29:48 <[bjoern]> He can fly?
18:30:02 <sbp> no, but he can aviate
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18:37:48 <_bjoern> it was Vader btw
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18:53:06 <archels> hi sbp
18:53:28 <archels> This Jonthan Meades fellow is absolutely marvellous to watch.
18:53:32 <sbp> .wik Thinkbox
18:53:32 <phenny> "Thinkbox is the marketing body for the main UK commercial TV broadcasters - Channel 4, Five, GMTV, ITV, Sky Media, Turner Media Innovations and Viacom Brand Solutions." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thinkbox
18:53:43 <sbp> archels: yeah
18:54:04 <archels> Don't suppose you have a better source than the VHS-quality stuff on YouTube?
18:54:19 <sbp> unfortunately not. I tended to see the shows on television when they came out
18:54:46 <archels> ah, alright
18:54:57 <sbp> in a way you should be glad that they're on youtube at least... :-)
18:55:12 <archels> Very much indeed.
18:55:37 <sbp> funny how video warezing has gone up a notch in the past five years, and music warezing down several notches
18:56:35 <archels> Has music warezing gone down?
18:57:53 <archels> Relative to film, likely. But on its own?
18:57:54 <sbp> the quality has. consider Audiogalaxy for example
18:58:04 <archels> Mmm, Napster.
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18:58:56 <archels> This new, decentralized version of torrents promise to make it all better, though.
18:59:02 <sbp> well people get teary eyed about Napster but I think it's just nostalgia — I don't actually recall Napster being any better than the later Gnutella networks (before those were shut down recently). but Audiogalaxy was on another planet
18:59:12 <sbp> oh?
19:00:07 <archels> Yeah, it's been around for a while, but what with the continuous PirateBay fiasco, they're pushing the technology a bit.
19:00:30 <sbp> how does it work?
19:00:47 <archels> I don't know the specifics of it, but it's basically like torrents only without the (central) tracker.
19:01:22 <sbp> ah. good
19:03:09 <jsled> .wik distributed hash table
19:03:09 <phenny> "Distributed hash tables (DHTs) are a class of decentralized distributed systems that provide a lookup service similar to a hash table: (key, value) pairs are stored in the DHT, and any participating node can efficiently retrieve the value associated with a given key." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Distributed_hash_table
19:03:19 <archels> ^
19:03:44 <sbp> .title http://robert.accettura.com/blog/2009/01/17/bittorrent-for-http-failover/
19:03:46 <phenny> sbp: BitTorrent For HTTP Failover | Robert Accettura's Fun With Wordage
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19:15:41 <Monty> it's JibberJim!
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19:26:27 <deltab> sbp: you do have a better source
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19:30:10 <sbp> deltab: lay it down to me man, disclose that thing at me
19:31:14 <sbp> wow, I hadn't read about this till now: "Mr Berlusconi, 73, suffered a broken nose, two broken teeth and a cut lip after being hit with a model of Milan cathedral after a rally in the city."
19:31:26 <sbp> assaulted with a model of Milan cathedral?
19:31:42 <deltab> the souvenir kind
19:32:43 <sbp> small but dense
19:33:22 <deltab> yup
19:33:30 <deltab> metal
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19:40:51 <sbp> Nouvelle Vague are a weird band
19:41:00 <sbp> occasional spikes of brilliance amongst a sea of trash
19:42:08 <sbp> goes with the territory of what they're trying to achieve though, perhaps
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19:51:53 <Monty> howdy, dmiles_afk
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20:11:34 <sbp> sheesh, why am I only learning about the latest Decemberists album now?
20:11:45 <sbp> awesome idea despite it apparently being complete bollocks
20:22:42 <sbp> .g "deserved and withering contempt"
20:22:43 <phenny> sbp: http://community.pearljam.com/viewtopic.php?f=13&t=119910
20:23:19 <sbp> [[[
20:23:19 <sbp> One of Tony Blair's most senior civil servants has launched a savage attack on the former Prime Minister over the Iraq war.
20:23:20 <sbp> Sir Ken Macdonald, who was director of public prosecutions for much of Mr Blair's premiership, accused him of "sycophancy" towards Washington and using "alarming subterfuge" to mislead the British people into the conflict.
20:23:28 <sbp> ]]] — http://www.sundaysun.co.uk/news/uk-world-news/2009/12/14/macdonald-blasts-sycophant-blair-84229-25385047/
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20:29:30 <_bjoern> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Alexbot is the page that occurs on the most language versions but not the german version
20:30:40 <_bjoern> Category:Stubs the first non-userspace one
20:30:56 <_bjoern> (Wir haben Stubs verboten)
20:31:22 <_bjoern> okay I see I need a script that resolves the pageids automagically for me
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20:45:58 <sbp> what's the highest regular (article) space one?
20:46:29 <[bjoern]> I have not scripted yet, but it might just be "Apple".
20:46:44 <[bjoern]> That's the one i got sampling anyway
20:46:54 <sbp> how strange
20:47:26 <[bjoern]> Well there is de:Kulturapfel which backlinks to en:Apple, why en:Apple does not link to de:Kulturapfel I do not know.
20:48:49 <sbp> hmm, yeah
20:49:19 <[bjoern]> Also high up is ".de"
20:49:59 <[bjoern]> We do have a page for .de, but it's a redirect to the company that manages .de.
20:51:43 <sbp> more rumours that Schumacher is joining Rosberg
20:51:50 <sbp> Rosberg says at the moment he is driving both cars
20:52:46 <[bjoern]> http://en.wikipedia.org/w/api.php?action=query&prop=info&pageids=13176497|21034376|8913458|999207|999766|1019932|697060|817212|999223|999367|999379|999480|999772|4057320|693730|999182|999237|999454|286930|605541|999197|1113854|694269|694532|999192|717213|693016|8465985|72028|7950|710443|726079|7822321|6338879|69058|696603|697671|694332|759979|18978754|693421|696064|21163761|5277509|2009362|11036626|23953861|3626947|13625169 is the
20:53:24 <[bjoern]> oh actually they mess up the ordering, oh well...
20:55:29 <[bjoern]> No idea what the point of the interwiki links on http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_creation/2006-08-12 is
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21:30:08 <sbp> .gc "you are like a trifle"
21:30:09 <phenny> "you are like a trifle": 1
21:32:28 <clsn> .title http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/8408233.stm
21:32:29 <phenny> clsn: BBC News - Octopus snatches coconut and runs
21:35:43 <sbp> [bjoern]: bzw.?
21:36:23 <clsn> sbp: check out link. Iz cool. Wikipedia says that octopodes are "honorary vertebrates" in the UK. Can you confirm? And tell us wtf that's supposed to mean?
21:38:55 <sbp> I suspect this refers to a taxonomical abberation
21:39:06 <sbp> since I am not a biologist I can neither confirm nor deny this suspicion
21:41:01 <sbp> I need to hire some actresses. are they expensive? anybody know?
21:41:32 <clsn> I dunno. Probably cheaper than building your own.
21:41:38 <sbp> yeah...
21:42:13 <JibberJim> probably depends what you need them to do...
21:42:39 <sbp> just one scene, very short
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21:51:41 <archels> esp promotional?
21:53:04 <sbp> nope
21:53:15 <sbp> I'm sure tav can find all the people he'll need for that
21:53:53 <[bjoern]> beziehungsweise?
21:54:00 <sbp> .leo beziehungsweise
21:54:02 <phenny> beziehungsweise = alternatively adv., and accordingly
21:54:03 <[bjoern]> .leo bzw.
21:54:03 <phenny> beziehungsweise (Abk.: bzw.) = and ... respectively, as the case may be, respectively adv.
21:54:04 <phenny> beziehungsweise (Abk.: bzw.) Konj. - genauer gesagt = or rather
21:54:05 <phenny> — http://dict.leo.org/ende?search=beziehungsweise
21:54:06 <phenny> beziehungsweise (Abk.: bzw.) = and ... respectively, as the case may be, respectively adv.
21:54:07 <phenny> beziehungsweise (Abk.: bzw.) Konj. - genauer gesagt = or rather
21:54:08 <phenny> — http://dict.leo.org/ende?search=bzw.
21:54:15 <[bjoern]> well done.
21:54:15 <sbp> ja, das ist gutlich, danken zie
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21:57:06 <BigJibby> .leo esp
21:57:08 <phenny> perch - pl. perches, esp. collectively: perch (zool.) = der Flussbarsch wiss.: Perca fluviatilis (Ichthyologie)
21:57:09 <phenny> zebra - pl. zebras, esp. collectively: zebra (zool.) = das Zebra
21:57:10 <phenny> extrasensory perception (abbr.: ESP) = außersinnliche Wahrnehmung, übersinnliche Wahrnehmung
21:57:11 <phenny> — http://dict.leo.org/ende?search=esp
21:57:45 * BigJibby notes to stay away from esp zebras
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22:38:58 <Monty> hi panni_, how ya doing?
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