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00:55:50 <[bjoern]> .gc hardon chemical element
00:55:50 <phenny> hardon chemical element: 5,960
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01:29:41 <Monty> hi lisppaste2
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02:02:32 <zjblabs> $ print "hello world"
02:02:34 <zjblabs_> hello world
02:02:34 <zjblabs_> n
02:03:10 <zjblabs> $ locals()
02:03:10 <zjblabs_> {'msg': '$ locals()', 'self': <__main__.ZBot instance at 0x00FCE8F0>, 'user': 'zjblabs!n=Administ@static.207-5-115-85.microlnk.com', 'channel': '#swhack'}
02:03:30 <zjblabs> $ globals()
02:03:31 <zjblabs_> {'protocol': <module 'twisted.internet.protocol' from 'C:\Python26\lib\site-packages\twisted\internet\protocol.pyc'>, 'reactor': <twisted.internet.selectreactor.SelectReactor object at 0x00F981B0>, '__builtins__': <module '__builtin__' (built-in)>, 'RedirectText': <class '__main__.RedirectText'>, '__file__': 'D:\\workspace\\Chat Bots\\src\\zjblabsbot.py', '__package__': None, 'sys': <module 'sys' (built-in)>, 'ZBot': <class __main__.ZBo
02:04:40 <zjblabs> $ [x for x in range(10) if x%2==0]
02:04:40 <zjblabs_> [0, 2, 4, 6, 8]
02:04:54 <zjblabs> $ [x for x in range(13) if x%3==0]
02:04:54 <zjblabs_> [0, 3, 6, 9, 12]
02:05:36 <zjblabs> $ [x for x in range(13) if x%4==0]
02:05:37 <zjblabs_> [0, 4, 8, 12]
02:05:40 <zjblabs> $ [x for x in range(13) if x%5==0]
02:05:40 <zjblabs_> [0, 5, 10]
02:06:26 <zjblabs> $ [x for x in __import__("random").randint() if x%5==0]
02:06:27 <zjblabs_> Traceback (most recent call last):n File "C:\Python26\lib\site-packages\twisted\internet\tcp.py", line 460, in doReadn return self.protocol.dataReceived(data)n File "C:\Python26\lib\site-packages\twisted\words\protocols\irc.py", line 2198, in dataReceivedn basic.LineReceiver.dataReceived(self, data.replace('\r', ''))n File "C:\Python26\lib\site-packages\twisted\protocols\basic.py", line 238, in dataReceivedn why = self
02:09:08 <zjblabs> $ [x for x in __import__("random").randint(1,10) if x>10]
02:09:08 <zjblabs_> Traceback (most recent call last):n File "C:\Python26\lib\site-packages\twisted\internet\tcp.py", line 460, in doReadn return self.protocol.dataReceived(data)n File "C:\Python26\lib\site-packages\twisted\words\protocols\irc.py", line 2198, in dataReceivedn basic.LineReceiver.dataReceived(self, data.replace('\r', ''))n File "C:\Python26\lib\site-packages\twisted\protocols\basic.py", line 238, in dataReceivedn why = self
02:20:23 <Monty> ChanServ and [bjoern] sitting in a tree...
02:21:30 <clsn> You sure you want to do that? Maybe we should cower in fear of his l33t hacking skillz, lest he come back and smite us.
02:21:54 <[bjoern]> You assume I thought about it.
02:23:03 <clsn> Oh no, you didn't even give it proper thought? Oh, we are doomed...
02:23:48 <MoiraA> took me a while to see it really was spam
02:23:59 <MoiraA> this channel often looks like that
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02:53:09 <Monty> welcome, MoiraA_
02:53:43 <MoiraA_> thank you Monty
02:53:45 <Monty> yeah - to hunt down ;-) but reads split
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03:05:38 <[[sroracle]]> hey Monty
03:05:38 <Monty> SEE!
03:05:47 <[[sroracle]]> See what Monty
03:05:48 <Monty> couch_icu_driver.so:
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05:18:08 <Monty> hi BigJibby
05:18:08 <Monty> yo Tene!
05:18:08 <Monty> hey l7
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05:33:23 <jsled> .u 。
05:33:24 <phenny> U+3002 IDEOGRAPHIC FULL STOP (。)
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06:04:06 <Monty> Speak of the devil, it's dumnut!
06:04:06 <Monty> Thank goodness, loggy is back!
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10:40:50 <sbp> yo
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10:55:11 <Monty> yo cre8radix!
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12:10:57 <[bjoern]> Twitter without JavaScript turned on is stylish.
12:11:33 <[bjoern]> light blue page with a <h2>You cannot use the Twitter website without having JavaScript enabled on your web browser. Please re-enable JavaScript and refresh this page.</h2>
12:11:40 <[bjoern]> as only content
12:19:03 <sbp> putting the fun in funkeh
12:22:09 <[bjoern]> .leo Funken
12:22:10 <phenny> der Funken = spark
12:22:10 <[bjoern]> .leo funkeln
12:22:12 <phenny> to broadcast (telecom.) | broadcast/broadcasted, broadcast/broadcasted | = funken | funkte, gefunkt |
12:22:13 <phenny> to radio (tech.) = funken | funkte, gefunkt |
12:22:13 <phenny> — http://dict.leo.org/ende?search=Funken
12:22:14 <phenny> coruscation = das Funkeln
12:22:15 <phenny> resplendence = das Funkeln
12:22:16 <phenny> scintillation = das Funkeln
12:22:16 <phenny> — http://dict.leo.org/ende?search=funkeln
12:22:35 <[bjoern]> You have some pretty complicated words there
12:22:52 <[bjoern]> I wonder if the americans put them there for children's spelling contests.
12:25:02 <sbp> ooh, pretty words
12:25:32 <sbp> I'm trying to make a stylesheet that works like WorldWideWeb.app
12:26:48 <sbp> so far I came up with:
12:26:50 <sbp> html { font: 13px Arial }
12:26:50 <sbp> body { margin: 3px 3px 3px 93px; max-width: 420px }
12:26:50 <sbp> h2 { font-size: 15px; margin-left: -90px; margin-bottom: 20px; margin-top 15px }
12:26:50 <sbp> dt { float: left; width: 25% }
12:26:50 <sbp> dd { padding-left: 25%; padding-bottom: 15px }
12:27:12 <sbp> it's not exactly perfect, but it seems to give the gist
12:27:35 <[bjoern]> No you didn't, you stole them from your imagination.
12:28:27 <sbp> it's not stealing! it's more like an act of love indiscretion
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12:47:47 <sbp> wow, I got LineMode working
12:48:15 <[bjoern]> More aptly, it got you working.
12:50:11 <sbp> it doesn't appear to do HTTP very well
12:50:15 <sbp> but it does work on a local file
12:53:18 <sbp> I'm surprised it only took a few lines of patches
12:58:10 <sbp> .title http://paste.lisp.org/display/92199
12:58:11 <phenny> sbp: Paste number 92199: LineMode 0.11a patch
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14:31:40 <[bjoern]> .leo upcoming
14:31:41 <phenny> upcoming a. = anstehend, aufkommend, aufstrebend, bevorstehend, kommend
14:31:42 <phenny> upcoming vessel (naut.) = der Gegenkommer
14:31:43 <phenny> — http://dict.leo.org/ende?search=upcoming
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14:36:13 <Monty> hi monkinetic, how ya doing?
14:44:01 <[bjoern]> haha http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diskussion:Wattwanderung
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15:09:34 <Monty> hi _ulises
15:09:34 <Monty> hi l7
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15:09:40 <Monty> But what does JibberJim have to do with the price of fish?
15:23:07 <sbp> /topic Barefoot on the Wad
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15:27:14 <[bjoern]> Great related books section on the left there http://books.google.com/books?id=I843AAAAMAAJ
15:28:10 <sbp> pretty template cover
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15:46:51 <Monty> welcome, remote
15:46:51 <Monty> hi BigJibby
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15:49:09 <remote> thank you Monty, you are a sweet little girl :)
15:49:10 <Monty> continuous
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16:25:03 <Monty> lo jsled
16:25:22 <jsled> HI MONTYKINS
16:25:23 <Monty> Heilige Kuh! Kalt!
16:26:33 <sbp> Monty is uttering unutterable things at you
16:26:45 <Monty> yeah man, double pun points between say, with curl and unprofessional, do though ? just wanted an on-line digitised archive of it without group=true ? It would have documents are new node in as only do I literally only got feedback :-)
16:30:15 <[bjoern]> I agree with Monty's second to last line.
16:30:15 <Monty> chuckle
16:30:43 <[bjoern]> .leo vorletzte
16:30:46 <phenny> vorletzter | vorletzte | vorletztes = penultimate a., last but one chiefly, next to last
16:30:46 <phenny> vorletzte Woche = the week before last
16:30:47 <phenny> the last but one chiefly = der Vorletzte
16:30:48 <phenny> — http://dict.leo.org/ende?search=vorletzte
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16:58:09 <Monty> lo dumnut
16:58:09 <Monty> Thank goodness, l7 is back!
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17:15:50 <Monty> Thank goodness, dumnut is back!
17:16:14 <remote> Monty: i'm back too :)
17:16:15 <Monty> still, most odd
17:16:24 <remote> says Monty
17:16:25 <Monty> (couchdb-lucene)
17:16:44 <remote> Monty: can I have the last word please?
17:16:45 <Monty> You'd have you working.
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17:34:03 <Monty> howdy, kpreid
17:35:52 <sbp> .w circumvallate
17:35:53 <phenny> circumvallate — verb: 1. to surround with a rampart
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17:46:28 <MacTed> .ety droid
17:46:29 <phenny> Can't find the etymology for "droid". Try http://etymonline.com/?search=droid
17:46:32 <MacTed> .ety nexus
17:46:33 <phenny> "1663, 'bond, link, means of communication,' from L. nexus, pp. of nectere 'to bind,' from PIE base *ned- 'to bind, tie' (see net (n.))." - http://etymonline.com/?term=nexus
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18:07:39 <clsn> .ety nectar
18:07:39 <phenny> "1555, from L. nectar 'drink of the gods,' from Gk. nektar, which is said to be a compound of nek- 'death' (see necro-) + -tar 'overcoming.' Meaning 'sweet liquid in flowers' first recorded 1609." - http://etymonline.com/?term=nectar
18:07:55 <clsn> .ety ambrosia
18:07:56 <phenny> "1550s, 'favored food or drink of the gods,' from L. ambrosia, from Gk. fem. of ambrosios, lit. 'of the immortals,' from a- 'not' + mbrotos, related to mortos 'mortal.' Applied to certain herbs by Pliny and Dioscorides; used of various foods for mortals since 1685 [...]" - http://etymonline.com/?term=ambrosia
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18:49:22 <sbp> .title http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2009/dec/07/rupert-murdoch-visits-london-newsagents
18:49:28 <phenny> sbp: Rupert Murdoch visit leaves newsagent nonplussed | Media | guardian.co.uk
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18:54:55 <sbp> whoever asked about this:
18:54:56 <sbp> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2009_Norwegian_spiral_anomaly
18:55:05 <sbp> it seems the Russians have confirmed it was their missile now
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18:58:45 <clsn> .title http://www.nytimes.com/2009/12/16/world/europe/16britain.html?_r=1
18:59:10 <phenny> Can't connect to http://www.nytimes.com/2009/12/16/world/europe/16britain.html?_r=1
18:59:52 <clsn> .title http://www.nytimes.com/2009/12/16/world/europe/16britain.html?_r=1
19:00:13 <phenny> Can't connect to http://www.nytimes.com/2009/12/16/world/europe/16britain.html?_r=1
19:00:32 <sbp> Britain was planning to arrest Livni?
19:00:35 <clsn> feh. oright; it's probably a sign-in or something.
19:00:58 <clsn> Apparently Britain has this fun law that lets judges issue arrest warrants for anyone whenever they feel like it.
19:01:29 <clsn> Naturally, since Israel is far and away the most egregious thing on the face of the planet, they have been focussing the power of this law on its diplomats.
19:01:33 <sbp> yeah. if they've been accused of war crimes
19:01:43 <sbp> because, like, that's totally the same as whenever they feel like it
19:01:58 <clsn> (rather than, say, Kim Jong Il, George Bush, or Mahmoud Ahmedinejad)
19:02:05 <sbp> since everybody gets accused of war crimes at least once in their careers
19:02:17 <clsn> Mm... Say rather, accused without advice from an actual *prosecutor*.
19:02:28 <sbp> I doubt Kim Jong Il, say, is likely to visit Britain in the near future
19:02:37 <clsn> (which is probably a good thing)
19:02:59 <sbp> well I assumed by accused in "This legal concept empowers judges to issue arrest warrants for visiting officials who have been accused of war crimes in a foreign conflict." they meant accused on the same kinds of legal grounds as is authorised to the police
19:03:49 <sbp> though the later “without any prior knowledge or advice by a prosecutor” seems to contradict that
19:03:55 <clsn> Yeah.
19:03:59 <sbp> TIEM TO CHECK THE WHIKIEKIEPEDIEAZ!
19:04:16 <clsn> Hence the "whenever they feel like it". Ideally a prosecutor or someone should be involved in prosecuting.
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19:05:11 <sbp> Wikipedia says to refer to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Augusto_Pinochet%27s_arrest_and_trial
19:05:30 <sbp> well, does this just mean that the judge acts as prosecutor?
19:05:41 <sbp> are judged deemed skilled enough to act as prosecutors in this case?
19:05:57 <clsn> Which would itself be odd, since how can the prosecutor judge? Or vice-versa?
19:06:03 <sbp> *-es
19:06:25 <clsn> By definition, a prosecutor is partisan, on one side of the issue. By definition, a judge should not be.
19:06:44 <sbp> well, consider the police and their powers of arrest and charge
19:06:55 <sbp> by definition they too should be non-partisan
19:07:13 <clsn> That's why the police arrest and charge and then bring it to trial before a judge.
19:07:33 <clsn> They're not acting as judges. They're enforcement, that's what they do.
19:07:35 <sbp> okay. so in this case they're just bypassing the police?
19:08:21 <sbp> anyway, in the UK magistrates issue arrest warrants
19:08:25 <sbp> the police just ask for them
19:08:25 <clsn> No, the judge is bringing the prosecution directly, as you said. That's not a very judgely thing to do. OTOH, if it were that simple, it probably wouldn't have lasted so long anyway.
19:08:35 <sbp> and magistrates are the lowest rank of the judiciary, effectively
19:08:43 <sbp> so this is consonant with that
19:08:56 <sbp> (except that there is no appeal by the police in this case)
19:09:49 <clsn> (which already sounds funny, since I expect one to appeal to the *judiciary* to guard against abuse by the *police* and not the other way around)
19:11:40 <sbp> [[[
19:11:41 <sbp> Despite his release on grounds of ill-health, the unprecedented detention of Pinochet in a foreign country for crimes against humanity committed in his own country, without a warrant or request for extradition from his own country, marks a watershed in international law. Some scholars consider it one of the most important events in judicial history since the Nuremberg trials of Nazi war criminals.
19:11:47 <sbp> ]]] — http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Augusto_Pinochet%27s_arrest_and_trial
19:18:32 <sbp> http://www.independent.co.uk/opinion/commentators/sir-geoffrey-bindman-livni-has-no-right-to-claim-immunity-from-prosecution-1841992.html
19:18:59 <sbp> apparently it was a London court
19:20:07 <sbp> http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/comment/leading_article/article6958044.ece?openComment=true
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19:21:36 <sbp> "The warrant was granted by a London court at the request of Palestinian plaintiffs"
19:21:41 <sbp> — http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/8416816.stm
19:22:03 <sbp> ah, it was Westminster Magistrates' Court
19:22:38 <clsn> And that I guess is a big part of the problem. "Accused of war crimes..." by whom? Pretty much everyone in power can be accused of practically anything. But if diplomats can't travel, that's not likely to help matters.
19:24:47 <sbp> ha! 'The FCO insisted that the issue of an arrest warrant for any foreign national would always be a matter solely for a UK court.' — http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/dc2459a6-e917-11de-a756-00144feab49a.html
19:26:15 <sbp> 'The judge refused to issue the warrant until it was clear Livni was in fact in the country, as he was erroneously informed on Sunday.' — http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2009/dec/14/tzipi-livni-israel-gaza-arrest
19:26:55 <sbp> this explains why I can find so little information about it: 'Because of the potential damage to UK-Israeli relations – and because of legal pitfalls facing those who disclosed information about the application – few people with any detailed knowledge of it were prepared to comment today.'
19:27:01 <sbp> (ibid.)
19:27:26 <sbp> clsn: this is very interesting: 'A statement issued by HM Court Service implied that there had been no application for an arrest warrant, stating "there is no record of any such hearing". A spokeswoman maintained that this was not a misleading statement.'
19:28:28 <clsn> Yeah, I saw that. I don't know what it means either.
19:28:41 <clsn> (the ft.com link didn't like me; wanted registration)
19:30:47 <sbp> [[[
19:30:48 <sbp> Israel now faces UN war crimes report that particularly details Israel's alleged war crimes during the Gaza offensive.
19:30:48 <sbp> The report, which was compiled by a panel led by Richard Goldstone, a South African judge, had already been endorsed by the UN Human Rights Council, which sponsored the fact-finding commission.
19:30:48 <sbp> Israeli forces deliberately attacked civilians, failed to take precautions to minimize loss of civilian life and cited strong evidence Israeli forces committed "grave breaches" of the Geneva Convention, the 575-page report noted.
19:30:54 <sbp> ]]] — http://www.worldbulletin.net/news_detail.php?id=51308
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19:31:53 <sbp> "Palestinian sources claimed to have seen her at the event and alerted the lawyers who were seeking the warrant." — http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2009/dec/15/tzipi-livni-arrest-warrant-israeli
19:31:58 <sbp> MoiraA: thanks for my postcard!
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19:33:46 <sbp> "Nice one, Sir T. You came up with a useful, unifying means of global communication that changed the way we went about everything, from news to wanking." — http://www.guardian.co.uk/tv-and-radio/2009/dec/12/the-people-who-ruined-the-decade1
19:35:16 <sbp> clsn: http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2009/dec/16/david-miliband-tzipi-livni
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19:36:06 <clsn> I read also that even Goldstone conceded that the report was not properly investigated.
19:36:15 <sbp> clsn: this is basically the article I was looking for
19:39:39 <sbp> I am surprised, however, that this is allowed at the magistrate level
19:41:07 <sbp> note also the background of the author: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daniel_Machover
19:42:53 <sbp> hmm. interesting that out of all the media articles I've read on this so far (quite a few now), only two of them are as far as I know written by lawyers, and both of the lawyer positions were closely entangled with Palestinian rights
19:43:52 <sbp> of course it would be interesting to see what happens about this issue, but now the media will entirely lose track of it as it goes through its most interesting phase
19:44:23 <clsn> naturally...
19:48:03 <sbp> http://online.wsj.com/media/1214pod02.jpg
19:48:44 <sbp> oh, I heard that sales of small metallic models of Milan cathedral have skyrocketed by the way
19:48:52 <sbp> apparently everybody in Italy wants one now
19:48:53 <clsn> Hmm. "Goldstone emphasized that his conclusion that war crimes had been committed was always intended as conditional." He's quoted saying "if this was a court of law, we would have nothing proven"
19:49:18 <sbp> "intended as conditional"?
19:49:23 <sbp> conditional on what? what condition?
19:49:39 <sbp> http://online.wsj.com/media/1214pod06.jpg
19:49:48 <clsn> "He still hopes that independent investigations carried out by Israel and the Palestinians will use the allegations as, he said, “a useful road map.”"
19:49:54 <clsn> http://law.fordham.edu/faculty/15762.htm
19:50:18 <sbp> http://online.wsj.com/media/1214pod13.jpg
19:50:44 <sbp> clsn: what condition was being referred to?
19:51:29 <clsn> What's weird about http://online.wsj.com/media/1214pod02.jpg (and I have no idea what the context was) is that I could totally see it as a kid trying to peek into the barrel. Where is the protest that your picture is from?
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19:51:50 <sbp> http://online.wsj.com/media/1211pow08.jpg - "Vlademir Carpin, a Russian Christian pilgrim, held the New Testament on Tuesday as he stood outside a cave that he turned into his temporary home, in the Mount of Olives, Jerusalem. Mr. Carpin said he decided to live in the cave to await the return of the Messiah."
19:52:02 <sbp> clsn: he is trying to peek into the barrel
19:52:10 <clsn> Apparently the results of later investigations. "Ours wasn’t an investigation, it was a fact-finding mission"
19:52:17 <sbp> the peek photo is in Afghanistan, he is an Afghan villager
19:52:22 <sbp> the protest arrest is in Copenhagen
19:52:27 <clsn> Ah okay.
19:52:37 <sbp> later investigations: peculiar
19:52:48 <sbp> "we have proven it only if later investigations prove it"?
19:52:57 <sbp> sounds ridiculous
19:53:51 <clsn> Indeed. That's what I mean. He says himself that he only took statements from one side, etc, though does defend what fact-checking he did do.
19:57:58 <MoiraA> hello sbp
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19:59:06 <Monty> hi m4rk
19:59:25 <sbp> .title http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/middle_east/article5563082.ece
19:59:27 <phenny> sbp: Names of commanders to be kept secret as Gaza weapons inquiry begins - Times Online
19:59:35 <sbp> the LDF admitted using white phosphorous
19:59:41 <sbp> but only as a smoke screen, which is legal
19:59:51 <sbp> but they did open up an inquiry about possible misuse
20:00:13 <clsn> Woops. Order of magnitude messup. http://sandbox.blog-city.com/between_goldstone_and_gaza_whats_one_more_zero.htm
20:00:36 <sbp> kinda hard to argue against the photograph of it raining down on the UN building of course...
20:03:15 <sbp> hmm, looks like the report came back saying they didn't use it on civilian areas
20:03:18 <sbp> this despite:
20:03:20 <sbp> [[[
20:03:21 <sbp> On January 20, Paul Wood of the BBC reports from Gaza on what appears to be white phosphorus use near the vicinity of civilian areas. Amnesty team weapon expert Christopher Cobb-Smith, who witnessed the shelling during the conflict, reported "we saw streets and alleyways littered with evidence of the use of white phosphorus, including still-burning wedges and the remnants of the shells and canisters fired by the Israeli army."
20:03:27 <sbp> ]]] — http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_phosphorus
20:03:37 <clsn> Yow, *three* orders of magnitude messup, though on a very different figure. http://sandbox.blog-city.com/gaza_buried_in_flour.htm
20:03:59 <clsn> yeah, not happy when I heard about reports of white phosphorus being used.
20:07:38 <sbp> "Notwithstanding this, the investigations revealed a very small number of incidents in which intelligence or operational errors took place during the fighting." — http://www.mfa.gov.il/MFA/Terrorism-+Obstacle+to+Peace/Hamas+war+against+Israel/IDF_Conclusion_of_investigations_Operation_Cast_Lead_Part1_22-Apr-2009.htm.htm
20:08:11 <MacTed> "If you don't know, as of today, Facebook will automatically start plunging the Earth into the Sun. To change this option, go to Settings --> Planetary Settings --> Trajectory then UN-CLICK the box that says 'Apocalypse.' Facebook kept this one quiet. Copy and paste onto your status for all to see."
20:08:13 <MacTed> [EOM]
20:09:00 <jsled> heh
20:09:40 <clsn> yeah, I'm sure things aren't as sweet and innocent as the army would claim. but the same holds true on the other side, apparently.
20:10:20 <sbp> .title http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2009/mar/25/israel-white-phosphorus-gaza
20:10:22 <phenny> sbp: Human Rights Watch reveals extent of Israel's phosphorus use in Gaza | World news | guardian.co.uk
20:12:19 <sbp> annoying, the latest I can find is http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/middle_east/article6835910.ece - which is just the Goldstone report
20:13:31 <clsn> Yeah, that's another problem. Early information (which is sometimes wrong) gets a lot of coverage and fuss; later analysis is boring.
20:13:40 <clsn> There was a big thing about that years ago in the NYT.
20:14:17 <[bjoern]> .c 610/665 in percent
20:14:17 <phenny> 610 / 665 = 91.7293233 percent
20:14:26 <clsn> They showed a picture of an Israeli soldier threatening an Arab boy... And someone wrote in "um, no, that's MY son being "threatened", the soldier was *protecting* him, and you got the place wrong too."
20:14:55 <clsn> and then they printed an "oops" on the nth page (the initial picture on page 1). I'm not describing the story properly.
20:15:19 <sbp> heh
20:15:41 <cre8radix> heya
20:15:51 <sbp> yo cre8radix
20:15:55 <clsn> http://www.honestreporting.com/articles/reports/The_Photo_that_Started_it_All.asp
20:16:05 <cre8radix> howzit going, sbp?
20:16:06 <clsn> There's a WP article under Tuvia Grossman I think.
20:17:03 <sbp> .wik Tuvia Grossman
20:17:03 <phenny> "Tuvia Grossman is a Jewish American who became an icon of claimed anti-Israel media bias during the Second Intifada in 2000 when the caption of an Associated Press photograph of an Israeli police officer defending a bloodied Grossman from a violent Arab mob wrongly [...]" - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tuvia_Grossman
20:19:18 <sbp> that's pretty bad
20:25:55 <sbp> .wik Ma'oz Tzur
20:25:55 <phenny> "'Ma'oz Tzur' (Hebrew: מעוז צור), is a Jewish liturgical poem or piyyut." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ma'oz_Tzur
20:25:58 <sbp> interesting origin
20:30:31 <clsn> It's a pretty song. I've heard some very nice melodies for it.
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20:30:47 <clsn> (naturally, geek that I am, I know all the verses more or less by heart. most people know only the first)
20:34:12 <clsn> was discussing piyyutim with Broca on #jbopre just yesterday. There's a piyyut I'll someday get around to composing...
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20:49:28 <Monty> But what does jsled have to do with the price of fish?
20:49:47 <jsled> you're working overtime with all the ddos'ing, monty!
20:49:48 <Monty> Ferton Northby
20:49:58 <jsled> Is that who's doing it, monty?
20:50:03 <Monty> http://info.emeraldinsight.com/products/backfiles/pdf/backfiles_sample_5.pdf
20:51:33 <cre8radix> „Dies ist die Geschichte von einem Mann, der aus dem 50. Stock eines Hochhauses fällt und während er fällt, wiederholt er, um sich zu beruhigen, immer wieder: ‚Bis hierher geht es noch gut, bis hierher geht es noch ganz gut, bis hierher läuft es noch ganz gut…‘. Doch entscheidend ist nicht der Fall --- Entscheidend ist die Landung!“
20:52:23 <sbp> oh man, The Guardian challenged the succession laws in court based on human rights
20:52:33 <sbp> "The Convention, however, nowhere lists the right to succeed to the Crown as a human right; therefore, the challenge was rejected." — http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Succession_to_the_British_Throne
20:52:36 <sbp> that's pretty hilarious
20:59:26 <cre8radix> never get married to a roman catholic!
20:59:28 <cre8radix> :)
21:01:12 <clsn> There was an article I read a while ago in which a court found that there is no constitutional right *not* to be framed for a crime.
21:02:05 <cre8radix> lol
21:06:21 <cre8radix> sbp: "By the end of the seventeenth century, a significant German community had developed (in the uk), consisting mostly of businessmen, mainly from Hamburg, sugar bakers and other economic migrants."
21:06:22 <cre8radix> :)
21:07:03 <cre8radix> die fischköpfe und die sachsen... lustig!
21:15:09 <sbp> so Dr. Johnson (apparently) wrote a "Debate on the Humble Petition and Advice of the Rump Parliament to Cromwell in 1657, to assume the Title of King; abridged, methodized and digested", but I can't find it anywhere
21:15:26 <sbp> cre8radix: ooh, sugarbakers!
21:21:29 <cre8radix> sbp: :)
21:21:31 <cre8radix> http://photos-c.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc3/hs004.snc3/11164_1156013339972_1216885216_30364872_6520467_n.jpg
21:23:37 <sbp> hahaha
21:23:56 <sbp> I just found a seventeenth century pamphlet that argues for the excellence of the English language
21:24:06 <sbp> and its entitled "Vindex Anglicus"
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21:47:58 <Monty> it's edsu!
21:50:28 <sbp> "Only William Derham appears to have taken up Towneley's challenge and they jointly published the rainfall measurements for Towneley and Upminster in Essex for the years 1697 to 1704."
21:50:30 <sbp> awesome
21:50:46 <sbp> from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Towneley again
21:50:56 <sbp> since loggy couldn't be bothered to stick around
21:51:56 <sbp> earlier quote was:
21:51:57 <sbp> "An investigation carried out with the physician Henry Power, followed by correspondence with Robert Boyle, showed the relationship between the pressure and volume of gas in a closed system and led to the formulation of Boyle's Law, or as Boyle named it, Mr. Towneley's hypothesis."
21:51:57 <Monty> evenin's
21:53:32 <sbp> .wik Connie Hedegaard
21:53:32 <phenny> "Connie Hedegaard (born September 15, 1960) is a Danish politician and public intellectual who has been officially nominated for the European Commission, and will most likely be the future European Commissioner for the Climate." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Connie_Hedegaard
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22:12:32 <[bjoern]> .c 614/665 in percent
22:12:33 <phenny> 614 / 665 = 92.3308271 percent
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22:13:23 <[bjoern]> .c 1100/1242 in percent
22:13:23 <phenny> 1100 / 1242 = 88.5668277 percent
22:13:54 <[bjoern]> .c 1071/1196 in percent
22:13:54 <phenny> 1071 / 1196 = 89.548495 percent
22:14:21 <[bjoern]> .c 892/976 in percent
22:14:21 <phenny> 892 / 976 = 91.3934426 percent
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22:17:56 <Monty> hey lmorchard
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23:22:15 <Monty> bah, it's _ulises again
23:22:15 <Monty> Speak of the devil, it's nslater!
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