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01:10:34 <kpreid> .o wordofthems
01:10:36 <phenny> squeezability
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01:41:33 <[[sroracle]]> Hello Monty
01:41:34 <Monty> americans hehe
01:41:39 <[[sroracle]]> :O
01:41:44 * [[sroracle]] slaps Monty
01:41:44 <Monty> squeezability
01:41:53 <[[sroracle]]> bleh, perv
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04:53:38 <Monty> hi jeffarch
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06:38:22 <Monty> Speak of the devil, it's jeffarch!
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10:06:57 <Monty> yo leobard!
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11:15:26 <sbp> .o wordofthems
11:15:27 <phenny> retinting
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11:45:49 <Talliesin> sbp: "word of the millisecond"?
11:51:38 <sbp> no idea!
11:51:55 <sbp> would make some sense though
11:52:41 <sbp> (.o commands are webservices usually contributed by other people, in case you don't know. I only know about this one because kpreid used it overnight, and since I haven't seen anybody else use it before, he is prime suspect for creating it)
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11:56:46 <sbp> Talliesin: Happy Old Christmas Day, by the way!
11:56:54 *** sbp changed the topic to: "Happy Old Christmas Day"
11:57:11 <sbp> (Christmas Day in the parts that still use the Julian Calendar)
11:57:28 <sbp> also, coincidentally, the day on which Jesus was most likely born
11:57:32 <sbp> as far as I can tell
11:58:09 <sbp> and also the Epiphany of course
11:58:12 <sbp> calendars are weird things
11:59:06 <sbp> also Sandy Denny's birthday
11:59:10 <archels> Hm, should I put my Christmas tree back in the attic yet?
11:59:27 <sbp> traditionally you're supposed to do it before Epiphany, yes
11:59:44 <sbp> I agree with tradition on this as a matter of taste
11:59:52 <sbp> though I would like to celebrate Old Christmas Day in some way
12:00:09 <archels> ah, that's today
12:00:21 <archels> It's called "Three Kings" in Dutch.
12:00:33 <sbp> interesting
12:00:43 <sbp> phenny: en nl "Three Kings"?
12:00:43 <phenny> sbp: "Driekoningen" (en to nl, translate.google.com)
12:00:47 <sbp> nice
12:01:27 <archels> "Driekoningen" instead of "Drie koningen". Interesting.
12:01:42 *** sbp changed the topic to: "Happy Old Christmas Day / Jesus' Most Likely Birthday / Epiphany / Driekoningen / Sandy Denny's birthday"
12:03:38 <sbp> hmm, so I guess Old Epiphany is on the 18th?
12:05:41 <archels> Well, don't ask me.
12:05:49 <sbp> heh, heh
12:06:42 <kpreid> Talliesin: you are correct about the interpretation of the name
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12:07:24 <kpreid> sbp: I created that service back in the heyday of .o contributions -- I was the one that figured out I could do it by commenting on the wiki page despite not being a project member
12:10:57 <sbp> oho
12:11:04 <sbp> so, what does it stand for?
12:12:09 <kpreid> what Talliesin said
12:14:56 <sbp> :-)
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13:51:42 <Talliesin> sbp, wrt old christmas, in Ireland today is Nollaig na mBan; "women's Christmas".
13:52:32 <sbp> hehe, nice. why women's?
13:52:36 <Talliesin> Still found in some parts of the country, but mostly died out. A day for the women-folk to have a party after catering to us men-folk for the last 12 days.
13:52:42 <sbp> nice
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13:56:55 <Talliesin> Not sure about Jesus' Most Likely Birthday. Further into spring seems more likely.
14:00:06 <sbp> why?
14:00:06 <Monty> why? how? what?
14:00:12 <sbp> whither?
14:00:26 <sbp> I'm just getting my information from the earliest documented source
14:00:36 <sbp> Clement of Alexandria's Stromata
14:00:48 <sbp> he goes through various candidate dates
14:00:59 <sbp> and mentions the one he thinks
14:01:09 <sbp> so I figure that one is most likely
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14:02:46 <sbp> just in case you bring up the shepherd point, I read somewhere that the climate is warm enough for shepherds to tend outdoors in early January (and that they still do)
14:02:57 <Talliesin> That is true.
14:03:06 <sbp> also that this is much more circumstantial than a specific date from Clement
14:03:17 <sbp> who was a pretty good scholar
14:03:29 <sbp> and fl. 2nd century AD
14:03:56 <sbp> doesn't make it certain, of course
14:04:09 <sbp> but a sort of "well, if you're going to cast your lot in with a particular date" thing...
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15:41:05 <Talliesin> sent off even
15:41:26 <Talliesin> Hmm. That above does not bode well for the quality of my edits :(
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16:42:05 <sbp> yo
16:46:58 <BigJibby> ho ho
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19:10:06 <MoiraA> sbp: Happy New Year!
19:13:35 <sbp> hey MoiraA, likewise
19:13:39 <sbp> happy Old Christmas Day, too!
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19:47:26 <MoiraA> to you as well!
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20:51:32 <jetscreamer> http://www.collegehumor.com/video:1926105
20:52:14 <jetscreamer> oops
20:53:02 <sbp> .title
20:53:03 <phenny> sbp: PWN'D Support Group - CollegeHumor video
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21:14:16 <Monty> bah, it's Talliesin again
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21:45:54 <archels> sbp (& others): http://online.wsj.com/article/SB126212850216209527.html
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22:02:11 <clsn> archels: I used to be on the CALENDR-L mailing list about calendars... LOTS of proposed alternate calendars there!
22:02:49 <clsn> (there was one that I recall we *knew* was going to be adopted, because the person writing about it had been personally told by the Holy Spirit that it would be within something like two years)
22:08:59 <clsn> (ooh, cool, even found the email file containing that in my archives on the first try)
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22:45:35 <deltab> clsn: yes, but how long were the years?
22:45:59 <clsn> Apparently it was supposed to happen in 2001.
22:46:48 <clsn> The guy had a lot of trouble dealing with the fact that (a) The NT states that the crucifixion happened around Passover (b) Passover is always in the spring, and (c) The Holy Spirit told him the crucifixion happened in August.
22:47:29 <clsn> He tried very hard to argue that Passover should be in August, that we were mistaken for holding it in the spring... That didn't hold up, and besides, even if he's right, the "mistake" was already being made then.
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