2010-02-08 Swhack IRC Log

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03:19:30 <jsled> .gc cryptogasms
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09:05:28 <Muimi> yo
09:06:42 <Muimi> click click
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10:09:07 <[bjoern]> I wonder why they used to use a "="ish char as hyphen
10:23:33 <sbp> yo
10:23:54 <[bjoern]> Yo not, but exthplain
10:26:55 <sbp> hang on, I've got phennies to reboot
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10:27:24 <[bjoern]> You don't want me to hang on.
10:27:34 <[bjoern]> On probably also would not like it.
10:28:01 <sbp> aw no Monty either
10:28:11 <sbp> I was gonna have him retort
10:28:17 <sbp> but now you'll have to go retortless
10:29:14 <sbp> [bjoern]: apparently it started because the comma used to be a slanted line
10:29:28 <sbp> and the dash was a double slanted line, presumably based on this
10:29:31 <[bjoern]> That's your response to everything.
10:29:32 <sbp> Wikipedia then explains:
10:29:35 <sbp> “In medieval times and the early days of printing, the predecessor of the comma was a slash. As the hyphen ought not to be confused with this, a double-slash was used, this resembling an equals sign tilted like a slash. Writing forms changed with time, and included the full development of the comma, so the hyphen could become one horizontal stroke.”
10:29:59 <sbp> my response to everything is that I have phennies to reboot
10:30:04 <[bjoern]> They should have used Verdana-Stylus'
10:30:06 <sbp> but I already used that
10:30:18 <sbp> .g Verdana-Stylus'
10:30:19 <phenny> sbp: http://www.stylusstudio.com/xmldev/200112/post50760.html
10:30:23 <sbp> eek!
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10:54:29 <sbp> apparently “religion” is only mentioned in the New Testament five times
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10:54:52 <sbp> once in reported speech, once in the negative sense of self-made religion
10:55:10 <sbp> another time in the reported speech of Paul referring to Judaism
10:55:37 <sbp> and twice in the letter by James in adjacent sentences
10:55:45 <[bjoern]> Im in ur teachings, oozing them inkorrectly
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10:57:19 <sbp> so the only actual reference to religion as we would consider religion is James saying that if you think you're religious (and actually he uses the word trembler or fearer there) but actually you speak a load of crap, then your "religion" is worthless
10:57:49 <[bjoern]> Like television.
10:57:50 <sbp> and that true religion before God the father is to visit orphans and widows, and to keep yourself morally clean
10:58:08 <[bjoern]> I don't like that.
10:58:10 <sbp> television speaks a load of crap?
10:58:20 <[bjoern]> Think about it.
10:58:22 <sbp> you don't like visiting orphans and widows?
10:58:41 <[bjoern]> You could say that.
10:59:55 <sbp> so I was thinking that religion is probably a modern construct
11:00:06 <sbp> and as far as I can tell, the Greeks had two words for religion
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11:00:20 <sbp> one is the sense used by James, which kinda means worship and religious practise
11:00:28 <sbp> and the other is a more widespread sense, but I dunno what that one means
11:01:01 <sbp> my idea was that it's stupid to have a "Religion" box on the census form
11:01:11 <Muimi> how is everyone?
11:01:22 <sbp> but I suppose a lot of Jedi Knights already worked this out
11:01:24 <sbp> hey Muimi
11:01:30 <sbp> welcome to... Swhack?
11:02:49 <Muimi> Is tihs an AI chan?
11:03:21 <sbp> there's no intelligence here, artificial or otherwise
11:03:30 <Muimi> Crap.
11:04:34 <sbp> try #ai
11:05:01 <Muimi> ok
11:05:23 <sbp> (a well populated AI channel)
11:05:34 <Muimi> cool!
11:07:29 <sbp> “The icy dwarf planet Pluto undergoes dramatic seasonal changes, according to images from the Hubble Space Telescope.” — http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/8498455.stm
11:07:35 <sbp> pfft, I already worked this out years ago
11:08:47 <sbp> I took all the best images of pluto that I could find (I think there were like three), plotted them onto a globe, then spun the globes about and tried to compare them
11:09:00 <sbp> and, like, they didn't match at all. might as well have been different planets
11:09:09 <sbp> so I figured Pluto must be pretty dynamic
11:09:21 <[bjoern]> what planet.
11:09:30 <sbp> Pluto
11:10:08 <Muimi> So, okay. I joined that channel. It's dead.
11:10:33 <sbp> Sep 28 12:36:11 <sbp>  I can't even remember what Pluto is these days
11:10:33 <sbp> Sep 28 12:36:17 <sbp>  .wik Pluto (rock in space)
11:10:33 <sbp> Sep 28 12:36:53 <sbp>  134340 Pluto?! oh my poor, poor Pluto. what have they done to you?
11:10:44 <sbp> poor Pluto
11:10:50 <sbp> Muimi: there's like 30 people in it!
11:11:06 <Muimi> 30 bots. lol
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11:11:42 <sbp> and anyway, like I kept telling people who joined #swig expecting to find a SWIG channel (idiots), if you don't actually stay in the place that I direct you to and chat there, how exactly do you expect a community to form? heh
11:11:43 * Muimi sighs.
11:11:51 <sbp> we had dozens and dozens of people looking for SWIG help
11:11:54 <[bjoern]> belt object and trans neptunian object.
11:12:06 <sbp> if they'd all actually have congregated in #swig on OFTC... it'd be a big SWIG channel
11:12:11 <Muimi> Hey sbp, why don't you direct people to more active channels? ^^
11:12:13 <[bjoern]> Category:Object in space, probably too
11:12:25 <sbp> they'd be more active if they followed my directions
11:12:56 <[bjoern]> I don't see the benefit in directing people.
11:13:12 <sbp> it gets them out of our hair
11:13:23 <[bjoern]> Which is good how.
11:13:33 <sbp> we end up with better hair
11:13:33 * Muimi monkey tickle finger
11:13:51 <Muimi> Anybody here know anything about AI? I'm trying to find some open source stuff
11:13:59 <[bjoern]> [citation needed]
11:14:05 <Muimi> I tried ALICE, but I can't find the full open source code.
11:14:43 <sbp> Aug 25 00:23:03 <sbp>   Computer Science + PDF - Pluto = Boring
11:15:11 <[bjoern]> I doubt adding Pluto to boring gives you pdf and computer science.
11:15:22 <sbp> try it
11:15:27 <sbp> science up that thing man
11:15:51 <sbp> http://www.shof.msrcsites.co.uk/pluto.jpg
11:15:57 <[bjoern]> Why, Ill just wait until xkcd steals one of our ideas once more.
11:16:08 <sbp> good idea
11:16:29 <sbp> ah, here we go:
11:16:42 <sbp> Apr 05 16:16:20 * sbp  rotates his virtual Pluto
11:16:42 <sbp> Apr 05 16:17:47 <sbp>  either Pluto is changing, or one of these research groups don't know shit
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11:18:25 <sbp> http://swhack.com/logs/2008-04-05#T14-34-53
11:23:33 <sbp> I should email Mike Brown (again)
11:23:47 <sbp> he replied last time, even though he must have been insanely busy
11:29:27 <sbp> .thesaurus vindicate
11:29:29 <phenny> IOError: [Errno socket error] (111, 'Connection refused') (file "/usr/lib/python2.5/httplib.py", line 683, in connect)
11:29:32 <sbp> nu?
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11:41:20 <archels> .o acronym rtl
11:41:21 <phenny> archels: Sorry, no such service. See http://code.google.com/p/phenny-ws/wiki/ServiceDefinitions
11:42:37 <archels> Ride the Lobster
11:44:30 <sbp> emailed him by the way
11:45:06 <sbp> I pointed to my "research", and asked if he'd thought about discovering a moon of Saturn
11:52:09 <sbp> trying to find my files now
11:59:58 <sbp> found them. jolly good
12:05:43 <sbp> looks like I was tipped off by Buie: http://web.archive.org/web/20060901114000/http://www.lowell.edu/users/buie/pluto/ana04.html
12:09:42 <[bjoern]> Pluto is being manipulated by a mouse.
12:17:51 <[bjoern]> Hmm I had not realised one of the books I downloaded from google books, Allgemeines_Gelehrten_Lexicon.pdf, is 300 MB in size
12:18:22 <[bjoern]> 1330 pages
12:25:45 <sbp> sent an addendum to Mike Brown noting my sources
12:25:51 <sbp> I used three datasets, apparently
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13:41:30 * jessica just watched some of the coverage of Blair getting raked over the coals with regard to the Iraq War.
13:45:22 <jessica> I'm not sure why they just didn't go ahead and set up Cheri Blair in stocks outside Holloway?
13:45:30 <jessica> I bet that would have gotten an even better turnout.
13:45:32 <[bjoern]> penis.
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13:45:51 <sbp> hehe
13:45:54 <[bjoern]> also: no.
13:46:19 <archels> jessica: He's getting properly denigrated then?
13:46:20 <jessica> I know, but people really, really, really want to beat and humiliate Cheri Blair on basic principle.
13:46:32 <archels> The Dutch PM came out relatively unscathed.
13:46:40 <jessica> Maybe it's the British taste for masochism, but no one has actually shot her yet.
13:46:50 <jessica> Well, we have an enormous advantage here.
13:47:18 <[bjoern]> I dont understand, why would anybody want to humiliate a britishpeople? does that not happen automatically?
13:47:21 <jessica> As an American living in that bluest of blue states, the Massachusetts Bay Colony, we just blame everything on the pretzel-choker guy.
13:47:34 <[bjoern]> (unless you have the Swhack Original Antidote)
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16:02:06 <Talliesin> jessica: Please, if we're going to discuss such tempting things as pillories, beatings and humiliation, can we find a tastier target that Cherie Blair?
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16:23:51 <jeanniecool> (penis)
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16:26:08 <Talliesin> jeanniecool: exactly
16:29:39 * jeanniecool nods at Talliesin
16:29:44 <jeanniecool> I knew you'd understand!
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18:21:48 <[bjoern]> swhacklopedians, greetings, i might be sending them
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19:02:07 <BigJibby> take me to your leader
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