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01:23:08 <[bjoern]> hmm http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Template:WTFPL
01:24:18 <jeanniecool> Penis.
01:24:33 <jeanniecool> Template:WTFPenisLovers
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02:52:25 <Monty> welcome, theresaanna
02:52:40 <jeanniecool> Ignore Monty, theresaanna.
02:52:43 <Monty> You know, paperclips installs manky chewing gum >:)
02:52:47 <jeanniecool> Also, it helps if you say "penis" a lot.
02:52:53 <jeanniecool> (That's my role here.)
02:52:56 <theresaanna> penis penis penis?
02:52:59 <jeanniecool> Yep!
02:53:07 <jeanniecool> You'll (ahem) fit right in.
02:53:13 <theresaanna> please tell me that someone has come up with a twss module
02:53:23 <jeanniecool> SeanB is in England, though, so he's sleepyboy now.
02:54:01 <theresaanna> i named my parakeet manky when i was a kid...
02:54:25 <theresaanna> damned europe and its being in the future
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02:54:58 <theresaanna> how many actual humans do we have?
02:55:05 <theresaanna> does Monty know?
02:55:05 <Monty> Does talking about this bother you ?
02:55:08 <jeanniecool> There's a lot of them here. :-)
02:55:10 <theresaanna> a little, yes
02:55:18 <theresaanna> hi, humans and bots alike
02:55:25 <theresaanna> also, penis
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03:02:25 * MoiraA is human
03:02:37 <theresaanna> hi human MoiraA
03:02:46 <MoiraA> female human
03:03:21 * theresaanna enjoys running into fellow female irc humans
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03:12:55 <Monty> it's eel!
03:13:54 <theresaanna> jeanniecool: who is responsible for Monty? I love this person.
03:13:59 <Monty> remount / as they did you submit a laugh trying to tell homebrew formula for couch?
03:14:04 <theresaanna> exactly
03:14:24 <jeanniecool> SeanB as well, theresaanna.
03:14:27 <theresaanna> aaaah
03:14:31 <theresaanna> well i doubly love him now
03:14:40 <theresaanna> thanks, jeanniecool
03:14:50 * jeanniecool has loved him inappropriately and from afar for years, so bloody get in line
03:15:03 <theresaanna> :D
03:15:49 <jeanniecool> You can't have ALL the young geeks. :-P
03:16:01 <theresaanna> jeanniecool: but... i... but... well...
03:16:04 <theresaanna> I WANT THEM ALL
03:16:25 * jeanniecool does, too
03:16:36 * jeanniecool - it turns out, though - can't have any of them
03:16:41 <theresaanna> :(
03:16:46 <theresaanna> jeanniecool: i can rent dtg
03:16:55 * theresaanna will share with jeanniecool as she is good people
03:17:13 <MoiraA> ah! theresaanna ! you female too
03:17:19 <theresaanna> yes! indeed!
03:17:22 <MoiraA> power to us!
03:17:25 <theresaanna> go us!
03:17:37 <jeanniecool> Yes.
03:17:39 <jeanniecool> We like MoiraA.
03:17:48 <jeanniecool> She's in the UK, too, though, so wth are you doin' up, missy??!?
03:17:51 <MoiraA> heh how nice
03:17:59 <MoiraA> I like the regulars here too
03:18:02 <jeanniecool> MoiraA, theresaanna is from over there.
03:18:06 * jeanniecool points to #joiito
03:18:06 <MoiraA> best channel I'm in
03:18:10 <MoiraA> the UK?
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05:18:59 <BigJibby> Monty, yo
05:19:00 <Monty> yes it then?
05:19:08 <BigJibby> yes it, Monty!
05:19:09 <Monty> I see.
05:19:28 <BigJibby> Monty, seriously, how are you?
05:19:31 <Monty> (((4 * 50) + GET IT IS A NUMBERING SCHEME
05:19:51 <BigJibby> Monty, that's a lot!
05:19:52 <Monty> $DYLD_LIBRARY_PATH rather
05:20:04 <BigJibby> Monty, hah fail
05:20:05 <Monty> He'd just use it for ages
05:20:17 <BigJibby> Monty, I know it's stupid
05:20:19 <Monty> oldie, but I duuno, probably!
05:20:29 <BigJibby> Monty, no, totally!
05:20:32 <Monty> cameras are some people return anything great interview
05:21:04 <BigJibby> I know, Monty, cameras make for great interviews
05:21:06 <Monty> A little bird told me that hell is rectal.
05:21:22 <BigJibby> Monty, I would think so
05:21:22 <Monty> hehe...
05:21:33 <BigJibby> alright, goodnight, Monty
05:21:36 <Monty> creased scrotal fluid quacks at tremendous Ian Hislop.
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05:33:37 <[bjoern]> Monty.
05:33:38 <Monty> BTW, I'm wrong
05:33:50 <[bjoern]> You don't say.
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09:42:12 <Monty> Thank goodness, Talliesin is back!
09:44:42 * Arnia feeds Monty a botsnack
09:44:42 <Monty> RESTfully it again for abstracting the guild master
09:45:10 <Arnia> So /guilds/fools/officers/master?
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10:05:31 <Arnia> phenny, tell sbp about http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/23/toshiba-and-bill-gates-backed-terrapower-discussing-small-scale/
10:05:31 <phenny> Arnia: I'll pass that on when sbp is around.
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10:12:05 <sbp> .title http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/8582518.stm
10:12:08 <phenny> sbp: BBC News - Britain to expel Israeli diplomat
10:14:27 <sbp> oh this is a great headline:
10:14:28 <sbp> .title http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/8580716.stm
10:14:30 <phenny> sbp: BBC News - Germany warns against use of Firefox browser
10:21:31 <archels> Wasn't this latest FireFox "security hole" just a rogue SSL certificate authority?
10:22:50 <sbp> dunno, I'm not German
10:27:36 <archels> mhm, looks like I confused it with another news item.
10:29:29 <Jibbler> i doubt a rogue CA can run arbitrary code without user interaction
10:38:34 <MoiraA> great sbp
10:38:40 * MoiraA is heading for Dubai
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11:02:01 <sbp> Dubai? wow
11:02:03 <sbp> how long for?
11:03:08 <sbp> .c 9 * 8 * 8 * 8 * 8
11:03:08 <phenny> 9 * 8 * 8 * 8 * 8 = 36 864
11:03:18 <sbp> .c 9 * 8 * 8
11:03:18 <phenny> 9 * 8 * 8 = 576
11:04:51 <MoiraA> overnight on the way there
11:04:56 <MoiraA> 4 days coming home
11:05:05 <MoiraA> New Zealand in the middle
11:05:12 <MoiraA> I can send a postcard
11:07:15 <sbp> New Zealand *and* Dubai?
11:07:18 <sbp> hey, yes please!
11:21:34 <MoiraA> we travel first class on emerites A308 giant jumbo
11:21:44 <MoiraA> I get a bar to socialise in, spa pool and showers
11:21:52 <MoiraA> a suite
11:22:00 <MoiraA> it has an upstairs
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12:31:58 <Monty> lo panni_
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12:42:28 <sbp> yo
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12:49:01 <sbp> don't join just after I say yo!
12:49:03 <sbp> you know that makes me mad
12:49:08 <sbp> then I have to say yo again
12:51:14 * Arnia attaches string to sbp
13:00:27 <sbp> test please:
13:00:28 <sbp> http://inamidst.com/stuff/2010/flexid#Minor_discursion
13:04:20 <sbp> unfortunately links probably won't work
13:04:26 <sbp> need to figure those out next
13:05:25 <Arnia> interesting idea
13:07:05 <sbp> hmm. which event should I use to capture a fragment link being activated in the page?
13:09:59 <Arnia> Well, if it is a link probably click
13:10:22 * Arnia still thinks CSS needs to better support DOM events
13:10:40 <Arnia> I don't like that hyperlinks are special cased in HTML
13:11:49 <sbp> hmm. click didn't work
13:14:46 <sbp> perhaps I need a stopPropagation in there
13:15:14 <sbp> nope. gah
13:15:38 <Arnia> Linked through to the article on fluidised beds...
13:15:38 <Arnia> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fluidized_bed
13:15:50 <Arnia> was a bit of a surprise
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13:28:51 <sbp> aargh, now it doesn't work at all
13:35:16 <sbp> oh, $('a').click(...) isn't working at all for some reason
13:35:19 <sbp> that would explain it
13:35:23 <sbp> oh wait, I know why
13:36:35 <sbp> aww yeah, now it works
13:38:35 <Arnia> why?
13:39:28 <sbp> I had the event binding outside of the document ready call
13:39:34 <sbp> so the document wasn't ready when I was binding
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13:52:02 <sbp> hi theresaanna
13:52:07 <theresaanna> hey sbp
13:52:10 <sbp> welcome to Swhack!
13:52:12 <theresaanna> thanks!
13:52:14 <sbp> this is a publically logged channel
13:52:22 <sbp> so don't say anything that might destroy your political career
13:52:32 <sbp> or, if you do, say it with vigour
13:52:40 <theresaanna> haha i do that in plenty of venues already, so i'm not worried :)
13:52:45 <theresaanna> but thank you for the heads up
13:52:51 <sbp> what browser do you use?
13:53:09 <theresaanna> depends on my mood. ff/chrome
13:53:20 <theresaanna> i use colloquy for irc
13:53:42 <sbp> would you mind checking this in Firefox for me please?
13:53:44 <sbp> http://inamidst.com/stuff/2010/flexid#Minor_discursion
13:53:50 <sbp> expected result: scrolls to the correct section
13:53:51 <theresaanna> will do
13:54:05 <sbp> and then clicking the Generalities link should take you to the Generalities section
13:54:07 <sbp> if all is well
13:54:15 <theresaanna> works beautifully
13:54:19 <sbp> awesome, thanks!
13:54:22 <theresaanna> np
13:54:42 <sbp> jeanniecool erroned, by the way
13:55:12 <theresaanna> hm?
13:55:19 <sbp> she was erroneous in the general direction of suggesting that I was responsible for Monty. even I am unable to reach the dizzy heights of ultimate perversion which could give rise to such a diabolical fiend as him
13:55:24 <Monty> if (trousers == Sunset Bay) { jabberclackers fornicates with Jean Alesi's WaveRace;}
13:55:31 <sbp> well demonstrated
13:56:06 <theresaanna> I am only slightly disappointed. I can't feel too badly in a world where a bot such as Monty exists
13:56:10 <Monty> pubic hairs's heart-breaking eugenics breaks cash's Zelenka's ombudsman!!!
13:56:17 <theresaanna> brilliant
13:56:35 <theresaanna> I am loving phenny which is what ultimately brought me here, so thank you
13:56:39 <jsled> sbp: re-implementing fragment identifiers?
13:56:42 <sbp> ah, you're welcome
13:56:54 <sbp> jsled: yeah, because having to specify them suuuuücks
13:57:05 <sbp> theresaanna: I'm re-writing phenny in python3
13:57:10 <sbp> BECAUSE OF INSANITY
13:57:17 <theresaanna> GASP
13:57:19 <theresaanna> awesome :)
13:57:22 <sbp> heh
13:57:37 <theresaanna> i am admittedly not fluent in python as i'm just a fledgeling programmer
13:57:44 <theresaanna> but phenny is part of my plan to rectify that
13:57:47 <sbp> ooh
13:58:02 <sbp> lots of people seem to learn python by tinkering with phenny
13:58:18 <sbp> Ohio State University are even forking it several times in their computer club
13:58:19 <theresaanna> it feels like an instant gratification way to learn
13:58:23 <sbp> hehe, yeah
13:58:42 <sbp> it makes me feel guilty because it's really poor code
13:58:46 <sbp> so try not to learn anything from it
13:58:49 <sbp> just squint at it
13:59:00 <sbp> or pretend it's perl
13:59:22 <theresaanna> haha - well, I have been around enough programmers to have a feel for general good practice so I'm not worried
13:59:28 <theresaanna> also I have experience in *gulps* php
13:59:33 * theresaanna hides
14:00:16 <sbp> we'll find you, mark my words
14:00:28 <sbp> nobody escapes the PHP Police
14:02:23 <theresaanna> well, I work as a front end dev using Drupal
14:02:30 <theresaanna> so its just turned out that I've been exposed to it most
14:02:38 <theresaanna> and speaking of poorly written... :D
14:05:50 <sbp> oh, are you a Drupal dev?
14:05:55 <sbp> or a dev who uses Drupal?
14:07:20 <theresaanna> i am
14:07:40 <theresaanna> though i focus mostly on front end/theme layer currently
14:07:51 <theresaanna> i am trying to branch out (pun intended)
14:09:06 <sbp> do you know Morbus Iff?
14:09:12 <theresaanna> I don't
14:09:29 <Arnia> You should
14:09:54 <Arnia> Is he online atm?
14:10:01 <Arnia> We could make introductions
14:10:06 <Arnia> Or ask Monty to...
14:10:10 <Monty> go for 0.11 build files so his job and something-else, and carriages, they might want loaded
14:11:24 <sbp> theresaanna: the facebook link on your homepage is broken
14:12:02 <theresaanna> oh no!
14:12:06 <theresaanna> thanks for the heads up sbp
14:12:09 <sbp> yw
14:12:31 <theresaanna> http://facebook.com/theresaanna should do it
14:12:49 <theresaanna> I neglect my site very badly
14:12:59 <sbp> hmm. it says “The page you requested was not found.”
14:13:04 <sbp> maybe I need to log in
14:13:33 <sbp> oh, yeah, I just needed to log in
14:13:42 <sbp> bad facebook. better error messages please
14:13:57 <Arnia> 404 != 403
14:14:03 <sbp> maybe it's a privacy thing. "I won't even pretend this page exists if people don't log in"
14:14:04 <sbp> yeah...
14:14:20 <sbp> I wonder if it's even a 404. a 200 wouldn't surprise me
14:14:22 <sbp> .head http://www.facebook.com/theresaanna
14:14:22 <phenny> sbp: 404, text/html, utf-8, 9970 bytes
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14:14:40 <Arnia> It would be a fair privacy thing, except it could break linked data cleaners
14:14:52 * Arnia nukes the classical web
14:14:58 <Arnia> http://wellplacedpixels.com/
14:14:58 <theresaanna> yeah, I had assumed that was the logic as well, but they should change their "404" page to reflect that it *might* be the case that you just need to login
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14:14:59 <Monty> yo p6eval!
14:15:28 <sbp> hmm, yeah
14:15:40 <Arnia> theresaanna: doesn't help if the accessor is a piece of software that could delete the URI from its database (and all linked data) because it no longer dereferences
14:15:43 <sbp> hehe, they could send a 403.5
14:15:51 <Arnia> which is a plausible 404 response
14:16:00 <Arnia> uh response to a 404
14:16:12 <sbp> ooh or a set union, or a perl6 junction
14:16:14 <sbp> 403 | 404
14:16:23 <Arnia> PICK ONE
14:16:34 <Arnia> 403.9 recurring
14:16:39 <sbp> p-p-p-pick up a palindrome
14:16:44 <sbp> 403.9 recurring = 404
14:17:01 <Arnia> Not in all number systems
14:17:02 <sbp> simple demonstration: 0.333 recurring = 1/3, and 1/3 * 3 is 1
14:17:10 <sbp> yeah yeah, cram your p-adics up yer arse mate
14:17:22 * sbp hugs crappy old regular decimal place bollocks
14:18:30 * Arnia goes categorial with http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Synthetic_differential_geometry
14:18:46 <sbp> I love how the font used for “Justin Stahl’s The Typography Manual” is the worst imaginable
14:19:39 <sbp> gah, I seriously wonder how many weeks of tafting it would take for me to be able to skim http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jet_(mathematics) and not be going “lolwhat” quite so freakin' much
14:19:59 <Arnia> The range of fonts available in iPhone OS X 3.1 and lower is limited
14:20:11 <Arnia> iPhone OS X 3.2 introduces per-application fonts
14:20:27 <sbp> no, I mean literally the text “Justin Stahl’s The Typography Manual” in the web page
14:20:29 <sbp> and for all the titles
14:21:53 * sbp peeks at http://dev.oluyede.org/download/misc/with.js
14:22:01 <sbp> people do some strange stuff
14:23:47 <Arnia> Aha
14:23:58 * Arnia understands bits and pieces of that article
14:24:09 <Arnia> I've always found fibre bundles a bit mind bending though
14:24:29 <clsn> wellplacedpixels apparently = "gradients are good"
14:24:52 <Arnia> Gradients + Apple = Good
14:25:03 <clsn> Ah, how could I have missed that.
14:25:11 <Arnia> I use gradients a fair amount though in my designs right now
14:25:47 <clsn> I might if I designed anything. My graphic design skills are not so hot, though, I'm slowly coming to accept.
14:25:49 <Arnia> Often very slight ones just to correct for the cognitive expectation that a flat surface still receives uneven lighting
14:26:32 <Arnia> (perfectly uniform colour looks strange, like the object is lighting itself)
14:26:47 <Arnia> That's a valid effect btw; but not always the one you want
14:28:52 <sbp> can has CSS background gradients please
14:29:16 <Arnia> they're so very very useful
14:29:34 <Arnia> particularly with multiple background support
14:30:01 <theresaanna> my life will be complete once multiple backgrounds are supported across the board
14:30:03 <sbp> is there a way to do gradiented CSS backgrounds without images?
14:30:22 <sbp> theresaanna: even in lynx?
14:30:53 <Arnia> sbp: what do you mean?
14:31:04 <theresaanna> sbp: lynx is not in my definition list of "across the board" :)
14:31:13 <Arnia> -webkit-gradient and -moz-linear-gradient and -moz-radial-gradient
14:31:40 <theresaanna> sbp: to me, across the board is any browser that my client has heard of
14:32:10 <sbp> http://trac.webkit.org/browser/trunk/LayoutTests/fast/gradients/simple-gradients.html?format=raw
14:32:12 <sbp> pretty
14:32:17 <sbp> theresaanna: hehe
14:33:09 <sbp> two competing functions is sadbunny though
14:33:38 <sbp> or is moz-linear-gradient effectively the same from the first argument onwards?
14:33:44 <sbp> currying isn't so bad
14:33:59 <clsn> that page doesn't work for me.
14:34:06 <sbp> you need to be using webkit
14:34:20 <clsn> I tried that; used conkeror.
14:35:05 <sbp> Conkeror is Gecko
14:35:20 <clsn> I thot it was webkit.
14:35:34 <sbp> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conkeror
14:35:38 <clsn> didn't work with FF either. I guess that's also not webkit?
14:35:40 <sbp> Wikipedia sez based on Mozilla
14:35:45 <sbp> yes, that's Gecko too
14:35:50 <clsn> ah. k.
14:36:14 <Arnia> sbp: See my recent work too
14:36:30 <sbp> yeah, I remember those had gradients and no images...
14:37:00 <Arnia> Only three non-content images in the entire UI
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14:38:40 <sbp> .title http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/8577164.stm
14:38:42 <phenny> sbp: BBC News - Search engine collects historical resources
14:39:16 <sbp> ostensibly good news for me
14:39:45 <sbp> whereas in fact, it probably won't be any good
14:40:24 <Arnia> .g historical resources
14:40:25 <phenny> Arnia: http://www.history.la.ca.us/hddirect.htm
14:40:33 <clsn> .g hysterical resources
14:40:34 <phenny> clsn: http://www.searchmedica.co.uk/search.html?q=Hysteria
14:42:54 <sbp> hmm
14:42:56 <sbp> .title http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/8580146.stm
14:42:58 <phenny> sbp: BBC News - Last supper 'has been super-sized', say obesity experts
14:44:14 <Arnia> "Professor Brian Wansink, who, with his brother Craig,..."
14:44:28 <Arnia> That strikes me as a very informal phrasing
14:44:35 <sbp> —
14:44:36 <sbp> She said: "I've had so many emails from parents and daughters, even boys, saying how much of an inspiration I am to them.
14:44:36 <sbp> "They realise they don't have to starve themselves to look beautiful.
14:44:36 <sbp> "They look at me as if I'm a role model because I'm curvy and healthy as well."
14:44:37 <sbp> —
14:44:41 <sbp> http://news.bbc.co.uk/newsbeat/hi/health/newsid_7507000/7507037.stm
14:44:50 *** MaienM|Sleep is now known as MaienM
14:49:09 <sbp> —
14:49:10 <sbp> Source: www.163.com re: Google exits China
14:49:10 <sbp> "This kind of company should definitely be cleansed from China! Don't give it any opportunity to do business in China! Do you still assume that we are in the era of the Eight-Power Allied Forces [the intervention by eight nations to end the 1900 Boxer rebellion]?"
14:49:11 <sbp> "The power, status and reputation of a country is unshakable. You are just a company that came to China not long ago and you are expecting special privileges? Nuts!"
14:49:11 <sbp> "Get out! I have never used that fart Google. Boycott the American products!"
14:49:13 <sbp> —
14:49:17 <sbp> http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/asia-pacific/8582556.stm
14:49:45 *** sbp changed the topic to: "Get out! I have never used that fart Google."
14:51:36 <sbp> the last comment quoted there is probably the best
14:51:43 <sbp> despite it coming from twitter
14:52:15 <sbp> and even though it's 311 characters
14:54:55 <sbp> 'Twenty years ago, for example, most crisps used to come in packs that were 20g. Now they are 30g, 50g or even 60g, and we are still eating the whole pack.’
14:55:04 <sbp> s/'/‘/
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15:01:14 <Monty> bah, it's kpreid again
15:03:04 *** nwalsh (~ndw@96-32-124-29.static.oxfr.ma.charter.com) has joined #swhack
15:03:04 <Monty> But what does nwalsh have to do with the price of fish?
15:06:32 <theresaanna> i really adore this bot. I can't tell you how much. so sbp, who did write Monty?
15:06:34 <Monty> MaienM|Sleep: not a 0.11
15:06:47 <Arnia> Hm... http://code.google.com/p/zen-coding/
15:07:01 <sbp> theresaanna: Jibbler (Paul Mutton)
15:07:02 <MaienM> Monty: no, a 0.108
15:07:03 <Monty> Right well ....
15:07:19 <theresaanna> thanks sbp
15:08:36 <[bjoern]> "Actually, there have been many more arrests of Federal air marshals than that story reported, quite a few for felony offenses. In fact, more air marshals have been arrested than the number of people arrested by air marshals." - http://duncan.house.gov/2009/06/22062009.shtml
15:08:37 <sbp> croeso
15:08:51 <sbp> awesome
15:09:13 <[bjoern]> Want lols, do stats.
15:09:39 <sbp> yeah
15:09:44 <sbp> “We now have approximately 4,000 in the Federal Air Marshals Service, yet they have made an average of just 4.2 arrests a year since 2001. This comes out to an average of about one arrest a year per 1,000 employees.”
15:10:15 <[bjoern]> http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/mar/19/raj-patel-colbert-report-benjamin-creme
15:10:18 <Arnia> sbp: random welsh?
15:10:20 <[bjoern]> .title
15:10:23 <phenny> [bjoern]: I'm not the messiah, says food activist – but his many worshippers do not believe him | World news | The Guardian
15:10:47 <sbp> nah, I was thanked, so I said you're welcome
15:11:00 <sbp> the you're is elided in colloquial Welsh
15:11:07 <sbp> probably formal Welsh too for all I know, but usually not
15:11:11 <Arnia> sbp: yes I know what croeso means, but why in Welsh? :)
15:11:14 <sbp> usually it's five times longer
15:11:20 <sbp> because I normally reply "yw"
15:11:27 <[bjoern]> "A suspected al Qaeda organizer once called "the highest value detainee" held at Guantanamo Bay was ordered released by a federal judge Monday" (lack of evidence)
15:11:28 <sbp> which is actually a pun, because it means yes in Welsh too
15:11:29 <clsn> which is also welsh...
15:11:35 <sbp> so I thought I'd go the whole hog, yeah
15:11:40 <Arnia> ah, that makes more sense :)
15:12:03 * [bjoern] forgot to sign the Charta Against Welsh Puns
15:12:23 <sbp> bilingual puns
15:13:50 <[bjoern]> Not long until you'll ask once more what Mooring is
15:15:32 * Arnia listens to http://ocremix.org/remix/OCR01466/ again
15:16:44 <sbp> we've got to start Bökingharder
15:17:15 <[bjoern]> 'Stephen Byers describing himself as "sort of like a cab for hire."' - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2010_Cash_for_Influence_Scandal
15:17:29 <Arnia> So he likes people riding him?
15:17:36 <Arnia> Or people taking him for a ride?
15:21:22 <[bjoern]> "Google Is Hiring Bond Traders" how unexpected
15:21:45 <sbp> you lie. how unexpected
15:23:34 <Arnia> "Google founds space agency"
15:24:11 <Arnia> "Google founds tanning salon"
15:24:18 <Arnia> "Google buys Tesco"
15:24:32 <[bjoern]> Funny would be "Google's taking a sabbatical; servers powered down"
15:25:34 <sbp> "Google discovers lost department in the Andes"
15:25:53 <Arnia> "Google recovers data from Atlantis data centre"
15:26:46 <Arnia> "Google Wonderland in conflict with government; executives fear losing their heads"
15:27:14 <sbp> "Google filches public, self"
15:28:35 * Arnia listens to Gay Super Mario Bros 2 remix
15:28:42 <sbp> I like how in old folk songs if things don't rhyme, they just add -o to the word
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15:38:32 <[bjoern]> "Google datacenter moves into the Bernsteinzimmer."
15:39:16 <[bjoern]> I like how http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amber_Room has coordinates.
15:41:01 <sbp> —
15:41:03 <sbp> On 20 February 2008, German treasure hunters claimed to have found the Amber room.[1] The discovery of an estimated two tons of gold or silver was made at the weekend when electromagnetic pulse measurements located the man-made cavern 20 meters underground near the village of Deutschneudorf on Germany's border with the Czech Republic.[2]
15:41:03 <sbp> Opening the cavern to get into the chamber can not be completed until approximately mid-April because it may contain booby traps and has to be secured by explosives experts and engineers.[3]
15:41:05 <sbp> —
15:41:09 <sbp> whatever happened to that?
15:42:55 <[bjoern]> You could use http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Update to find out
15:44:22 <[bjoern]> the de.wp article mentions not much of this
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15:45:15 <sbp> most of the de.wp article was stolen and buried in an as yet unidentified pit close to the German-Czech border
15:46:56 <[bjoern]> Deutschneudorf: back in january they were digging, completed 5 of 7 meters. no news since apparently.
15:47:54 * jeanniecool apologizes to SeanB and theresaanna for her error
15:47:56 <sbp> they're too lazy to dig ten metres more soil to reach millions and millions of euros worth of one of the most persistent artefactual mysteries in the world eh?
15:48:07 <jeanniecool> Who IS Monty's daddy, then?
15:48:09 <Monty> U+2767 ROTATED FLORAL HEART (â?¦)
15:48:12 <jeanniecool> Aaron?
15:48:13 <sbp> Jibbler (Paul Mutton)
15:48:20 <[bjoern]> Think of it as an extended tea time, perhaps.
15:48:27 <jeanniecool> Ah. Danke.
15:48:27 <sbp> hehe
15:48:33 <sbp> "Builders at Work"
15:48:58 <sbp> perhaps they're scared of the booby traps
15:49:15 * jeanniecool has never heard of the Amber Room
15:49:24 <jeanniecool> More info plzkthx.
15:49:31 <sbp> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amber_Room
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15:50:54 <sbp> she brings us good tidings, tells us no lies!
15:51:06 <sbp> she sucks the little birds' eggs to keep her voice clear
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15:54:06 * jeanniecool clears her throat
15:54:08 <jeanniecool> PENIS!
15:54:15 * theresaanna claps
15:54:17 * jeanniecool beams
15:54:30 <theresaanna> feeling better today, jeanniecool?
15:54:35 <jeanniecool> No.
15:54:37 <theresaanna> :(
15:54:37 <Arnia> http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/03/22/semantic_web_tbl/
15:54:41 <Arnia> .title
15:54:41 <phenny> Arnia: Greatest Living Briton gets £30m for 'web science' • The Register
15:54:57 * jeanniecool hearts SeanB, though, so any attention he pays her makes her feel better
15:55:37 * Arnia nukes the author
15:56:58 * sbp attends to jeanniecool
15:59:15 <jeanniecool> w00t!
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16:37:05 <Monty> welcome, m4rk
16:39:39 <jeanniecool> Apparently, dancing attendance on me takes all of SeanB's focus and makes the channel go dead.
16:39:49 <jeanniecool> Well, except for Monty, and we all know he doesn't count.
16:39:53 <Monty> if (Whomp's Fortress == Judge Judy) { castration respects cut-and-paste injunction;}
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16:44:03 <Arnia> That was almost coherent
16:48:36 <sbp> yeah we have to say things for the channel to say brimming
16:49:59 <sbp> I would just like to say that I looked up the word "faredy" in the OED
16:50:14 <sbp> because I figured perhaps "fare thee" had been fossilised in it
16:50:55 <Arnia> Were you correct?
16:50:58 <sbp> no
16:51:26 <sbp> but I did find this weird Carlyle quote under fare:
16:51:27 <sbp> fig. 1837 CARLYLE Fr. Rev. II. v. v, Altars..changing to the Gobel-and-Talleyrand sort, are faring by rapid trans~mutations toshall we say, the right Proprietor of them?
16:52:20 <sbp> from The French Revolution
16:52:29 * jeanniecool is unable to parse that, even
16:52:38 <sbp> .g Gobel and Talleyrand
16:52:39 <phenny> sbp: http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/14434b.htm
16:52:46 <jeanniecool> Also, SeanB, speaking of words that sound a bit dirty: fricative
16:53:26 <sbp> Gobel and Talleyrand were figures in the revolution it seems
16:53:35 <sbp> well fricative is dirty
16:55:48 <sbp> Carmichael, Robert Daniel
16:55:48 <sbp> Introduction to the theory of groups of finite order 1937
16:55:48 <sbp> Carnap, Rudolf
16:55:48 <sbp> Meaning and necessity: a study in semantics and modal logic 1947
16:55:57 <sbp> stupid 20th century
16:56:36 <sbp> I hate the Buzzword and Buzzword: Boring Subject title pattern
16:56:48 <sbp> amused to see it stretches back to at least 1947 though
16:57:30 <sbp> Feminism and Establishment: the ethics of gender
16:58:17 <sbp> Logic and Taste: salient meta-characteristics observed in chemus witches
16:58:56 <sbp> Pinky and Perky: a tale of two piggies
17:00:22 <sbp> come on guys, you can't complain that the channel has gone silent and then expect me to arc-boutant it singlehandedly
17:00:45 <clsn> Here, read these. http://www.guardian.co.uk/news/gallery/2007/aug/22/religion.usnews?picture=330615243
17:00:56 <sbp> heh, Villard de Honnecourt sketched a perpetual motion device
17:00:59 <sbp> clsn: ooh, thanks
17:01:56 <jeanniecool> Firefly and Serenity: How I'm Spending My Day
17:02:52 <sbp> some of those suck, and some are really funny
17:02:59 <sbp> but, I can't help thinking they're ALL shopped!
17:03:19 <sbp> they should have called it Snugglefly
17:04:02 <clsn> I once saw a church sign that read "Yabba Dabba Doo, God Loves You!" Ugh.
17:04:08 <clsn> That one wasn't shopped, I saw it in person.
17:04:11 <sbp> I like that one
17:05:12 <clsn> for some values of "like".
17:05:59 <clsn> Best one I saw recently was "Honk if you love God. Text if you want to meet Him."
17:06:23 <sbp> wonder if any have ever said "Ἐν ἀρχῇ ἦν ὁ Λόγος, καὶ ὁ Λόγος ἦν πρὸς τὸν Θεόν, καὶ Θεὸς ἦν ὁ Λόγος."
17:06:39 <sbp> there are never enough ῇ's in the box
17:08:53 <clsn> Dang. I managed to recognize and understand that.
17:09:13 <sbp> hehe
17:10:09 <clsn> Read much of the http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orbis_Pictus this morning; Google Books has a scan of Latin/English version. Actually pretty cool, in a narrow, biased 17th-century sort of way.
17:10:25 <clsn> And I keep finding myself thinking that Latin is Cool. I ought to learn Latin better. And write stuff in it.
17:11:53 <sbp> Greek is better
17:12:33 <clsn> I like how Latin was used semi-successfully as a Lingua Franca even after people started actually Discovering Shit.
17:12:39 <sbp> Latin vs. Greek is the real vi vs. emacs
17:12:44 <jeanniecool> clsn, the "text if you want to meet him" is fawking brilliant.
17:12:50 <clsn> I know, isn't it?
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17:13:11 <Arnia> Interesting subject
17:13:13 <Arnia> not boring
17:13:17 * Arnia nukes sbp
17:13:19 <sbp> hehe
17:13:40 <sbp> I'll bet the way he writes about it is boring
17:14:00 <sbp> then again, perhaps the title pattern wasn't yet cliché
17:14:27 <Arnia> nü
17:15:45 <sbp> http://www.greenpeace.org.uk/files/po/b-index.html
17:15:45 <Arnia> This composer is so minimalist his pieces don't even have titles; they just have opus numbers
17:15:56 <sbp> Greenpeace anti-Nestle campaign
17:17:06 <BigJibby> "Germany's official cyber-security response team - BurgerCERT"
17:21:35 <sbp> .wik Paulinus of Nola
17:21:35 <phenny> "Saint Paulinus of Nola, also known as Pontius Meropius Anicius Paulinus[1]| (Bordeaux, ca. 354 – June 22 431 in Nola, outside Naples) was a Roman Senator who converted to a severe monasticism in 394." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paulinus_of_Nola
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17:25:02 <sbp> http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/3/35/Carnet_Francesco_di_Giorgio_Martini.jpg
17:26:55 <sbp> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Star_fort
17:29:35 <sbp> "They were built of many materials, usually earth and brick, as brick does not shatter on impact from a cannonball like stone does." - how come? you'd think it would
17:29:46 <sbp> perhaps because the mortar is weak, it just breaks apart
17:29:52 <sbp> but you'd kinda think that would be about as bad
17:31:07 <jeanniecool> "Snugglefly", SeanB?
17:32:20 <clsn> sbp: so at [citation needed] ? :)
17:32:49 <sbp> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Filippo_Brunelleschi#Invention_of_linear_perspective
17:33:03 <sbp> jeanniecool: presume you're going to snuggle up watching it
17:33:16 <jeanniecool> Yes, a bit.
17:33:35 <jeanniecool> Would be nicer, though, if I had someone with whom to snuggle up.
17:34:05 <sbp> "Curiously, Brunelleschi intended that it only be observed by the viewer holding the unpainted back of the picture against his/her eye with one hand, and a mirror in the other hand facing and reflecting the painted side." - I don't understand why
17:34:56 <clsn> Artists. Go figure.
17:35:11 <sbp> sounds good, despite being yet another rotten example of the title pattern: Kemp, Martin, “Science, Non-science and Nonsense: The Interpretation of Brunelleschi's Perspective” in Art History 1 (2) (1978), 134-161
17:35:55 <clsn> "Buzzwords and Titles: sbp's Annoyance at Stupid Title Patterns" — film at 11.
17:36:01 <sbp> hehe
17:37:44 <sbp> can't find it online
17:37:45 <Monty> Here
17:37:55 <sbp> NO IT' S NOT HERE
17:38:21 <Arnia> There
17:38:50 <jeanniecool> You should stick to porn.
17:38:55 <jeanniecool> You know, penis & such.
17:39:33 <sbp> Buzzcocks and Titties: sbp's Annoyance at Stupid Porn Patterns
17:39:41 <Arnia> Penis & Such sounds like a very high market sex shop
17:39:52 <sbp> Est. 1783
17:39:57 <Arnia> With a sign done using Baskerville
17:40:12 <sbp> renamed from Phallus & Cetera in 1903
17:40:43 <Arnia> hah
17:41:00 * jeanniecool giggles
17:42:05 <sbp> .wik Thales of Miletus
17:42:06 <phenny> "Thales of Miletus (pronounced /ˈθeɪliːz/; Greek: Θαλῆς, Thalēs; c. 624 BC – c. 546 BC) was a pre-Socratic Greek philosopher from Miletus in Asia Minor, and one of the Seven Sages of Greece." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thales_of_Miletus
17:42:11 <sbp> clever chap
17:42:45 <jeanniecool> You, too!
17:43:28 <clsn> (OK, checks out, Arnia. Yes, was making sure that Baskerville indeed predated 1783 so that the sign could have been set therein. Baskerville himself died in 1775(
17:43:30 <clsn> )
17:44:11 <Arnia> )
17:44:18 <jeanniecool> dorks++
17:44:34 <Arnia> jeanniecool: interestingly, numbers are functions that may be applied
17:44:46 <clsn> OCD much? (yes, occasionally)
17:44:46 <sbp> “Thales represents something new in method as well. Edmund Husserl attempts to capture it as follows. Philosophical man is a new cultural configuration based on a rejection of tradition in favor of an inquiry into what is true in itself; that is, an ideal of truth. It begins with isolated individuals such as Thales, but they are supported and cooperated with as time goes on.”
17:45:28 <Arnia> .wik natural numbers object
17:45:28 <phenny> "In category theory, a natural number object (NNO) is an object endowed with a recursive structure similar to natural numbers." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Natural_numbers_object
17:45:59 * clsn gotcher recursive structure endowments right here...
17:47:01 <Arnia> For recursive structure endowments visit Penis & Such, 12 Soho-square, Westminster
17:47:59 <clsn> If anyone anything lacks / He'll find it all ready in stacks / If he'll only look in / on the resident djinn / number seventy, Simmery Axe!
17:48:29 <jeanniecool> Dammit, clsn - you beat me to that one.
17:48:32 <jeanniecool> st00pid lag.
17:48:37 * jeanniecool thinks she got it from SeanB
17:48:49 <clsn> Wow, cool, and here I was wondering if anyone would even get the reference, let alone want to type it also.
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17:49:04 <jeanniecool> er, the endowments joke.
17:49:12 <jeanniecool> The limerick was all you. ;-)
17:49:28 <clsn> oooOOoh. :) Heh, not a limerick.
17:49:42 <clsn> Line from Gilbert and Sullivan, _The Sorcerer_.
17:50:13 <clsn> But you're right, it is exactly the form of a limerick. I never noticed that.
17:50:34 <sbp> "If you wish to represent a figure in the corner of a dwelling which shall appear to have been made in a level place, get someone to strip naked, and with the light of a candle make their shadow fall as you wish in the said corner, and draw the outline of it with charcoal; but your sight will wish to be in the spot exactly through a hole placed where the light passed."
17:50:39 <sbp> — Leonardo
17:50:49 <clsn> Not all the song is limerick-form.
17:51:42 <clsn> Not sure why you need someone to strip naked for that. Apart from just being fun.
17:51:43 <jeanniecool> ah, okay.
17:52:04 <sbp> so you can re-clothe them in your mind
17:52:16 <jeanniecool> ...that seems a little backwards, SeanB.
17:52:28 <jeanniecool> but, you know...
17:52:32 <jeanniecool> ...for science!!!
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17:54:35 <Arnia> sbp: http://thenextweb.com/lifehacks/files/2010/03/WorkingMethods.png (via Ulises)
17:55:04 <Arnia> jeanniecool: Leonardo was a horny devil
17:55:47 <jeanniecool> Okay, sure, but I was referring to SeanB. :-)
17:56:45 <sbp> Schiller: amusing
17:57:01 <clsn> Ibsen is interesting.
17:59:21 <Arnia> Cheever is bizarre
17:59:25 <sbp> I thought Ibsen was a bit of a cock?
17:59:44 <sbp> intellectually speaking
17:59:54 <Arnia> sbp: he enjoys torturing portraits; I'd say this backs that up
18:00:01 <sbp> good point
18:00:35 <Arnia> Hemmingway seems sensible
18:00:47 <Arnia> As does Keats
18:03:29 <sbp> Keats met Wordsworth once
18:03:40 <sbp> Wordsworth was talking, and Keats interrupted to ask a question
18:03:51 <sbp> the room stopped. Dorothy Wordsworth took him aside
18:04:04 <sbp> and said, "why, Mr. Keats! surely you know that Mr. Wordsworth is NEVER interrupted?"
18:04:16 <sbp> Keats met Coleridge once
18:04:30 <sbp> Coleridge said he met Keats out walking around Highbury and said a few words to him
18:05:05 <sbp> Keats said he met Coleridge out walking around Highbury and that Coleridge said some astounding list of topics to him. Keats is the only person I can recall who actually remembered all of the topics that Coleridge broached with him
18:05:25 <sbp> they must have been chatting (Coleridge must have been talking) for well over an hour
18:06:05 <Arnia> Did Keats like Coleridge?
18:06:28 <sbp> Keats did. Coleridge was a very amiable chap
18:07:37 <sbp> Keats did not like Byron on the other hand
18:07:45 <sbp> Byron was even ruder to him than Wordsworth
18:08:09 <Arnia> yeah, Byron and Wordsworth both seem like cocks to me
18:08:44 <sbp> I don't really get Wordsworth
18:08:50 <sbp> he was very snooty, but I don't really know why
18:08:56 <Arnia> I don't get his popularity
18:08:57 <sbp> I think he was excessively isolative
18:09:09 <jeanniecool> He was a fashionista.
18:09:18 <jeanniecool> But had a smart daughter. :-)
18:09:18 <sbp> well his early poetry was good
18:09:38 <sbp> then he got famous, but his quality declined immensely
18:09:46 <sbp> but his fame then carried him, which is always unfortunate
18:10:02 <Arnia> were the two linked do you think?
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18:10:10 <Monty> yo shepazu!
18:10:13 <Arnia> http://flowingdata.com/2009/01/08/animated-map-shows-one-year-of-edits-to-openstreetmap/
18:10:30 <sbp> I'm not sure what caused his decline
18:10:35 <sbp> possibly it wasn't his decline
18:10:45 <sbp> I think Dorothy was a major source of inspiration to him
18:11:00 <sbp> he soaked up a lot of her poetic ideas and used them
18:11:17 <sbp> I do notice the decline happened after his marriage, perhaps that caused the problem
18:11:44 <sbp> so either Dorothy lost the knack, or she stopped communicating it as much, etc.
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18:11:58 <sbp> Wordsworth had immense rendering ability
18:12:11 <sbp> but I do think of them more as a team than traditional literary history teaches
18:12:52 <jeanniecool> B/c it's sexier.
18:15:56 <sbp> not really
18:16:01 <sbp> they were brother and sister... :-)
18:16:06 <jeanniecool> Oh.
18:16:17 * jeanniecool thought maybe Doro was the wife
18:16:34 * jeanniecool clearly doesn't really know byron, she was just going from the context above :-P
18:16:39 <clsn> I thought so too.
18:18:20 <sbp> jeanniecool: especially since we're talking about Wordsworth!
18:18:28 <jeanniecool> ...
18:18:37 <sbp> hehe
18:18:38 * jeanniecool is not as well versed in the poets as SeanB :-(
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18:18:50 <sbp> good pun though
18:19:03 <jeanniecool> danke
18:20:35 <[bjoern]> http://www.nydailynews.com/news/2010/03/19/2010-03-19_computer_snafu_behind_repeated_raids_on_bklyn_couples_home_the_8year_glitch.html
18:21:51 <jeanniecool> So, SeanB, wanna come over and cuddle?
18:22:57 <sbp> are we watching Firefly?
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18:25:59 * jeanniecool nods
18:26:23 <sbp> you know I still have to mug somebody
18:26:27 <jeanniecool> Or whatever you want.
18:26:32 <jeanniecool> Well, get on it, already.
18:26:41 <sbp> Bridges of Madison County?
18:27:15 <jeanniecool> ...
18:27:17 <sbp> Bridges of Madison County?
18:27:19 <jeanniecool> ...if that pleases you.
18:27:24 <sbp> Bridges of Madison County?
18:27:28 <sbp> yay
18:27:39 * jeanniecool smacks SeanB, as he appears to be stuck
18:27:49 <sbp> oof | ow
18:28:55 <nslater> i find the relationship between w and d to be quite interesting
18:29:08 <jeanniecool> Wallace and Dromit?
18:29:23 <nslater> whatever pleases you
18:30:02 <jeanniecool> w00t!
18:30:13 * jeanniecool takes shameless advantage of nslater
18:30:25 <nslater> perhaps that's what i want you to do?
18:30:43 <nslater> in which case, i have taken meta-advantage of you in manipulatig you into thinking you're taking advantage of me
18:31:20 <jeanniecool> tee hee
18:31:27 <nslater> from memory, w&d go to germany for a while, and live in a cottage writing stuff together in isolation
18:32:10 <jeanniecool> Who are W&D, nslater?
18:33:38 <nslater> wordsworth and dorothy
18:33:44 <jeanniecool> ah, okay
18:34:17 <nslater> at the time, i was struck by how... lovely it sounded
18:34:21 <nslater> anyway, from the wikipedia entry
18:34:22 <nslater> "In 1829 she fell seriously ill, and was to remain an invalid for the remainder of her life"
18:34:29 <nslater> strange choice of words there... "invalid"
18:37:10 <sbp> meanwhile Coleridge stayed with Germans and soaked up the culture
18:37:20 <sbp> and then went to university there, heh
18:37:21 <jeanniecool> ...and the drugs.
18:38:31 <nslater> he tries to convince them to leave with him back to england doesn't he? but they refuse
18:39:09 <sbp> I thought they went back first
18:39:30 <nslater> oh, i may have it the other way around. in my memory, they basically holed themselves up and refused to budge for him
18:39:58 <nslater> he stayed with them for a while, and maybe tried to get them to come with him as he left?
18:40:03 <nslater> my memory is very sketchy. heh
18:40:22 <nslater> WE'RE INVENTING HISTORY FOLKS. HOLD ON TO YOUR PANTS
18:40:31 <nslater> (i was going to say "seats", but "pants" is funnier"
18:40:35 <nslater> """"
18:40:36 <nslater> )))(
18:40:37 <nslater> "
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18:41:42 <jeanniecool> penis
18:42:02 <nslater> if i said penis, then the girls in the room would have to hold onto someone else's penis
18:42:21 <nslater> which in retrospect may have been a better decision on my part. oh well
18:45:29 * jeanniecool snorks
18:53:28 <jeanniecool> penis?
19:16:49 <jeanniecool> phenny, tell joiito you really need to come to town; I need an updated photo, kthx.
19:16:49 <phenny> jeanniecool: I'll pass that on when joiito is around.
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19:28:33 <Monty> it's [bjoern]!
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19:58:22 <nsh> .ety gantry
19:58:22 <phenny> "1574, originally, 'four-footed stand for a barrel,' probably from O.N.Fr. gantier, from O.Fr. chantier, from L. cantherius 'rafter, frame,' from Gk. kanthelios 'pack ass,' so called from the framework placed on its back, from kanthelion 'rafter,' of unknown origin." - http://etymonline.com/?term=gantry
20:11:22 <archels> Does Silverlight work on the iPad?
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20:40:59 <[bjoern]> Norwegians around?
20:41:08 <[bjoern]> Where the fuck is xover anyway?
20:42:42 <sbp> clearly he got eaten by the Swedemonster
20:43:04 <[bjoern]> I told him to keep away from the blondes.
20:45:06 <sbp> whoever follows that advice?
20:47:05 <jeanniecool> Fools?
20:47:25 <[bjoern]> Unlikely.
20:49:12 *** sivy_lunch is now known as sivy
20:53:15 <[bjoern]> Any ideas how to store a secret in the browser so that js can freely read it if it knows some code that is not removed when you clear your cookies and such, other than writing a plugin?
20:53:29 <[bjoern]> Hmm with Opera userjs might be an option
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20:54:24 <[bjoern]> some obscure css might do, too
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23:02:26 <Monty> hi shepazu, how ya doing?
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