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01:20:14 <Monty> welcome, MoiraA
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02:30:59 <theresaanna> Monty: I'm lonely, please keep me company
02:31:01 <Monty> halfpennyworth castrates superfluity!
02:31:55 *** nsh changed the topic to: "<Monty> halfpennyworth castrates superfluity!"
02:32:15 <theresaanna> Monty, I never knew you were an economic philosopher
02:32:18 <Monty> process myself erlang spidermonkey seem to index or finding the way.
02:32:51 <nsh> Monty, i'd pick seeming to index while *secretly* finding the way
02:32:51 <Monty> dtm's ethics.
02:33:09 <nsh> monty, Deutsche Tourenwagen Masters?
02:33:11 <Monty> singular database of mechanical sympathy
02:33:20 <nsh> ++
02:34:23 <nsh> Monty, ever atavistic to your Elizaian roots...
02:34:24 <Monty> 265. on hole 8.
02:35:19 <nsh> 8-bit par indicates 2-bit golf, Monty
02:35:20 <Monty> under-age Panther Clipper.
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02:44:50 <nsh> phenny, tell sbp http://www.meta-synthesis.com/webbook/35_pt/janet_more.png
02:44:50 <phenny> nsh: I'll pass that on when sbp is around.
02:45:28 <nsh> phenny, tell sbp from the periodic table of periodic tables: http://www.flickr.com/photos/bk/4455590301/
02:45:28 <phenny> nsh: I'll pass that on when sbp is around.
02:46:40 <nsh> this one looks good: http://www.visual-literacy.org/periodic_table/periodic_table.html
02:46:41 <nsh> .title
02:46:44 <phenny> nsh: A Periodic Table of Visualization Methods
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03:31:31 <BigJibby> Monty, hi
03:31:33 <Monty> I'd expect: /usr/bin/curl-config
03:31:45 <BigJibby> Monty, no thanks
03:31:45 <Monty> brb
03:32:37 <BigJibby> Monty, back yet?
03:32:38 <Monty> doc on mac
03:32:50 <BigJibby> Monty, why?
03:32:53 <Monty> mugshot's nine spheres drinks graveyard's repulsive Coca-Cola.
03:33:04 <BigJibby> Monty, that is sick.
03:33:07 <Monty> beacuse you'll like cocks to hear is very badly
03:33:24 <BigJibby> Monty, wtf?
03:33:29 <Monty> In my opinion, mystifying Micronesian Muttley eats utilising home-brewed Yoshimitsu!
03:34:02 <BigJibby> go away again Monty
03:34:02 <Monty> Please go on.
03:34:12 <BigJibby> you leave Monty
03:34:16 <Monty> Thesedays, schematic porno Chicken McNuggets destroys emotive wishlist crayons ;)
03:34:44 <BigJibby> ok Monty. Now you are just dumb
03:34:45 <Monty> 0001e790 T _curl_easy_perform
03:35:03 <BigJibby> Monty, curl isn't even installed, dude!
03:35:03 <Monty> What does that suggest to you ?
03:35:13 <BigJibby> you're an idiot, Monty
03:35:14 <Monty> ostrich == magic wands;
03:54:27 <nsh> .gs * apparatchik
03:54:28 <phenny> * apparatchik: soviet (4), of (4), term (3), stale (3), neocon (3), era (3), (3)
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04:14:29 <nsh> .ety excoriate
04:14:29 <phenny> "mid-15c., from L.L. excoriatus, pp. of excoriare 'flay, strip off the hide,' from L. ex- 'off' + corium 'hide, skin.' Figurative sense of 'denounce, censure' first recorded in English 1708." - http://etymonline.com/?term=excoriate
04:14:36 <nsh> right
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05:09:06 <MoiraA_> nsh are you good at bbcode xss?
05:09:24 <nsh> not in the slightest sorry
05:09:49 <MoiraA_> nothing much on google it's so outdated
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07:02:04 <Monty> howdy, nogagplz
07:02:15 <nogagplz> hi Monty
07:02:22 <Monty> http://pastie.org/882138 Map phase works, ReReduce fails... Any ideas and know of photochemical effects[1]|." - they say it starts today :-)
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11:56:55 <[bjoern]> .ety frolick
11:56:56 <phenny> Can't find the etymology for "frolick". Try http://etymonline.com/?search=frolick
11:57:31 <[bjoern]> .ety frolicked
11:57:31 <phenny> Can't find the etymology for "frolicked". Try http://etymonline.com/?search=frolicked
11:57:39 <[bjoern]> fail
11:57:59 <[bjoern]> .leo frohlockend
11:58:00 <phenny> frohlockend = crowing a., exultant a., rejoicing a., rejoicingly adv.
11:58:01 <phenny> — http://dict.leo.org/ende?search=frohlockend
11:58:29 <[bjoern]> .ety frolic
11:58:29 <phenny> "1530s, as an adj., from M.Du. vrolyc (adj.) 'happy,' from vro- 'merry, glad,' + lyc 'like.' Cognate of Ger. fröhlich 'happy.' The verb is first attested 1580s." - http://etymonline.com/?term=frolic
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12:27:51 <sbp> yo
12:32:16 <[bjoern]> nuyo
12:32:29 <[bjoern]> And this time I mean it!
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13:07:12 <sbp> what, not even!
13:08:29 <[bjoern]> Odd is not valid criticism on swhack.
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13:15:29 <jeanniecool> penis is, though.
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15:36:56 <Monty> welcome, monkinetic
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18:39:19 <jeanniecool> Such a quiet morning, #swhack- and penis-wise.
18:40:00 <theresaanna> hey jeanniecool
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18:40:13 <jeanniecool> y0
18:57:13 <[bjoern]> For you perhaps.
18:58:46 <sbp> GREETING FELLOW SPACE EARTHLINGS
18:59:00 <[bjoern]> Fine, don't greet me then.
19:00:00 <sbp> GREETING FALLOW STORK WATCHER
19:00:22 <[bjoern]> yo.
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19:03:27 <[bjoern]> egg btw? http://wp1007209.wp014.webpack.hosteurope.de/pfalzstorch/tagesarchiv_bornheim1/tag/0932.jpg
19:03:49 <[bjoern]> does seem pretty eggish http://wp1007209.wp014.webpack.hosteurope.de/pfalzstorch/tagesarchiv_bornheim1/tag/1632.jpg
19:03:57 <sbp> woah, looks egglike
19:04:07 <sbp> two?
19:04:10 <sbp> that was quick
19:04:14 <sbp> usually we watch for weeks before eggs
19:04:17 <sbp> and it's colder this year
19:04:21 <[bjoern]> we weren't overly attentive.
19:04:51 <sbp> we should be overly attentive now
19:05:04 <sbp> I'll pay attention to pixels 1, 789, 1983247, and 182348718
19:05:13 <sbp> you pay attention to all the prime number pixels
19:05:15 <[bjoern]> .title http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/business/8584812.stm
19:05:17 <phenny> [bjoern]: BBC News - Portugal credit rating downgraded over debt concerns
19:05:21 <[bjoern]> can we buy it now?
19:05:22 <sbp> phenny can take the even numbers between 300 and 500
19:05:32 <sbp> yeah, but it's not worth it really
19:05:40 <[bjoern]> "do we have to take the males too?"
19:05:41 <sbp> I think it only has Jerez
19:05:51 <sbp> well if we own the country we can deport them
19:06:03 <sbp> bonus: would lower the crime rate
19:06:07 <sbp> and create jobs!
19:06:34 <[bjoern]> Well that's a popular sport in the country here, but not too popular with our environment.
19:06:52 <sbp> but a country with only women would have a great environment
19:06:59 <sbp> they'd clean it and keep it neat and tidy (or else)
19:07:16 <sbp> so even from that point of view this is an excellent idea
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19:08:05 <sbp> I hear there are mysterious noises in Portugal
19:08:16 <[bjoern]> "A HEATHROW security man was quizzed by police after ogling a girl colleague "naked" in a new anti-terror body scanner." - http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/2904943/Airport-security-guard-John-Laker-ogled-woman-colleague-in-body-scanner.html
19:08:23 <[bjoern]> Unpossible, they made this up!
19:08:47 <[bjoern]> "Laker, who faces the sack, was the first airport worker to be caught abusing the controversial new devices."
19:08:50 <sbp> oh yeah, I saw that too
19:09:00 <sbp> first one to be caught
19:09:00 <[bjoern]> should merit a Wikipedia article
19:09:06 <sbp> agreed. try de.wp
19:09:13 <[bjoern]> Yeah right.
19:10:36 * [bjoern] reads through http://twitter.com/wikileaks
19:11:36 *** sbp changed the topic to: "We have vinyl records of the State Dep/CIA fails. Don't think you can get away with it. You cannot. This is SwhackLeaks."
19:14:08 <[bjoern]> "To the list of the enemies threatening the security of the United States, the Pentagon has added WikiLeaks.org" - http://www.nytimes.com/2010/03/18/us/18wiki.html
19:14:33 <[bjoern]> We should shorten that to Sleaks.
19:14:37 <jeanniecool> See? It just takes a "penis" to start a conversation.
19:14:39 <sbp> Sleaks!
19:14:42 <sbp> yeah!
19:15:31 <jeanniecool> That sounds kinda dirty.
19:15:32 <[bjoern]> Outside of swhack it's often a .short. conversation though.
19:15:34 * jeanniecool likes it
19:15:36 <[bjoern]> Thanks.
19:15:42 <jeanniecool> BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA
19:15:43 <jeanniecool> :-P
19:15:55 <sbp> you mean we're all big dicks?
19:16:10 * jeanniecool has always thought so
19:16:14 * jeanniecool runs
19:16:26 <sbp> we have too
19:16:40 <sbp> official Swhack lore in a way
19:16:49 <[bjoern]> For the most of it it's properly sourced information even.
19:17:19 <jeanniecool> pix or you're lying.
19:17:52 <sbp> ask John Laker
19:18:47 * jeanniecool doesn't know who that is
19:19:02 <sbp> "A HEATHROW security man was quizzed by police after ogling a girl colleague "naked" in a new anti-terror body scanner." - http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/2904943/Airport-security-guard-John-Laker-ogled-woman-colleague-in-body-scanner.html
19:19:32 <jeanniecool> Ah.
19:19:34 <sbp> I love how, because it's the Sun, they have to say girl colleague
19:19:39 <sbp> this paper has an average reading age of 8
19:19:46 <jeanniecool> LOL
19:19:46 <sbp> I wonder if "female" comes in at 9 or so?
19:20:06 * jeanniecool is still occasionally contextually a girl
19:20:48 <sbp> Official Girl™ of the 2012 Olympics®!
19:21:14 <jeanniecool> ...me?
19:21:16 <jeanniecool> No.
19:21:18 <jeanniecool> :-P
19:21:27 <[bjoern]> Sponsored by Battling Seizure Robots.
19:24:05 <sbp> BLOO BLOO BLOO BLOO BLOO BLOO BLOO BLOO
19:24:24 <[bjoern]> And a bottle of rum.
19:24:42 <sbp> rum is useless
19:24:49 <sbp> name one cocktail with rum in it. there aren't any!
19:26:08 <jeanniecool> There are lots; they're just all nasty.
19:27:19 <[bjoern]> http://www.cocktailtimes.com/rum/ lists several
19:27:24 <sbp> I wonder how pirates even coped
19:27:53 <jeanniecool> They sailed the tropics - so lots of fresh juice to attempt to hide it.
19:28:01 <jeanniecool> also, no scurvy.
19:28:59 <sbp> but what did they do when they wanted a cocktail umbrella?
19:29:27 <jeanniecool> Carved one from the bones of their enemies, and stuck a parrot feather in it.
19:29:43 <jeanniecool> Interestingly, the origin of the word "parrosol", though the spelling was later corrupted.
19:29:59 <[bjoern]> What's the sea equivalent of an urban legend?
19:30:06 <jeanniecool> ^ that.
19:30:40 <sbp> marine legend?
19:30:48 <[bjoern]> .leo Seemannsgarn
19:30:49 <phenny> das Seemannsgarn = cock-and-bull story
19:30:50 <phenny> Seemannsgarn spinnen = to yarn (coll.)
19:30:51 <phenny> — http://dict.leo.org/ende?search=Seemannsgarn
19:31:01 <sbp> Sea man's yarn?
19:31:08 <jeanniecool> Yeah, "marine legend" is better.
19:31:09 <[bjoern]> .leo Garn
19:31:11 <phenny> das Garn = thread (textil.), twine, yarn (textil.)
19:31:11 <phenny> das Core-spun-Garn = core-spun yarn (textil.)
19:31:12 <phenny> das Single-Garn = single yarn (textil.)
19:31:13 <phenny> — http://dict.leo.org/ende?search=Garn
19:31:15 <[bjoern]> yeah
19:31:22 <[bjoern]> as in, gesponnen
19:31:26 <[bjoern]> .leo gesponnen
19:31:27 <phenny> spinnen | spann, gesponnen | = to cocoon, to spin (engin.) | spun, spun |
19:31:28 <[bjoern]> .leo spinnen
19:31:28 <phenny> spinnen - nicht richtig funktionieren | spann, gesponnen | = to be on the blink
19:31:29 <sbp> yeah, no word should have "nnsg" in it
19:31:29 <phenny> spinnen (ugs.) | spann, gesponnen | = to be bonkers (coll.)
19:31:30 <phenny> — http://dict.leo.org/ende?search=gesponnen
19:31:31 <phenny> spinning = das Spinnen
19:31:32 <phenny> ABS spinning (tech.) = das ABS-Spinnen
19:31:33 <phenny> spinnen | spann, gesponnen | = to cocoon, to spin (engin.) | spun, spun |
19:31:34 <phenny> — http://dict.leo.org/ende?search=spinnen
19:31:37 <jeanniecool> Du spinnst wohl!
19:31:43 <[bjoern]> Du kannst mich mal.
19:32:24 <jeanniecool> ich weiss' nicht was das heisst.
19:32:29 <[bjoern]> Good for you.
19:32:59 <sbp> ist dies der Swhack Bonusrunde?
19:33:37 <[bjoern]> Interesting question. I refuse to answer it.
19:33:49 * jeanniecool gewinnt!
19:33:57 <sbp> I'll just take your refusal to answer as an answer
19:34:12 <jeanniecool> Was gibt's fuer Prizen? :-)
19:34:41 <[bjoern]> Für den Gewinner des Preisausschreibens gibt es ein Kilo frischen Penis.
19:34:53 <[bjoern]> ... NOT. IN UR FACE.
19:34:53 * Monty spots someone who needs to learn English...
19:34:58 <sbp> ihr Preis ist eine ungeliebte Melone baller einmal durch den Erzbischof von Salzburg eingesetzt
19:39:22 <sbp> I want to play a really big concert just so that I can scream out "earth girls are brilliant! there are no better girls than earth girls!" and see if it gets a massive cheer. that would be a proper accomplishment
19:41:47 <[bjoern]> Some in the audience might explain that to their neighbours with, He's from Gaydromeda.
19:42:30 <sbp> stupid bloody audience
19:47:59 <theresaanna> Monty++
19:48:01 <Monty> In my dreams, I tickle tartan tobacco?
19:48:11 <theresaanna> I'd like to think he was talking about the "IN UR FACE"
19:49:07 <[bjoern]> There are plenty of people with an urface.
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20:05:15 <sbp> .leo Ur
20:05:16 <phenny> rotary transformer (tech.) = der Umrichter (Abk.: UR)
20:05:17 <phenny> Ur... = ancestral a., indigenous a., primal a., primary a., primordial a.
20:05:18 <phenny> ur... auch: Ur... - Präfix = ur... also: Ur...
20:05:18 <phenny> — http://dict.leo.org/ende?search=Ur
20:06:05 <[bjoern]> Like I said.
20:06:29 <sbp> Primordial Physiognomy
20:06:31 <theresaanna> in which case we all have an urface
20:07:07 <sbp> nu
20:07:07 <[bjoern]> theresaanna has an urface, theresaanna has an urface, urface, urface!
20:07:28 <theresaanna> stop! i'm telling :p
20:07:38 <sbp> yeah, but you'd have to tell [bjoern]
20:07:56 <[bjoern]> Since when do I care.
20:07:59 * sbp sends [bjoern] to gaol
20:08:14 <sbp> which I think is jail for French people
20:08:21 <sbp> there can be no greater punishment
20:08:28 <sbp> hmm. perhaps a romantic meal with Angela Merkel
20:08:34 <[bjoern]> Yes there can be.
20:08:34 <sbp> saving that one for a really special occasion though
20:09:00 <theresaanna> I was just going to ask jeanniecool to beat you up... you're one for unjust punishment sbp :)
20:09:18 <sbp> yeah, well I like to be thorough
20:09:28 <[bjoern]> There are plenty of things I'd enjoy in exchange for sufficiently many monies.
20:09:47 <sbp> if I were forced into a romantic meal with Angela Merkel I would being along a Merkel doll and ask her to sign it
20:10:03 <sbp> that would ameleorate it to the fullest possible extent
20:10:21 <[bjoern]> I like your freudian typo
20:11:00 <sbp> that was no typo, that was stupidity
20:11:49 <[bjoern]> Brought to you by Excuse Master Palmer.
20:13:32 <sbp> they should make a chip which looks like a pizza
20:15:24 <sbp> got any Sleaks?
20:19:24 <Arnia> sbp: what's up with the pizza stuff?
20:19:52 * Arnia is actually eating a pizza right now
20:20:07 <sbp> I was just thinking that if someone made a microchip large enough, it might look like a pizza. but then I thought they should make actual chips from potatoes which are shaped like mini pizzas
20:20:29 <Arnia> that would be cool
20:20:40 <Arnia> Tater Tops
20:21:00 * Arnia should run a company that just comes up with names for things
20:22:10 <[bjoern]> I was thinking about making pizza now.
20:22:40 <[bjoern]> Arnia: it would not be entirely unreasonable to count me in.
20:22:57 <sbp> all we need now is to make theresaanna think about pizza and our pizza saturation scheme will be 100% complete. everybody present on Swhack will be imbued with subtle thoughts about pizza
20:23:14 <theresaanna> ... i.... i had pizza for lunch
20:23:18 <Arnia> Monty, pizza?
20:23:19 <Monty> we'd do it now?
20:23:21 <sbp> complete!
20:24:08 <sbp> phenny: "werden wir jemals wieder wikipedia nutzen können?????"?
20:24:08 <phenny> sbp: "we will ever again be able to use wikipedia ?????" (de to en, translate.google.com)
20:24:34 *** Arnia changed the topic to: "Swhack Pizzeria: The Home of the Tater Top"
20:26:30 *** [bjoern] changed the topic to: "Swhack Pizzeria: The Home of the Tater Top. Today's special: Swhack Pizza with Sleaks and Seemannsgarn"
20:26:42 <sbp> Swizza?
20:26:51 <[bjoern]> ...land?
20:27:00 <sbp> yeah, reminds me of a Swiss Gazza
20:29:06 <Arnia> With Swiss militants, executing attacks in perfect order?
20:29:29 <sbp> chuckle, yeah. good volleys and mortar lobs
20:29:48 <Arnia> Attacks that never make a mess
20:30:12 <[bjoern]> These days their banks are like their cheese.
20:30:34 <[bjoern]> Admirable Stick To The Meme development.
20:30:58 <Arnia> Wait? You've avoided topic drift?
20:31:04 * Arnia nukes [bjoern]
20:31:46 <sbp> woah
20:31:47 <sbp> http://cdn1.techbargains.com/icache/2010/03/23/12693717425293.jpeg
20:31:51 <sbp> USB transformer
20:32:19 <sbp> phenny: tell Morbus USB decepticon! http://www.techbargains.com/news_displayItem.cfm/202109?r1=1
20:32:19 <phenny> sbp: I'll pass that on when Morbus is around.
20:32:37 <[bjoern]> BUT WHAT IS HIS DESGINATION
20:33:24 <[bjoern]> "Please help improve this article by pruning it" ~ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Optimus_Prime_(Transformers)
20:33:52 <sbp> "Woa, awesome prect, from way back in 1997. Making shoes to make everyone level. What are the social behaviors now… “Berlin-based artist Hans Hemmert (famous for his work with balloons) threw a party where guests wore shoe-extenders to make them all the same height of 2 meters.": http://www.designverb.com/wp-content/images/2010/03/level.jpg
20:34:29 <sbp> though not everybody is wearing them
20:34:31 <sbp> so, that's a bit weird
20:34:36 <[bjoern]> It's not
20:35:10 <Arnia> Good thing no one there was over 2 metres tall
20:35:15 <Arnia> They'd need surgery
20:35:35 <[bjoern]> What do you think the shoe extenders were made of.
20:35:56 <sbp> http://cache.gawkerassets.com/assets/images/7/2010/03/500x_tumblr_kznx20xmld1qz7arro1_500.jpg
20:36:00 <sbp> (pile of shit)
20:36:25 <sbp> phenny: tell Morbus http://www.highsnobiety.com/news/2010/03/23/nathan-sawaya-brick-by-brick-at-agora-gallery-nyc/
20:36:25 <phenny> sbp: I'll pass that on when Morbus is around.
20:36:41 <Arnia> [bjoern]: brown paper and paste
20:38:23 <sbp> http://cdn1.techbargains.com/icache/2010/03/18/12689350782407.jpeg
20:38:32 <sbp> I never noticed before, but the Starbucks girl is kinda hot
20:39:13 <Arnia> Mermaid isn't she?
20:39:24 <Arnia> That is repulsive to me in so many ways...
20:39:35 <sbp> http://26.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_kzqz6b4cHh1qzpjmwo1_250.gif
20:39:46 <sbp> you don't like fishy females?
20:40:04 <sbp> and American megacorporations?
20:40:04 <Arnia> Well, apart from the obvious point there, I have a food phobia about fish
20:40:15 <sbp> and green and white logos?
20:40:28 <Arnia> It is a rather unpleasant colour
20:40:38 <sbp> anyway, you wouldn't have to eat her
20:40:38 <Arnia> I like green, but not such a shade
20:40:53 * Arnia sautés here with white wine
20:40:58 <Arnia> s/here/her
20:40:58 <[bjoern]> I think that about cyan, magenta, yellow, too.
20:41:01 <sbp> hmm, I wonder if anybody has had mermaid before
20:41:55 <Arnia> It's so dreamy, oh fantasy free me so you can't see me; no, not at all.
20:42:45 <sbp> http://static.businessinsider.com/image/4ba975077f8b9abf68090600-620-413/princeton-scientists.jpg - WHILST WE WRESTLE WITH GREEN, SCIENTISTS STRUGGLE WITH ORANGE
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20:43:34 <sbp> the woman talking to the guy in blue is saying "orange?" and he's saying "yarly" and showing her the page from the book which explains that orange
20:44:17 <sbp> http://chezlarsson.com/.a/6a00e55224287c88330120a9643fc1970b-500wi
20:45:02 <Arnia> I like how all the women there are acting like labtechs
20:45:08 <Arnia> not to be trusted with REAL SCIENCE
20:45:13 <Arnia> (just imaginary science)
20:45:56 <sbp> play science
20:46:03 <Arnia> playScience
20:46:03 <sbp> which neatly introduces the next item
20:46:09 <Arnia> (tm)
20:46:15 <sbp> ''The emergence of a jail-themed jungle gym at the Tompkins Houses in Bedford Stuyvesant has the community in an uproar. Black and Brown News, which ran this image earlier this week, did some homework and found that NYCHA was responsible for ordering it earlier this week. “I don’t think they should put that there in a neighborhood where many Blacks and Latinos go to jail," one resident of the public housing complex told BBN. "My so
20:46:15 <sbp> n will ask me, Mommy, if I go in there, will I go to jail.”' - http://www.brownstoner.com/brownstoner/archives/playground-jail-0310.jpg
20:46:47 <Arnia> hah
20:46:55 <Arnia> playJusticeSystem
20:47:42 <[bjoern]> http://media-cdn.tripadvisor.com/media/photo-s/00/1d/95/76/the-original-starbucks.jpg
20:48:35 <jsled> yes, cause kids never played cops and robbers, before.
20:49:27 <sbp> she's a hypnotist collector
20:49:31 <sbp> you are a walking antique!
20:50:03 <[bjoern]> Thank you.
20:50:03 <Monty> words there... :-) i mean, other one.
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20:55:34 <sbp> .title http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/8585407.stm
20:55:36 <phenny> sbp: BBC News - Russian maths genius Perelman urged to take $1m prize
20:55:56 <[bjoern]> I would volunteer to help him.
20:56:01 <sbp> .title http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/8583254.stm
20:56:03 <phenny> sbp: BBC News - DNA identifies new ancient human dubbed 'X-woman'
20:57:02 <sbp> chuckle: "A tiny island claimed for years by India and Bangladesh in the Bay of Bengal has disappeared beneath the rising seas, scientists in India say."
20:57:07 <sbp> I mean, it's not funny. but it is
20:57:16 <sbp> from http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/south_asia/8584665.stm
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20:58:39 <[bjoern]> I like the map
21:01:44 <Arnia> .wik Forty Signs of Rain
21:01:44 <phenny> "Forty Signs of Rain (2004) is the first book in the hard science fiction 'Science in the Capital' trilogy by Kim Stanley Robinson." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Forty_Signs_of_Rain
21:02:00 <sbp> ATTENTION, MODERN LITERATURE:
21:02:01 <sbp> http://hyperboleandahalf.blogspot.com/2010/03/milk-crisis-of-2005.html
21:02:26 <[bjoern]> You shouldn't write books with such a title if your name has more than two syllables.
21:02:27 <Arnia> It has the threat of inundation of an island in the Sundbarans as a major plot device
21:03:55 <sbp> okay this one too is super brilliant:
21:03:55 <sbp> http://hyperboleandahalf.blogspot.com/2010/03/awkward-situation-survival-guide.html
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21:07:27 <sbp> [bjoern]: http://code.google.com/p/re2/
21:08:34 <[bjoern]> Yeah I saw that the other day I think
21:09:01 <sbp> also http://blog.chromium.org/2009/02/irregexp-google-chromes-new-regexp.html
21:09:08 <sbp> which I guess you saw in 2009 or something
21:10:22 <[bjoern]> Close.
21:10:38 <sbp> Ctrl+Q
21:10:52 <Arnia> Cmd-Badger
21:11:20 <[bjoern]> Strg+Untbr
21:11:52 <Arnia> Option-Unavailable
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21:13:51 * Arnia puts [bjoern] in his Tetris torture chamber
21:14:05 <Arnia> You have to be part of my human games of Tetris
21:14:22 <Arnia> Unlike the videos you may have seen, mine is vertical
21:17:27 <sbp> which side are you on?
21:19:11 <Arnia> I'm sitting with my cat on my lap shouting instructions
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21:25:30 <Monty> Thank goodness, panni_ is back!
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21:37:00 <Arnia> [[[ We’re given a capability to allow us to solve five problems with one solution, and rather than Ian shouting out “Harrah!”, he says we must have five different solutions to the five problems, because to do otherwise is to...what?
21:37:01 <Arnia> Give up control? Fail to meet the Guinness Book of World Records for largest, most pedantic specification ever derived by man? ]]] — http://intertwingly.net/blog/2009/02/14/RDFa-in-HTML5#c1234632671
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21:47:47 <Arnia> The HTML 5 WG makes for frustrating theatre
21:49:30 <sbp> that's great
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22:09:51 <Arnia> Whilst I sometimes disagree with how Shelley goes about trying to argue this, I do agree that HTML5 needs a good extensibility mechanism
22:10:25 <[bjoern]> What don't you like about submitting a plea for feature inclusion to Google?
22:10:59 <Arnia> and I would love to see RDFa supported, if only because sometimes code in your page sometimes needs to access data in that page (I have about four problems right now that need a good solution to this; RDFa would be great)
22:12:20 <Arnia> [bjoern]: I love tying my business prospects thoroughly to the whims of a large company whose interests are best served by not allowing me to solve my problem
22:13:00 <[bjoern]> Excellent, so "HTML5" does have the desired mechanism.
22:14:58 <Arnia> I can't believe that the specification document has reached 4MB in size
22:15:23 <[bjoern]> They trimmed it?
22:15:59 <Arnia> I guess it takes a lot of text to define the entirety of the web architecture and browser implementation
22:16:31 <[bjoern]> Interesting thing is that it is shorter than an implementation of it.
22:18:07 <Arnia> After all, spec'ing 2D and 3D immediate mode bitmap graphics, 2D retained mode vector graphics, a threading mechanism for another language, a markup language for mathematics, an entirely brand new metadata mechanism (which cannot be used outside HTML5 yet, if ever), client-side SQL databases, session storage, etc. is tough
22:18:28 <Arnia> Good they're doing it in one single document. After all, it isn't like things such as accessibility need much space
22:19:11 <[bjoern]> Next you'll complain how the document is difficult to read for normal authors.
22:19:51 <Arnia> Oh I find it particularly easy to read. It is written in an obscure dialect of Etruscan right?
22:21:48 <[bjoern]> What I do know is that it is not in Mooring.
22:28:02 <Arnia> I'm trying hard to be optimistic, I mean finally IE is catching up with WebKit and Gecko... but it is frustrating to develop a long term (or even medium term) strategy when the latest version of the basic specification for web browsers is so awful
22:29:04 <[bjoern]> And in a very tight grip.
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22:40:00 <Arnia> I'm someone who is opposed to the classical interpretation of RDF thinking it dangerous and misguided and I still want RDFa because the data model is actually useful (even if it is overhyped as a solution to the problem of semantics)
22:40:44 <[bjoern]> Pity the link on http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FinePix_A202 does not work, in addition to the other issues of the article.
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22:42:55 <Arnia> Sorry for the rant
22:43:02 <Arnia> I'm just generally pissed off
22:43:16 <[bjoern]> Oh not at all, so are we all, as far as this issue goes anyway.
22:45:07 <Arnia> My needs aren't even related to the extraction of information from other people's pages. They're related to making it easy to combine information encoded within a page I'm generating with information from other sources within javascript
22:45:21 <Arnia> Ever tried doing NLP in Javascript?
22:46:03 <[bjoern]> I don't think JavaScript is a suitable language for just about any task, especially not natural language processing.
22:46:38 <Arnia> It is possible with Grammatical Frameworks but it isn't my first choice really
22:52:55 <Arnia> http://groups.google.com/group/gf-dev/browse_thread/thread/d0e4ee44a255b632
22:54:21 <sbp> "Reading cult propaganda through a film of animal urine is the new Fox News."
23:10:12 * Arnia reads sbp's propaganda
23:18:52 <sbp> .gc +SpockPunk
23:18:53 <phenny> +SpockPunk: 0
23:19:19 <[bjoern]> .wik Spock's beard
23:19:19 <phenny> "Spock's Beard is a progressive rock band formed in 1992 in Los Angeles by brothers Neal and Alan Morse." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spock's_beard
23:19:28 <[bjoern]> Is that close enough?
23:19:57 <sbp> no
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23:20:27 <Monty> But what does kpreid have to do with the price of fish?
23:22:02 <sbp> "Google says that a grown man only needs ten kisses a day"
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23:22:58 <Arnia> Google also says that natural language processing is a viable technology for small businesses and individuals
23:23:08 <Arnia> I wouldn't trust Google's advice too much
23:24:05 <[bjoern]> Google employs many blogheads who say all sorts of stuff.
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23:25:14 <Arnia> I'm still fuming slightly over HTML 5... I think it is exacerbated by that article in the Register
23:27:01 <[bjoern]> url?
23:27:26 <[bjoern]> (for the logs, I have no intentions going anywhere near htmland.)
23:28:17 <Arnia> http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/03/22/semantic_web_tbl/
23:28:19 <Arnia> .title
23:28:19 <phenny> Arnia: Greatest Living Briton gets £30m for 'web science' • The Register
23:29:47 <Arnia> Not only does it not understand (deliberately or accidentally, I'm not sure) what web science is, but it doesn't understand the Government's interest in linked data, the purpose of the linked data or the nature of academic research
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23:31:41 <Monty> hi m4rk, how ya doing?
23:32:15 <Arnia> the author also resorts to insinuations of bias when he is criticised
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23:33:48 * [bjoern] could use some of that money
23:43:40 <Arnia> .title http://infosthetics.com/archives/2010/03/anthroposts_visualizing_found_post-it_notes.html
23:43:42 <phenny> Arnia: AnthroPosts: Visualizing Found Post-It Notes - information aesthetics
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23:49:35 <Arnia> This is interesting: http://infosthetics.com/archives/2009/10/datagovuk_newspaper.html
23:50:17 <[bjoern]> indeed
