00:01:38 <sbp> —
00:01:39 <sbp> The inferred significance of these notes contrasts our current age of shortened communication "bursts", and causes the viewer to find a new appreciation in the individuality of the notes themselves.
00:01:39 <sbp> Thnkx Noah.
00:01:41 <sbp> —
00:01:42 <sbp> lols
00:02:51 <sbp> "POST IT NOTES MADE ME REALISE WE WRITE SHORT, AND I NOW UNDERSTAND THEY WERE WRITTEN BY REAL PEOPLE."
00:04:07 <Arnia> Shock and/or horror
00:04:12 <sbp> hehe
00:07:31 <sbp> the funny thing is, £30m is clearly an arbitrary figure
00:07:43 <sbp> so for example, if we used duodecimal they may have only given £20m
00:07:50 <sbp> i.e. £24m decimal
00:07:58 <sbp> so we could pick up the extra £6m ourselves
00:09:36 <Arnia> timbl seems to have gone more English again: http://infosthetics.com/archives/2010/03/tim_berners-lee_the_year_open_data_went_worldwide_ted_talk.html
00:10:06 <sbp> going English might be the latest American fad
00:10:24 <Arnia> Does that really apply to someone who IS English?
00:11:26 <Arnia> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/images/2/2c/GreaterLondon.png
00:11:30 <Arnia> Not a bad style actually
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01:13:03 <[bjoern]> .gc +Massenvernichtungsstandards
01:13:03 <phenny> +Massenvernichtungsstandards: 0
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05:52:41 <Monty> hey [bjoern]
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09:39:49 <cre8radix> oioi
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11:44:22 <sbp> yo
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11:48:42 <tav> y0!
11:48:48 <sbp> sup
11:49:46 <sbp> heh: http://toolmonger.com/2010/03/24/its-just-cool-garage-door-photo-tarpaulins/
11:51:43 <sbp> http://www.moonbattery.com/visualize-debt_small.jpg
11:53:38 <tav> identify all the thieves in the village by the big lumps on their forehead
11:54:47 <tav> nice infographic
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12:02:45 <MacTed> aside from the *very* poorly labeled bottom cell. big "Household Wealth" label when it's really comparing to the *decline* in 2009
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14:26:05 <[bjoern]> There are 2.27 popes per square kilometer in some countries.
14:41:23 <theresaanna> where does one find this intriguing fact?
14:42:11 <[bjoern]> Wikipedia. Although the addition of this fact got reverted.
14:46:56 <jeanniecool> So it's maybe not so much true, [bjoern]?
14:47:24 <[bjoern]> I have confirmed this factoid with mathematics and google.
14:47:31 <[bjoern]> So, yes.
14:47:38 <jeanniecool> Hmm.
14:47:46 <jeanniecool> Examples, plz?
14:48:10 <[bjoern]> Examples of this maybe being not much true?
14:48:39 <jeanniecool> ...I thought you just said you confirmed that it was....
14:49:25 <[bjoern]> My research does not contradict the original statement.
14:49:43 <jeanniecool> Okay.
14:49:55 * jeanniecool was asking for names of countries with a lot of popes
14:52:01 * theresaanna wants to know of the country with the most popes
14:52:56 <jeanniecool> c'mon, [bjoern], inquiring minds wanna know!
14:53:27 <[bjoern]> The point is that the vatican is only 0.44km² in size.
14:54:06 <jeanniecool> ...right.
14:54:23 <MaienM> .calc 1/0.44
14:54:24 <phenny> 1/0.44 = 2.27273
14:54:32 <appletizer> [bjoern], you could get wolfram alpha to automatically compute that for you
14:54:35 <theresaanna> that's cheating!
14:54:44 <theresaanna> that logic is quite flawed
14:54:51 <appletizer> lol
14:54:58 * theresaanna is disappointed
14:55:40 <theresaanna> I interpret this as being less than one pope per sq km in some countries
14:55:45 <theresaanna> and zero in most!
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14:56:45 <[bjoern]> phenny, tell sbp http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=1+x+%2F+0.44km%C2%B2+in+x+%2F+km%C2%B2
14:56:45 <phenny> [bjoern]: I'll pass that on when sbp is around.
14:56:55 <[bjoern]> I guess this won't do...
14:56:56 <[bjoern]> .o wa 1 x / 0.44km² in x / km²
14:57:01 <phenny> x/(0.44 km^2 (square kilometers))xinchxx/(km^2 (square kilometer)) where x = 1;5.77x10^-5 km^(-3) (per kilometers cubed);5.77x10^-14 1/m^3 (per meter to the third);Schro"dinger quantum-mechanical probability density;[length]^(-3)
14:57:05 <[bjoern]> oh it does
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14:58:55 * jeanniecool is disappointed, too :-(
14:59:43 <appletizer> .o wa 1 / area of vatican city in square kilometers
14:59:48 <phenny> 1/(convert Vatican City->total area to square kilometers);2.3 km^(-2) (per kilometers squared);2.3x10^-6 m^(-2) (reciprocal square meters);7.4x10^-23 pc/m^3 (parsecs per cubic meter);2.3x10^-43 nb^(-1) (inverse nanobarns);2.3x10^-6 meters per cubic meter;(3.987x10^47 to 4.941x10^47) cosmological constants (based on dark energy density)
15:00:05 <appletizer> it's a shame wa doesn't do number of popes in the world :/
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17:55:42 <sbp> [bjoern]: you're only counting the living popes I presume?
17:55:56 <sbp> because I expect there are quite a few buried there
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18:05:14 <[bjoern]> I liked how WA turned the simple expression into "Schrödinger quantum-mechanical probability density" and yes, I don't think dead people should run for pope.
18:05:43 <sbp> why not? politicians do
18:06:22 <[bjoern]> Blair may run for the pope, and look as if, but he is not dead.
18:06:41 <sbp> .title http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/8587082.stm
18:06:43 <phenny> sbp: BBC News - Pope accused of failing to act on sex abuse case
18:07:27 <sbp> “Billionaire buys Independent for £1”
18:09:51 <sbp> 'Prosecutors are expected to seek the death penalty, while White House Press Secretary Robert Gibbs said in January that Mr Mohammed was going to "meet his maker" if found guilty.' — http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/8587231.stm
18:09:57 <sbp> executive running the judiciary again?
18:10:49 <sbp> 'A Bulgarian official has been sacked after being caught milking a virtual cow on the hugely popular online farming game, FarmVille.' — http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/magazine/8585999.stm
18:11:23 <sbp> why didn't they just move him to the Ministry for Agriculture?
18:12:11 <clsn> Is it so important what he was doing on FarmVille, or just that he was on it during work hours or something?
18:12:20 <clsn> If he had been plowing, would that have been okay?
18:12:43 <sbp> unsure, all good questions
18:12:58 <[bjoern]> It's because "there is a 'moreishness' quality about it"
18:14:06 <clsn> Ugh, moreishness. Nobody likes moreishness.
18:14:38 <sbp> lessishness is the new moreishness
18:14:40 <[bjoern]> Not even the Mooringer.
18:15:36 <sbp> can you crush beer cans on your head?
18:17:02 <[bjoern]> I am more interested in crushing beer cans on other people's heads.
18:17:38 <sbp> eins, zwei, drei, vier, gibt es gute Reime mit Bier?
18:22:11 <[bjoern]> Are you looking for words, or for phrases?
18:22:52 <sbp> beide?
18:23:12 <[bjoern]> Then research ended in 50% failure already.
18:23:31 <sbp> quite a good failure rate really!
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20:07:28 <sbp> .title http://www.scoutingny.com/?p=1771
20:07:29 <phenny> sbp: SCOUTING NY » Something Strange in Herald Square
20:07:40 <[bjoern]> Is it a circle?
20:08:59 <sbp> http://28.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_kzthibMsPX1qzh5gno1_500.jpg
20:09:09 * theresaanna heads to Herald Square to see this for herself
20:13:17 <theresaanna> I was in Madison Square Park the other day and saw this installment: http://www.scoutingny.com/?p=1781
20:13:20 <theresaanna> i'm in love with it
20:20:34 <sbp> oh, an Antony Gormley installation
20:20:43 <sbp> didn't know about that one
20:20:58 <sbp> do you know if there have ever been any emergency calls about it?
20:28:08 <theresaanna> haha I'm sure there have been! I actually found out about it because someone had tweeted "don't call the police! its just art!"
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20:29:25 <sbp> hehe
20:29:39 <theresaanna> its a very intriguing installation
20:30:10 <sbp> you know about this one I presume? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Another_Place
20:30:18 <Arnia> sbp: http://literally.barelyfitz.com/
20:30:49 <sbp> literaturely
20:31:17 <theresaanna> sbp: i actually didn't know about that one! I would love to see it
20:31:32 <sbp> I love that, a whole blog devoted to not understanding that "literally" has developed a new sense
20:31:44 <sbp> theresaanna: you almost did, they were going to move it to NYC!
20:31:55 <theresaanna> sbp: I see that. what a shame
20:32:05 <sbp> well Liverpool needs cheering up too
20:33:21 <theresaanna> I'd bet. I think I prefer the MSP one - its sort of an eerie feeling to walk into the park, see the statue on the ground in front of you and then begin to notice the statues staring down at the city all around you
20:33:53 <sbp> they should make their eyes light up like the owls
20:33:54 <sbp> that'd be epic
20:34:29 <sbp> and possibly shoot laser beams on public holidays
20:35:01 <sbp> oh, apparently there was one in London too:
20:35:01 <sbp> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Event_Horizon_(sculpture)
20:35:05 <sbp> before the NYC ones in fact
20:35:18 <sbp> and this says that both of these installations have provoked suicide emergency calls
20:35:24 <theresaanna> i'm sure
20:35:32 <theresaanna> unless you know what you're looking at... its fairly realistic
20:35:47 <sbp> see, the laser beams would prevent that
20:35:54 <theresaanna> ha! true
20:36:11 <theresaanna> what sort of ominous symbol should the laser beams create when all statues are activated?
20:36:56 <sbp> just an epsilon or something would please me
20:36:57 <Arnia> theresaanna: look in the Book
20:37:09 <Arnia> it has a whole chapter on sigils of invocation and evocation
20:37:11 <sbp> .u 1337
20:37:11 <phenny> U+1337 ETHIOPIC SYLLABLE PHWA (ጷ)
20:37:14 <sbp> or PHWA
20:37:39 <sbp> .o glyph 1337
20:37:39 <phenny> http://www.decodeunicode.org/u+0031/data/glyph/448x448/0031.gif
20:37:43 <sbp> bad
20:37:52 <sbp> .o glyph ጷ
20:37:53 <phenny> http://www.decodeunicode.org/u+1337/data/glyph/448x448/1337.gif
20:37:56 <jeanniecool> Penis.
20:38:01 <theresaanna> Arnia: I shall keep that in mind should I ever design an art exhibit
20:38:11 <sbp> well gret, jeanniecool
20:38:35 * Arnia thinks more art installations should encode sections of thelemic texts
20:38:55 * jeanniecool just didn't want you to forget
20:39:10 <Arnia> jeanniecool: you are you
20:39:15 <Arnia> who coo coos
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20:39:22 <sbp> "Darling: Labour policies are bearing fruit"
20:39:37 <Arnia> Like the Darling buds of May?
20:39:45 * jeanniecool plucks the fruit and coos at Arnia
20:39:49 <sbp> I don't know, there are so many possible jokes I could make out of that
20:39:52 * jeanniecool is more lovely and more temperate
20:39:53 <sbp> it's almost overwhelming
20:40:08 <Arnia> sbp: I think he's looking to go into a career in political satire
20:40:19 <sbp> I can just imagine him waggling his eyebrows whilst he says it
20:40:22 <sbp> and that makes it even worse
20:40:40 <sbp> now they're interviewing a cider producer
20:40:44 <sbp> and showing apples
20:40:55 <sbp> I love how this was the most newsworthy bit of the budget
20:41:01 <sbp> that cider got a bit of duty added on it
20:41:13 <sbp> also rather links to the "bearing fruit" bit
20:41:13 <jeanniecool> ...at least it wasn't "doody"
20:41:18 <Arnia> poor people in the west country
20:41:18 <theresaanna> sbp: do you use twitter? I'd like to tweet a link to the scouting ny blog
20:41:27 <sbp> theresaanna: I don't, but I'm @sbp
20:41:29 <jeanniecool> In the fertilizing sense.
20:41:33 <sbp> early adopter and all that
20:41:33 <theresaanna> sbp: thanks :)
20:41:36 <sbp> yw
20:41:51 <sbp> say it's a RT
20:42:00 <sbp> then I might get RT'd without even having tweeted
20:42:05 <sbp> which would be splendid
20:42:18 <Arnia> Sort of a Phantom RT
20:42:19 <Arnia> PRT
20:42:23 <sbp> yeah, a vicarious twitter career in the works
20:42:23 <Arnia> which sounds like a fart
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20:42:38 <sbp> a twitteer
20:42:48 <sbp> a fart or, oddly, Ugaritic
20:42:48 <Arnia> Don't joke... look at Mr Fry
20:42:52 <Arnia> hah
20:42:54 <theresaanna> sbp: you're going to get a via :)
20:42:54 <sbp> hmm, yeah
20:42:55 <Arnia> yes actually
20:43:11 * sbp will work his way up
20:43:48 <Arnia> There should be an agency for twits (my name for people who are celebrated purely because of Twitter accounts)
20:44:26 * theresaanna sees that sbp gave up on twitter March 21, 2007
20:44:42 <sbp> I also signed up to twitter on March 21, 2007
20:44:46 <sbp> odd coincidence
20:44:52 <theresaanna> ;)
20:44:53 <sbp> well look, I didn't like that it truncated the name of my country
20:45:08 <sbp> "United Kingdom of Great Britai"? what the heck is that?
20:45:10 <theresaanna> I noticed that. quite offensive
20:45:19 <sbp> and recently it just popped up a "please amend your details" kind of form
20:45:26 <sbp> and had a nice huge field for my country name
20:45:31 <sbp> so I thought great, they've fixed it!
20:45:39 <Arnia> He gave up to celebrate my birthday
20:45:42 <sbp> entered "United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland" again
20:45:47 <sbp> and, you guessed it. still truncated
20:46:06 <theresaanna> sbp: twitter has an issue with data not actually hitting its db from time to time I've noticed....
20:46:11 <theresaanna> did you try once and give up?
20:46:11 <sbp> .py len("United Kingdom of Great Britai")
20:46:13 <phenny> 30
20:46:18 <sbp> once and gave up: of course!
20:46:21 <Arnia> United Kingdom of Great Britain, Northern Island and the Faerie Lands
20:46:23 <theresaanna> my description has certainly been longer
20:46:27 <sbp> .py len("United States of America")
20:46:27 <phenny> 24
20:46:43 <sbp> I'll try again
20:47:24 <sbp> —
20:47:25 <sbp> 1 error prohibited this current user from being saved
20:47:25 <sbp> There were problems with the following fields:
20:47:25 <sbp> Location is too long (maximum is 30 characters)
20:47:26 <sbp> —
20:47:40 <jeanniecool> Poor baby.
20:47:42 <theresaanna> that is a really poor choice
20:47:44 <[bjoern]> You've been trying to twitter again?
20:47:56 <sbp> I'm trying to start a vicarious twitteer. see backscroll
20:48:11 <Arnia> 30 is incredibly short
20:48:22 <Arnia> Monty, shortness is sexy no?
20:48:26 <Monty> mmmh, couchapp rebase branchname doesn't appear to find sample erlang anywhere?
20:48:36 <sbp> bet it's because they use a fixed byte width for that field
20:48:42 <sbp> and they're stingy as heck about bytes
20:49:03 <sbp> because hey, it's not like they have to store 140 char messages sent like a thousand times per second
20:49:07 <[bjoern]> If you can't re-explain it in 30 Unicode code points, I don't think I want to know.
20:49:22 <sbp> ጷ
20:49:55 <theresaanna> Monty could probably score a contract with some particularly clueless clients looking for development work. he sounds sufficiently technical for them at times - all you need to do is confuse them with geeky words.
20:49:57 <Monty> bees is lovesick and fourth...?
20:50:09 <[bjoern]> Third google hit for that is तศڦׇᆐၨݴဆLj༵ߛׇᆐၨऺࣄڦᆶၳႠLj༵ߛၳ୲Ljժ߸ࡻں߶ጷ࠲ ... ...
20:50:17 <[bjoern]> (on microsoft.com)
20:50:25 * jeanniecool isn't tall
20:50:31 <jeanniecool> ...does that mean I'm sexy, Arnia?
20:50:50 <[bjoern]> .gc +Standgebläse
20:50:51 <phenny> +Standgebläse: 610
20:51:32 <yano> sbp: is that ".py" feature a module or builtin to the core of phenny? I don't remember seeing a module for that.
20:51:32 <sbp> “We men and women living in modern times owe a lot to daring and admirable women who have forced their way into being considered equal, able to vote, owning property, holding jobs and countless other rights we now take for granted.”
20:51:40 <sbp> I saw some peculiar posters on campus the other day
20:51:46 <sbp> they were lists of great women throughout history
20:51:50 <[bjoern]> Unpossible.
20:51:54 <sbp> except for some reason they seemed really random
20:52:12 <[bjoern]> Ah, perhaps a printed wikipedia list article.
20:52:24 <sbp> a few obvious people that all such lists are going to contain these days like Eleanor Roosevelt... but lots of really important people left out, like Emily Wilding Davison
20:52:51 <sbp> yano: it's in oblique.py
20:53:08 <sbp> so it reminded me of...
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20:53:21 <sbp> oh, I didn't post it
20:53:23 <sbp> nnnrg
20:54:00 <Arnia> jeanniecool: are you male?
20:54:24 * jeanniecool is pretty sure not
20:54:31 <Arnia> Oh...
20:54:41 <sbp> .title http://groups.google.com/group/whits/msg/6d0e019c7bdba242
20:54:42 <phenny> Can't connect to http://groups.google.com/group/whits/msg/6d0e019c7bdba242
20:54:42 * Arnia turns to flirting with Monty
20:54:42 <Monty> people with IT
20:54:50 <jeanniecool> Are only males sexy, Arnia?
20:55:00 <sbp> hasabugz
20:55:03 * jeanniecool gets ready to pout
20:55:17 <Arnia> jeanniecool: well, some women are sexy...
20:55:51 * jeanniecool crosses her fingers
20:56:44 <sbp> .py re.compile(r'(?ims)<title[^>]*>(.*?)</title\s*>').search(' <title> \n Essex Women -\n Gallimaufry of Whits |\n Google Groups\n </title>')
20:56:46 <phenny> <_sre.SRE_Match object at 0xba26381bd3172900>
20:56:57 <sbp> .py re.compile(r'(?ims)<title[^>]*>(.*?)</title\s*>').search(' <title> \n Essex Women -\n Gallimaufry of Whits |\n Google Groups\n </title>').group(0)
20:56:57 <phenny> <title>
20:57:02 <sbp> .py re.compile(r'(?ims)<title[^>]*>(.*?)</title\s*>').search(' <title> \n Essex Women -\n Gallimaufry of Whits |\n Google Groups\n </title>').group(1)
20:57:27 <Arnia> Essex Women, new to ITV1
20:57:55 <sbp> gah, this is insane
20:57:59 <sbp> why is that throwing an IOError?
20:59:03 <Jibbler> parsing html with regexps = fail
20:59:22 <sbp> you = fail
20:59:26 <sbp> phenny: reload head
20:59:26 <phenny> sbp: <module 'modules.head' from '/var/www/inamidst.com/htdocs/phenny/modules/head.pyc'> (version: 2010-03-25 20:59:26)
20:59:33 <sbp> .title http://groups.google.com/group/whits/msg/6d0e019c7bdba242
20:59:34 <phenny> Can't connect to http://groups.google.com/group/whits/msg/6d0e019c7bdba242
20:59:44 * Arnia is proudly Central
21:01:33 * jeanniecool is proudly Pacific
21:01:57 <sbp> oh yeah, she's running on helios not gimble...
21:02:06 <Arnia> .wik Buckinghamshire
21:02:06 <phenny> "Buckinghamshire (pronounced /ˈbʌkɪŋəmʃər/ or /ˈbʌkɪŋəmʃɪər/; abbreviated Bucks) is a ceremonial and non-metropolitan home county in South East England." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buckinghamshire
21:02:15 <Arnia> bleh
21:02:22 <Arnia> I don't like it saying South East
21:02:30 <Arnia> South Central, not South East
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21:02:41 <Arnia> .wik Oxfordshire
21:02:42 <phenny> "Oxfordshire (pronounced /ˈɒksfərdʃər/ or /ˈɒksfərdʃɪər/; abbreviated Oxon, from the Latinised form Oxonia) is a county in the South East England region, bordering on Northamptonshire (to the North East), Buckinghamshire (to the East), Berkshire (to the [...]" - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oxfordshire
21:02:58 <sbp> ugh, it's a 403
21:03:05 <Arnia> .wik Berkshire
21:03:05 <phenny> "Berkshire (pronounced /ˈbɑrkʃər/ BARK-shər or /ˈbɑrkʃɪər/ BARK-sheer; abbreviated Berks) is a ceremonial county in the South East of England." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Berkshire
21:03:22 <Arnia> .wik Northamptonshire
21:03:22 <phenny> "Northamptonshire (or, archaically, the County of Northampton; pronounced /nɔrˈθæmptənʃər/ or /nɔrθˈhæmptənʃɪər/; abbreviated Northants. or N/hants) is a landlocked county in the English East Midlands, with a population of 629,676 as at the 2001 census." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Northamptonshire
21:03:46 <Arnia> .wik Hampshire
21:03:46 <phenny> "Hampshire (pronounced /ˈhæmpʃər/ or /ˈhæmpʃɪər/ ( listen)), sometimes historically Southamptonshire,[1]| Hamptonshire,[2]| (abbr." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hampshire
21:04:06 <sbp> .title http://groups.google.com/group/whits/msg/6d0e019c7bdba242
21:04:06 <phenny> sbp: Essex Women - Gallimaufry of Whits | Google Groups
21:04:07 * Arnia listens
21:04:08 <sbp> there we go
21:04:35 * treed thought that said Gallifrey at first
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21:05:38 <Arnia> sbp the Time Lord?
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21:15:56 <sbp> “A real picture of yourself is encouraged. It adds personableness to your tweets.”
21:16:01 <sbp> personableness
21:16:45 <Arnia> I have antipersonableness
21:17:05 <sbp> you should use an unreal picture of yourself
21:17:26 <sbp> no wait, subreal
21:17:51 <Arnia> superreal?
21:17:56 <Arnia> abreal
21:18:00 <sbp> abreal!
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21:19:21 <Arnia> .gc abreal
21:19:21 <phenny> abreal: 5,580
21:19:28 <sbp> I'm using the latest Chrome
21:19:33 <sbp> I tried to sign into iWork.com
21:19:40 <sbp> it said my browser is lacklustre
21:19:45 <sbp> and that I should upgrade to Safari 3
21:19:46 <sbp> hehe
21:20:10 <Arnia> Safari 3?!
21:20:14 <sbp> yeah!
21:20:20 <sbp> and it wouldn't even let me copy the error message
21:20:21 <Arnia> iWork.com is written in Sproutcore
21:20:27 <sbp> it wasn't a Javascript popup either
21:20:31 <sbp> must have been some image or something
21:20:40 <Arnia> .wik Sproutcore
21:20:40 <phenny> "SproutCore is an open-source JavaScript framework." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sproutcore
21:21:02 <Arnia> described by some as 'Apple's Flash killer'
21:22:18 <sbp> http://imagebin.ca/img/Obss1c.jpg
21:23:05 <Arnia> yeah, tis sprout core
21:25:12 * jeanniecool goes in search of fudz
21:25:28 <jsled> <jeanniecool> … and penis
21:25:58 * Arnia goes in search of brussels sprouts, chestnuts and pancetta
21:26:03 <jsled> man java is awesome.
21:26:14 * sbp goes in search of a cage for jsled
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21:26:44 <Arnia> sbp: I think he'll need a muzzle too
21:26:55 <sbp> and a rabies shot
21:27:06 <Arnia> .g coffeescript
21:27:07 <phenny> Arnia: http://jashkenas.github.com/coffee-script/
21:27:53 <jsled> http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_Xv6Yjx9z9no/SNtMfxUNu5I/AAAAAAAAANk/Ta-U7LISQQI/s1600-h/framework-flow.png CONSTITUTES THE STATE OF TEH ART FOR JAVA LOGGING>
21:28:01 <jsled> IT"S AWEOMSE AND YOU WILL BOW DOWN>
21:28:22 <Arnia> ...
21:28:29 <Arnia> Abstraction Madness
21:29:11 * jeanniecool defends joshled tirelessly
21:29:14 <jsled> partly. it doesn't help java.util.logging was stillborn, so there's still 5 viable logging frameworks. and OSGI enforces yet another layer. :/
21:29:48 <sbp> Jo Shled sounds like a yiddish cross-dresser to me
21:30:10 <jeanniecool> ...know a lot of them, do you,
21:30:16 <jeanniecool> SeanB?
21:30:22 <sbp> don't know as many as I used to
21:30:38 <Arnia> jeanniecool: he does live in the UK
21:30:53 <Arnia> jeanniecool: land of London, Manchester, Newcastle and Brighton
21:31:04 <Arnia> all of which have... interesting nights out
21:31:19 <sbp> Sunderland is pretty crazy too
21:31:30 * jeanniecool didn't realize SeanB got around that much :-P
21:31:45 <jsled> speaking of penis: http://9gag.com/gag/20094
21:32:23 <Arnia> sbp: ever been out in Sunderland?
21:32:48 <sbp> which kind of answer would you like?
21:33:13 <Arnia> one in rhyming couplets please, for nostalgia's sake
21:33:42 <sbp> http://9gag.com/gag/4481/
21:34:46 <Arnia> I like that
21:35:30 <Arnia> Sunderland is an interesting night out too
21:35:39 <Arnia> but in a different way to Newcastle even
21:36:08 <Arnia> jeanniecool: have you ever been out in Newcastle
21:36:09 <Arnia> ?
21:36:18 <sbp> the days and nights in Sunderland are great
21:36:18 <sbp> as long as you can take a bit of hate
21:36:18 <sbp> and if you can't, there's always Scunthorpe town
21:36:18 <sbp> where ladies puke at rats but never frown
21:36:51 <Arnia> .o distance Sunderland Scunthorpe
21:36:51 <phenny> Arnia: Sorry, no such service. See http://code.google.com/p/phenny-ws/wiki/ServiceDefinitions
21:36:54 <Arnia> damn
21:37:11 <jeanniecool> No, Arnia.
21:42:44 <Arnia> Shame
21:42:53 <Arnia> Newcastle is a good night out
21:43:13 <Arnia> It actually feels a lot busier than Manchester
21:43:16 * jeanniecool will take some coals when she goes
21:43:32 * Arnia nukes jeanniecool
21:45:13 <jeanniecool> :-PPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPP
21:45:46 <jeanniecool> (It was funny!)
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21:45:58 <Monty> lo danja__
21:46:04 <Arnia> I'd like to see you try that in Newcastle itself
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21:48:15 * jeanniecool doesn't know where to buy coals, ironically
21:48:39 <Arnia> Coalman?
21:49:14 <jeanniecool> I mean, except in Newcastle.
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21:50:03 * Arnia carbonises jeanniecool
21:50:28 * jeanniecool is still funny, though, just FTR
21:51:04 * Arnia expunges jeanniecool from the record
21:51:25 * jeanniecool shouts PENIS and runs to hide behind SeanB
21:53:07 <[bjoern]> Perhaps you should shout ARSE instead then.
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21:53:57 * jeanniecool isn't, like, groping it or anything!
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21:58:44 <sbp> http://9gag.com/gag/19979/
22:02:09 <sbp> .gc "Professional Cyberhunk"
22:02:10 <phenny> "Professional Cyberhunk": 0
22:02:18 <sbp> .gc "Professional Cyberpunk"
22:02:18 <phenny> "Professional Cyberpunk": 3
22:02:49 <sbp> .w cadge
22:02:50 <phenny> cadge — noun: 1. (falconry) A circular frame on which cadgers carry hawks for sale — verb: 1. (Geordie) To beg, 2. (US, British, slang) To obtain something by wit or guile; to convince someone to do something they might not normally do
22:05:17 <Arnia> .gc "Professional Cyberfunk"
22:05:18 <phenny> "Professional Cyberfunk": 0
22:05:37 <jeanniecool> .gc "professional cyberchunk"
22:05:37 <phenny> "professional cyberchunk": 0
22:06:02 <Arnia> http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/8587131.stm
22:06:04 <Arnia> .title
22:06:06 <phenny> Arnia: BBC News - Ada Lovelace voted most popular technology heroine
22:06:18 <sbp> that was the most depressing article I've read all day
22:06:28 <Arnia> I didn't realise Hedy Lamarr was a mathematician
22:06:29 <jeanniecool> why?
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22:08:21 <Arnia> .title http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/asia-pacific/8587032.stm
22:08:23 <phenny> Arnia: BBC News - China faces 'diabetes epidemic', research suggests
22:08:32 <Arnia> I wish they wouldn't conflate Type I and Type II diabetes like that...
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22:09:03 <Arnia> It is like conflating the common cold and Ebola because both present the symptom of a runny nose
22:09:37 <sbp> one big cadge
22:09:59 <sbp> some quirkies might cheer me up
22:10:52 <[bjoern]> http://www.nydailynews.com/lifestyle/health/2010/03/25/2010-03-25_facebook_blamed_for_rising_std_rates_in_britain_report.html
22:10:57 <sbp> .title http://www.ananova.com/news/story/sm_3724729.html
22:11:05 <phenny> sbp: Ananova - Bank has to count van load of cash
22:11:31 <sbp> [bjoern]: oh thanks!
22:11:34 <sbp> and it mentions Sunderland
22:12:03 <sbp> 'Facebook users should “take precautions” and be careful'
22:12:26 <sbp> always use a facedom
22:12:57 <[bjoern]> one of your worse word creations.
22:13:15 <sbp> good pix: http://www.ananova.com/news/story/sm_3723725.html
22:13:26 <sbp> yeah, but I make up for it with flamethrowing mopeds
22:13:31 <sbp> or throwpeds
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22:13:36 <[bjoern]> http://www.lancashiretelegraph.co.uk/news/5074429.6_000_trees_felled_on_outskirts_of_Darwen/
22:14:10 <sbp> "And police and councillors said the felling programme would have the added benefit of discouraging strangers from meeting up for sex at the known 'dogging' hotspot."
22:14:21 <sbp> where are you getting these news articles from?
22:14:24 <sbp> Dogging Weekly?
22:15:15 <[bjoern]> My tweetbuddies retweet these for me on facedom.
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22:16:25 * jeanniecool watches "the others"
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22:17:09 <jeanniecool> SeanB, will you hold my hand?
22:19:47 <Arnia> It is possible to turn dogging into a spectator sport
22:19:52 <sbp> are it scary?
22:20:02 <sbp> Arnia: you mean like greyhound racing?
22:20:11 <Arnia> Sackville Gardens is particularly good for this
22:20:13 <jeanniecool> YES!
22:20:57 <sbp> do doggers get annoyed when you shine LED torches at them?
22:21:09 <Arnia> Myself and friends rate pairs in terms of fake casualness, ostentatiousness, subtlety and blatantness
22:21:43 <Arnia> There is something funny about sitting in a park at 3am watching all this happen with a statue of Alan Turing staring at you
22:21:50 <sbp> heh!
22:22:40 <Arnia> .img alan turing memorial
22:22:41 <phenny> Arnia: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/b/b8/Alan_Turing_Memorial_Closer.jpg
22:22:42 <phenny> More here: http://images.google.com/images?q=alan%20turing%20memorial
22:23:08 <Arnia> They tend to be over by those far buildings
22:23:09 <Arnia> i
22:23:16 <Arnia> magine them at night
22:23:39 <sbp> oh wow, he's on a bench
22:24:42 <Arnia> hah, there is a door there that says 'boys'
22:24:57 <Arnia> never noticed that before
22:25:48 <sbp> what doggy names are there in the UK?
22:25:52 <sbp> I can only think of the Isle of Dogs
22:26:04 <Arnia> Sheppey?
22:26:11 <sbp> ooh, yeah
22:26:21 <[bjoern]> .gc +"null null seven"
22:26:21 <phenny> +"null null seven": 2
22:26:21 <Monty> Jo Shled sounds trickier. Each is you wipe and they even attempting that package from?
22:26:25 <sbp> oh, Dogger Bank
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22:29:46 <Arnia> The Gay Shipping Forecast
22:29:51 <sbp> hehe
22:30:20 <sbp> I can't think of any more
22:30:23 <sbp> I even tried Google
22:30:46 <Arnia> .g list of doggy names in the UK
22:30:47 <phenny> Arnia: http://www.dog-names.org.uk/
22:30:53 <Arnia> ...
22:31:11 <sbp> Airedale!
22:31:24 <Arnia> West Yorkshire?
22:31:28 <sbp> Wooton Bassett...
22:31:28 <Arnia> I don't think those count
22:31:36 <Arnia> Wooton Bassett does
22:31:45 <Arnia> Shepperton
22:31:57 <jeanniecool> airedale, and yorkshire, and bassett all count.
22:31:59 <sbp> "Cardigan Welsh Corgi"
22:32:01 <jeanniecool> also, baskervilles.
22:32:38 <sbp> there are Norfolk and Norwich Terriers?
22:32:48 <jeanniecool> Yes.
22:32:51 <sbp> and Patterdale!
22:33:11 * jeanniecool sends SeanB to watch "Best In Show"
22:33:34 <sbp> yeah, seen it
22:33:54 * Arnia hides from Crufts
22:33:59 <sbp> did they mention Patterdale Terriers?
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22:35:14 <yano> .title http://www.cnn.com/2010/WORLD/europe/03/25/russia.uk.intercepts/index.html?hpt=C1
22:35:15 <phenny> yano: Russian bombers 'intercepted in British airspace' - CNN.com
22:35:17 <sbp> .g "null null seven"
22:35:18 <phenny> sbp: http://mysettopbox.tv/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=1740
22:35:55 <sbp> —
22:35:57 <sbp> "This is not an unusual incident, and many people may be surprised to know that our crews have successfully scrambled to intercept Russian aircraft on more than 20 occasions since the start of 2009," Wing Cdr. Mark Gorringe, of the RAF's 111 Squadron, said in a statement.
22:35:59 <sbp> —
22:36:18 <Arnia> That's marvellous...
22:36:22 <Arnia> what are they DOING there?
22:36:44 <[bjoern]> .gc "null null sieben"
22:36:44 <phenny> "null null sieben": 249
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22:37:35 <Arnia> kpreid: have you scrambled any bombs lately?
22:37:44 <sbp> stirs up some nice Cold War memories, eh?
22:37:55 <Arnia> sbp: don't... the cold war still freaks me out
22:38:11 <[bjoern]> makes me think of scrambled eggs, really.
22:38:24 <yano> heh anyone familiar with numbers stations?
22:38:34 <Arnia> yano: don't you dare
22:38:36 <Arnia> just don't
22:38:44 <Arnia> that song makes me want to cry :(
22:38:57 <[bjoern]> Let's all hit yano.
22:39:13 <yano> Arnia: what I was just going to point out, that the number of them have increased significantly since 1989.
22:39:16 <yano> why must I be hit?
22:39:35 <[bjoern]> Why must there be a reason?
22:39:36 <sbp> wake up out there!
22:40:01 <Arnia> five seven two three five
22:40:03 <Arnia> five seven two three five
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22:40:08 <Arnia> five seven two three five
22:40:16 <Arnia> four nine eight one one
22:40:29 <Arnia> four nine eight one one
22:40:32 <[bjoern]> .gc "zero zero seven"
22:40:32 <phenny> "zero zero seven": 1,370
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22:40:33 <Monty> Speak of the devil, it's libby!
22:40:34 <Arnia> four nine eight one one
22:40:56 <[bjoern]> ooooooom.... ooooooommm...
22:41:27 * Arnia poaches [bjoern] with lincolnshire sausages
22:41:42 * jeanniecool wants eggs and sausages now
22:41:59 <yano> .g Conet Project
22:42:00 <phenny> yano: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Conet_Project
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22:47:00 <sbp> .u circ nu
22:47:00 <phenny> U+32E6 CIRCLED KATAKANA NU (㋦)
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22:48:41 <Arnia> why is someone reading a list of numbers so sinister?
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22:49:40 <sbp> I think it's because of the way that it situates in the radio spectrum
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22:50:02 <sbp> foreign regular broadcasts used to sound similar in the same way
22:50:09 <sbp> until recording technology improved
22:50:15 <sbp> also broadcasts from planes
22:50:29 <sbp> er, sound similarly sinister
22:50:48 <sbp> but with the n. stations, the tone of the voice and so on just boosts it tenfold
22:51:51 <yano> It's not sinister, it is just suspicious
22:52:14 <yano> or intriguing
22:52:33 <Arnia> I find it sinister sounding
22:54:05 <sbp> —
22:54:06 <sbp> a 1998 article in The Daily Telegraph quoted a spokesperson for the Department of Trade and Industry (the government department that, at that time, regulated radio broadcasting in the United Kingdom) as saying, "These [numbers stations] are what you suppose they are. People shouldn't be mystified by them. They are not for, shall we say, public consumption."
22:54:07 <sbp> —
22:54:12 <sbp> I find it very sinister too
22:54:21 <sbp> and one of the most poetic of non-literary things
23:00:04 <sbp> —
23:00:05 <sbp> A BBC frequency, 7325 kHz, has also been used. This prompted a letter to the BBC from a listener in Andorra. She wrote to the World Service "Waveguide" program complaining that her listening had been spoiled by a female voice reading out numbers in English and she asked the announcer what this interference was.
23:00:06 <sbp> The BBC presenter laughed at the suggestion of spy activity. He had consulted the experts at Bush House (BBC World Service headquarters) who declared that the voice was reading out nothing more sinister than snowfall figures for the ski-slopes near the listener's home.
23:00:06 <sbp> With more research into this case, short wave enthusiasts are fairly sure that this was a numbers station being broadcast on a random frequency. The likelihood of the broadcast being snow readings is in doubt because it would have been illegal to broadcast on an already used frequency.
23:00:08 <sbp> —
23:07:24 <sbp> "A US burglar broke into a sushi restaurant, cooked himself a meal and then fled, leaving his dirty dishes behind."
23:09:46 <sbp> .title http://www.ananova.com/news/story/sm_3721680.html
23:09:48 <phenny> sbp: Ananova - Row over Tiger Woods blow-up doll
23:09:49 <sbp> (contains pic)
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23:12:27 <sbp> .title http://www.ananova.com/news/story/sm_3718622.html
23:12:28 <phenny> sbp: Ananova - Giant pliers appear above West Midlands
23:12:37 * jeanniecool really doesn't get the concept of a male blowup doll....
23:13:48 <sbp> .title http://www.ananova.com/news/story/sm_3717375.html
23:13:50 <phenny> sbp: Ananova - Corrugated shack is priceless
23:14:48 <sbp> "Mafia suspect caught on Facebook"
23:15:48 <sbp> "An 83-year-old West Midlands man thought he had arthritis only to discover a German bullet had been lodged in his hip for the last 66 years."
23:15:55 <jeanniecool> Hwo do you pronounce this name?
23:16:27 <jeanniecool> er
23:16:34 <jeanniecool> How do you pronounce this name? Fionnula
23:17:15 <sbp> fee-on-you-luh?
23:17:18 <sbp> .title http://www.ananova.com/news/story/sm_3715095.html
23:17:19 <phenny> sbp: Ananova - Turkey tale set for Hollywood
23:18:15 <sbp> I only found http://www.behindthename.com/name/fionnuala
23:19:27 <yano> .title http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/8587576.stm
23:19:29 <phenny> yano: BBC News - Dutch coffee shop fined 10m euros for breaking drug law
23:20:14 <sbp> "A New York restaurateur has been warned by city health officials after he offered customers cheese made from his wife's breast milk."
23:21:26 <sbp> .title http://www.ananova.com/news/story/sm_3709355.html
23:21:27 <phenny> sbp: Ananova - US town baffled by Midnight Knitter
23:21:50 <sbp> phenny: tell Morbus http://www.ananova.com/news/story/sm_3710763.html
23:21:50 <Monty> poor people on won't do...
23:21:50 <phenny> sbp: I'll pass that on when Morbus is around.
23:21:54 <sbp> .title
23:21:55 <phenny> sbp: Ananova - Artist fixes old buildings with Lego
23:22:11 <jeanniecool> Arnia, you never said why you found the Lovelace article depressing....
23:22:11 <Monty> wanna know!
23:22:27 <Arnia> jeanniecool: that's because I never did
23:22:44 <sbp> one big cadge
23:22:46 <jeanniecool> oops
23:22:50 <jeanniecool> it was SeanB.
23:22:54 <jeanniecool> okay, sbp, why?
23:23:14 * sbp doesn't want to say
23:23:32 <Arnia> the horror is too much
23:23:46 <jeanniecool> It makes me miss Suw....
23:23:53 <Arnia> almost as bad as a statue of Alan Turing leering at you out of the mists
23:25:40 <jeanniecool> SeanB, that knitting thing is annoying.
23:25:49 <jeanniecool> NJ people are totally uptight.
23:25:55 <jeanniecool> we here in Seattle heart it. :-P
23:26:26 <sbp> "Road safety chiefs have put up traffic signs warning motorists of drunks in the road in a bid to reduce accidents." - http://www.ananova.com/news/story/sm_3705747.html
23:26:58 * Arnia inflates a 400ft high Tiger Woods sex doll in Seattle
23:27:16 <Arnia> I read that as road safety chefs
23:27:38 <sbp> road safety chefs++
23:28:20 <jeanniecool> SeanB, http://erika.fisherking.org/?page_id=271
23:28:25 <sbp> ahahaha. this is the best one so far: "A Mexican judge has been sacked for trying to punish a teenage graffiti artist by spray painting his buttocks."
23:28:29 <sbp> .title
23:28:32 <phenny> sbp: Redshirt Knitting Archives » Tree Sweater
23:28:46 <sbp> wow, complete with pattern
23:29:22 <sbp> the cut bit at the bottom is awesome
23:29:32 *** sbp changed the topic to: ""A Mexican judge has been sacked for trying to punish a teenage graffiti artist by spray painting his buttocks.""
23:32:10 <Arnia> I'm impressed by the industriousness of this creature
23:32:28 <Arnia> A slug has appeared on the ledge of the balcony of my third floor flat
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23:32:53 <jeanniecool> Maybe someone from above spit it out, Arnia.
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23:33:02 <Arnia> You mean YOU
23:33:09 * Arnia deletes jeanniecool
23:33:10 <jeanniecool> ...
23:33:11 <jeanniecool> ...
23:33:13 <jeanniecool> ...busted.
23:33:13 <sbp> .title http://www.ananova.com/news/story/sm_3701046.html
23:33:14 <phenny> sbp: Ananova - Boy 'directed air traffic' at JFK
23:34:07 <sbp> "A US man who claimed his car had been stolen after he crashed it into a snow drift was arrested after police followed his footsteps back to the bar where he'd been drinking."
23:38:17 <sbp> wow, what? "A theology student has been jailed in Croatia after he caused £30m damage after he he set fire to a thorn bush that kept pricking him."
23:39:13 <sbp> wow, yeah. what? http://www.ananova.com/news/story/sm_3698607.html
23:39:46 <sbp> hehe:
23:39:47 <sbp> "Nelson Mandela has left Jeremy Clarkson baffled after mistaking the Top Gear host for an astronaut."
23:39:58 <sbp> "Clarkson could not bring himself to correct the legendary leader, so pretended he had visited the moon, The Sun reports."
23:40:26 <sbp> whole page is good: http://www.ananova.com/news/story/sm_3697414.html
23:40:35 <jeanniecool> tell me more about the theology student...
23:41:05 <sbp> link given above. basically the bush annoyed him
23:41:10 <sbp> so he turned it into a burning bush
23:41:17 <sbp> which then destroyed 500 acres of woodland
23:41:20 <sbp> and wildlife
23:41:38 <jeanniecool> Hmm.
23:41:46 <jeanniecool> Too bad it hadn't spoken to him.
23:42:07 <sbp> if it had, he wouldn't have needed to set it on fire yeah
23:43:23 <jeanniecool> "Put me out, you eejit!!"
23:43:41 <sbp> hehe
23:58:53 <yano> heh found a more recent article: http://forth.ie/index.php/content/weekend_article/sierra_papa_india_echo_sierra/20100320/
