00:02:49 <clsn> http://www.ananova.com/news/story/sm_3723725.html rings an alarm bell to me in that the guy's name "Furze", ISTR is related to the Esperanto root (and presumably some other Romance languages) meaning "fart" (which is what the moped looks like it's doing.)
00:04:15 <Arnia> Visualisation papers take so long to download
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00:07:44 <Monty> lo theresaanna
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00:11:35 <theresaanna> greetings, Monty
00:11:36 <Monty> creates website.
00:12:25 <sbp> theresaanna: do you know Leah Culver?
00:13:08 <theresaanna> sbp: why does that name sound familiar....
00:13:18 <theresaanna> Monty: what will be on your website?
00:13:19 <Monty> honey is wrestling and lost!
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00:17:19 <theresaanna> oh my, Monty. that sounds half nsfw, half lame.
00:17:21 <Monty> if those views i'm confused how goes?
00:17:45 <theresaanna> I get such a kick out of talking to him. I don't want to know what that says about me...
00:18:04 * theresaanna googles leah culver
00:18:31 <sbp> we've all had days when we've only spoken to him, don't worry...
00:18:44 <theresaanna> good to know :)
00:19:22 <jeanniecool> It's when you start ignoring DTG in favor of Monty prime ministers that we'll start worrying, theresaanna.
00:19:24 <Monty> parsing html with that go to barf
00:19:39 <theresaanna> i think he's talking about regexes
00:19:50 <theresaanna> ha! jeanniecool i already am :p
00:20:12 <theresaanna> I think I'm fascinated because, before I was even on IRC really, I wanted to create a bot/app that would speak gibberish to me. I guess its just my sense of humor.
00:20:59 <theresaanna> leah culver, ok. I didn't actually know of her, but now i do
00:21:18 <Arnia> poor you
00:21:33 <theresaanna> hm?
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00:28:09 <theresaanna> sbp: why do you ask?
00:29:01 <sbp> just fishing for random input into a random debate :-)
00:29:07 <theresaanna> i see
00:29:16 <sbp> I'm like a metaphysical miner. to mix metaphors slightly
00:29:29 * theresaanna considers this
00:29:49 <theresaanna> ok...
00:30:10 <theresaanna> well if it is a debate that I don't need too much prior knowledge to potentially participate in, i'm all ears
00:32:05 <sbp> I was just arguing that people like Leah Culver hurt the perception of women in technology for three reasons. (1) they didn't actually do anything and only got where they are because they exploited social networking and looks; (2) they carve out a space that could have been filled by more deserving women; and (3) they can shock the perceptions of anybody who admired them
00:32:23 <theresaanna> aha! I had suspected
00:33:05 <theresaanna> well, I don't know much about her actual merits, but i'm going to go ahead and assume that, when googling if i find pictures of her before i find evidence of her work, that there is at least partial truth to that argument
00:33:05 <jeanniecool> And I was just arguing that symbols are important.
00:33:39 <sbp> at some point I was thinking about not naming Leah, but then I thought that on the male side people have been arguing about (say) Dave Winer for years. people don't shut up about him. Leah is the Dave Winer of female technologists!
00:33:49 <jeanniecool> lol
00:34:06 <sbp> then again I get on quite well with Winer, personally
00:34:14 <sbp> but, in principle
00:34:34 <sbp> theresaanna: she got a big boost when she appeared on the cover of Wired
00:34:44 <theresaanna> naturally -
00:34:49 <theresaanna> i do have a hard time with the fact that women in any field are infinitely more likely to be noticed if they are blonde and pretty.
00:35:15 <theresaanna> alternately, i think that if those women are extraordinarily competent, it is a sad fact that their actual skills get overlooked
00:35:29 <sbp> I remember she was leading some Web 2.0 startup which, if I recall properly, lost a lot of data. somebody showed me a question she put on her weblog once which showed several elementary python errors which made several commentators grit their teeth
00:35:51 <sbp> sure... that's a different and I suppose equally sad point
00:36:10 <sbp> I'm certainly not dismissing other such points...
00:36:22 <jeanniecool> theresaanna, that's sadly true about *every* field.
00:36:28 <theresaanna> jeanniecool: agreed
00:36:32 <jeanniecool> To quote the Colonel, "It don't hurt to be pretty in this world."
00:37:11 <sbp> Sandy Denny comes to mind
00:37:42 <theresaanna> I think that is an unavoidable fact of human nature, but there is a clear difference in the boost that it gives men and what it can do for women
00:37:54 <jeanniecool> Dunno who that is, either.
00:38:06 * jeanniecool would agree with that, as well
00:38:15 <jeanniecool> ...and why do you think that is, theresaanna?
00:38:25 * jeanniecool waits for theresaanna to draw the only logical conclusion
00:38:29 <theresaanna> haha
00:38:33 <sbp> perhaps the most talented singer-songwriter of the '70s, who was passed over time and time again because she wasn't the prettiest star available to promote; and then spiralled into a sort of chaos of eating problems, depression, and general misery — somehow sustaining her extraordinary artistic output throughout
00:39:06 * theresaanna takes deep breath
00:39:15 <theresaanna> because women have historically been valued only on their appearance, not their skills. their ability as equal human being was flatly denied for much of history and still is in parts of the world today
00:39:18 * theresaanna curtsies
00:39:26 <jeanniecool> Good girl!
00:39:31 * jeanniecool pats theresaanna onnahead
00:39:36 * theresaanna beams
00:39:42 <sbp> s/parts/most/?
00:39:51 <jeanniecool> I was really looking for the even simpler "b/c men are usually in charge", but that was nicely put. :-D
00:39:57 <theresaanna> oh haha
00:40:05 <theresaanna> well, i try to follow the chain as far back as i can
00:40:12 <theresaanna> hm... most, yes
00:40:29 <theresaanna> i suppose that is safe to say
00:40:49 <jeanniecool> ...sadly. :-/
00:40:54 <sbp> the worst part is when it smoulders in the backwaters
00:41:02 <sbp> I found a *great* example of this the other day
00:41:04 <theresaanna> i guess my feeling about having symbols is that i'd rather make real progress than some semblance of that we can all pat ourselves on the back for and call it a day
00:41:07 <sbp> lemme try to re-find it... it's really good
00:41:33 <theresaanna> though i do understand the argument
00:41:48 <sbp> here we go:
00:41:49 <sbp> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sophie_Germain#Criticisms
00:42:03 <sbp> mathematical historians are still uncertain as to her merits
00:42:14 <sbp> which is ironic, because I'm uncertain as to the merits of mathematical historians
00:42:46 <jeanniecool> theresaanna, right.
00:42:48 <jeanniecool> Are we there yet?
00:42:49 <jeanniecool> No.
00:43:15 <jeanniecool> Therefore, I would argue, it's better to have SOMEone to look up to, rather than a void.
00:43:41 * theresaanna considers this
00:43:43 <jeanniecool> SeanB argues that these faux heroines are taking up the space of real ones, via shameless self-promotion, etc.
00:43:55 <sbp> I think an empty symbol is worse than a void because of reasons (2) and (3) above
00:44:05 <theresaanna> I have to agree with sbp
00:44:11 <sbp> yeah, that was reason (2). reason (3) was disappointment when you realise your heroine is a phony
00:44:28 <sbp> like that odd list I saw in campus the other day...
00:44:33 <theresaanna> I don't personally have the ability to claim that they aren't "real" ones, but can deduce that there are more talented women in the shadows who get overlooked because they aren't eye candy
00:45:45 <jeanniecool> No argument on that here, theresaanna.
00:45:55 <jeanniecool> But the eyecandy is what gets the press.
00:46:00 * theresaanna rolls eyes
00:46:15 <theresaanna> name pretty guys in tech
00:46:17 <sbp> not true in the male sector though right?
00:46:18 <jeanniecool> Hey, I didn't invent the system, dammit!
00:46:19 <sbp> yeah...
00:46:31 * theresaanna scans mental list of scruffy, unkempt programmers
00:46:33 <sbp> heck, look at esr and rms
00:47:00 <jeanniecool> B/c there's not enough viable female competition, people.
00:47:10 <jeanniecool> It's like affirmative action.
00:47:40 <jeanniecool> There is no way you can convince me that reverse discrimination was not helpful raising the socioeconomic status of minorities in the US.
00:47:56 <jeanniecool> *not helpful IN
00:48:22 <sbp> hmm, but that's a bit like the Nagasaki bomb debate...
00:48:28 <jeanniecool> My argument is, we'll have won when no one mentions gender or color anymore.
00:48:33 <jeanniecool> It's not gonna happen in my lifetime.
00:49:08 <jeanniecool> however, I think the eyecandy being out there DOES positively influence little girls and their odds of entering science and tech fields.
00:49:29 * theresaanna sneaks out to go pack, however much she wants to stay and chat
00:51:34 <jeanniecool> 'sokay, theresaanna - he knows I've won, even if he'll never admit it.
00:51:38 <jeanniecool> () :-)
00:52:52 <theresaanna> i declare sbp the winner! :P
00:52:56 * theresaanna runs away
00:52:58 <theresaanna> <3 jeanniecool
00:53:11 * jeanniecool tackles theresaanna and kicks her ass
00:54:02 <sbp> :-)
01:01:45 <jeanniecool> sbp, you just like the idea of a girl fight. :-P
01:01:59 <clsn> He already sold the tickets.
01:02:07 * jeanniecool snorks
01:10:54 <Arnia> I'm actually philosophically opposed to positive discrimination
01:11:29 <Arnia> I think that as long as you continue to make a big deal out of things, you'll perpetuate the problems with those things being a big deal
01:12:12 <Arnia> Remember the trite comment about science progressing from funeral to funeral? I believe something similar applies to sociology
01:12:20 <Arnia> Or rather, to human society in general
01:13:07 <Arnia> People will cling to their particular prejudices til death
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01:24:24 <kpreid> Arnia: So. Assume life extension is invented. What now? :)
01:24:47 * Arnia brandishes one of his stockpile of nukes
01:25:23 <kpreid> Ah, the 'more deaths from outside causes' strategy
01:25:53 <kpreid> One would hope though that *some* other system evolves
01:25:54 <Arnia> whether or not it is an outside cause depends on where I put the nuke really
01:26:02 * Arnia gets the lubricant
01:26:40 <kpreid> ...since whoever-collectively comes up with a better way to make progress will visibly do better...hopefully?
01:27:57 <Arnia> I think that implicitly assumes an objective fitness function on strategies
01:28:14 <jeanniecool> lubricant?
01:28:19 <jeanniecool> ...penis?
01:30:15 <jeanniecool> Arnia, to say that positive/reverse discrimination doesn't work is rather like those cosmetic/etc companies that today tout "never having tested on animals" as a badge of honor.
01:30:32 * jeanniecool argues that they don't have to, b/c companies for the previous 100+ yrs did
01:30:49 <Arnia> um... I do not see any logic in that simile at all
01:30:51 <Arnia> sorry
01:31:45 <jeanniecool> I'm saying, I think it *has* worked.
01:32:39 <jeanniecool> Whether or not it we still need it is a much bigger discussion, but I think the evidence has backed up that affirmative action did work.
01:32:40 <Arnia> You can't say that without a control
01:32:40 <Monty> cool
01:33:07 <jeanniecool> Hmm, a couple hundred years of women not voting in the US should count.
01:33:19 <Arnia> That's... that's not a control
01:33:22 <Arnia> because affirmative action is illegal here, yet we've got much less discrimination than ever before
01:33:54 <Arnia> so it seems to me to be more likely a general social trend in western society rather than anything to do with affirmative action
01:34:07 <jeanniecool> ...and you don't think the US is a leader there?
01:34:22 <Arnia> No actually
01:34:28 <jeanniecool> Okay.
01:34:35 <jeanniecool> We've nothing further to say then. :-)
01:34:49 <Arnia> You're far less accepting of woman and homosexuality than the UK
01:35:29 <jeanniecool> Can gays marry in the UK?
01:35:49 <Arnia> It isn't called marriage but it is legally defined as being inseparably identical in terms of rights and responsibilities
01:36:16 <Arnia> which is good enough in my opinion as a compromise
01:36:21 <jeanniecool> Including military pensions, etc.?
01:36:48 <Arnia> ? I have lots of gay friends in the armed forces
01:36:52 <Arnia> openly gay friends
01:36:54 <jeanniecool> Find out.
01:36:56 * jeanniecool is curious
01:37:07 <Arnia> No, I mean pensions etc cannot be denied
01:37:07 <Monty> used prior to their code that it seems like Jesus
01:37:18 <Arnia> I'm curious as to the reason for the question
01:37:19 <jeanniecool> Civil unions exist in the US.
01:37:35 <Arnia> Civil partnerships in the UK are colloquially called marriages
01:37:44 <jeanniecool> I.e., a family can't keep a gay spouse form making medical decisions, etc.
01:37:45 <Arnia> and they're legally *identical* to marriages
01:37:45 <Monty> yw, glad it's the Top Gear host for it fairly realistic
01:37:46 <yano> jeanniecool: only in certain states
01:37:51 <jeanniecool> Here, too.
01:38:08 <Arnia> Yet you asked about pensions?
01:38:34 <jeanniecool> However, bob and dave are in a CU. Dave is retired military, receives a penions. Dave dies.
01:38:54 <jeanniecool> If Bob were a woman, he would continue to receive Dave's pension.
01:39:02 <jeanniecool> er
01:39:13 <jeanniecool> If they were married (if Bob were a woman), he would continue to receive Dave's pension.
01:39:32 <Arnia> Well, if he doesn't receive the same treatment then civil unions aren't identical to marriages
01:39:40 <jeanniecool> Right.
01:39:58 <jeanniecool> But people here say they are, and I wondered if you actually knew otherwise. :-P
01:40:35 <jeanniecool> (Which is the argument made by those who disfavor legalizing same sex marriage.)
01:40:45 <Arnia> I'm stating that they are legally defined here as 'they are identical' (the wording is a bit more verbose than that, but the upshot is any right or responsibility attached to marriages applies to civil partnerships equally including any rights or responsibilities defined in the future)
01:41:11 <clsn> Civil union vs marriage is two separate arguments, only one of which is meaningful. I don't care whether or not you CALL them marriages; what matters is whether or not civil unions are *legally identical* to marriage. In the US, they are not.
01:41:31 <Arnia> clsn: well yes... that's my point
01:41:47 <jeanniecool> That was my point, too, clsn; they aren't, but public perception says otherwise.
01:41:50 <Arnia> clsn: it is why I don't care that they're called civil partnerships rather than marriages in statute here
01:42:10 <clsn> If civil unions were identical to marriage, people fighting for same-sex marriage are wasting effort for words, and I don't really feel they deserve support. But the fact is that they are NOT identical, and THAT'S why it's worth working for.
01:42:13 <Arnia> jeanniecool: yes, but your point was also that the US was leading the world in this sort of stuff :)
01:42:23 <clsn> Mm, then public perception is not very perceptive.
01:42:28 <Arnia> clsn: in the US yes... I'm talking about in the UK
01:42:36 <Arnia> (where they are identical)
01:42:37 <jeanniecool> No, it's really not. Is that somehow surprising to you, clsn? :-P
01:42:48 <jeanniecool> No, I don't think I said "leading".
01:42:52 <clsn> OK. I sure hope ppl in the UK aren't fretting too hard to get the stupid name changed.
01:42:58 <jeanniecool> No, I did.
01:43:01 <Arnia> Stonewall are
01:43:01 * jeanniecool recalls now
01:43:05 <Arnia> cocks
01:43:24 <jeanniecool> But my point was rather that US tv and movies are everywhere - and they are the forerunner of liberalism.
01:43:35 <clsn> jeanniecool: Not so much, no, but it does deserve to have its perception re-perceptionized, ideally with a hard whack upside the head.
01:43:35 <Monty> (mostly)
01:43:46 <clsn> Monty
01:43:47 <Monty> there in 3.3.3
01:43:54 <clsn> Monty: Shut. Up. In that order.
01:43:58 <Monty> Mozart's talking hairs regularly sucks VortX's gulping movements!!!
01:44:12 <jeanniecool> Oh, I concur!
01:45:12 <jeanniecool> A difference, though, Arnia, is that opposite sexed couples can establish a civil union in the US, IIRC....
01:45:15 * jeanniecool reads further
01:45:42 <clsn> On the flip side, if I were opposed to same-sex marriage, I would do everything I could to convince people that civil unions really WERE identical, and therefore that same-sex couples were really just being whiny bitches.
01:45:54 * jeanniecool nods
01:46:08 <jeanniecool> ohdear
01:46:11 * jeanniecool goes to check dinner
01:46:23 <Arnia> jeanniecool: but there is no point if they're legally identical
01:46:48 <Arnia> (no point in heterosexual couples having a civil partnership rather than a marriage)
01:47:09 <Arnia> also, US TV and films seem really conservative to many in the UK
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01:47:28 <Arnia> quaintly so
01:51:26 <clsn> I note, however, that most conservative groups are not stressing that angle. hmm.
01:51:56 <Arnia> well they're not arguing pragmatically, they're arguing ideologically
01:52:11 <Arnia> which is fine... in its way... although it dramatically reduces the chance of succeeding
01:52:48 <jeanniecool> I disagree, though, even if they are "identical in every way to".
01:52:59 <jeanniecool> It's a little too "separate but equal" for me.
01:53:10 <jeanniecool> But dinner is done, so I'm away.
01:53:12 <jeanniecool> laters!
01:53:15 <Arnia> ...
01:53:59 <Arnia> I think that is an awful comparison
01:54:09 <clsn> I can accept the separate-but-equal argument, but even so... Maybe after the war is won such battles can be fought. I think the focus should be on the actual differences. If that can be made more palatable by sacrificing the name "marriage", it's a small price.
01:54:23 <Arnia> I don't think separate-but-equal applies
01:54:38 <Arnia> that's using words for emotional impact rather than a rational discussion
01:55:17 <Arnia> It isn't as if marriage is a club and people in civil partnerships are denied membership from it
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01:55:21 <clsn> Not sure it does, but I'm willing to hear out the idea. And there is something to be said for the emotional impact of words. There is some intangible benefit to being able to call it "marriage" and not "union". OTOH, what people call it in everyday life needn't be what the law calls it.
01:55:50 <Arnia> the 'club' is just a series of legal rights and responsibilities which attach to a form of contract
01:56:03 <Arnia> so civil partnership is the *same* club
01:56:06 <Arnia> it isn't separate
01:56:30 <Arnia> and, as I said, they're colloquially called marriages even by the Daily Mail
01:56:34 <clsn> I note that most same-sex partners do not refer to one another as "wife" or "husband", also.
01:56:40 <clsn> Just a note in passing.
01:57:30 <clsn> If they become more useful here in the US, I'd certainly encourage calling them "marriages" (and wife/husband too for that matter) no matter what the legal term is.
01:58:16 <Arnia> I have a feeling an overall legal term will arise in the UK courts soon enough
01:58:19 <clsn> In fact, wrt the difference between civil union and marriage, given that marriage is a religious sacrament or whatever, what really makes sense is that ONLY civil unions exist legally, and marriage is a private (religious/spiritual) matter.
01:58:31 <Arnia> Judges get sick of having to use slashes all the time
01:58:39 <clsn> Yes, it needs to have a unified term.
01:59:08 <Arnia> but this is a common law country (much more so than the US actually) so this will arise naturally by the courts
01:59:15 <BigJibby> We just call marriage here.
01:59:16 <Arnia> no need to legislate one
01:59:42 <BigJibby> as of 2003 anyway...
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02:01:35 <clsn> Yeah, our law is uncommon.
02:01:36 <Arnia> I'm currently hoping that the courts weaken the Human Rights Act a bit actually before it chokes the legal system up in torts.
02:02:14 <Arnia> it takes so long to sort out the appropriate tests though
02:02:29 * Arnia leaves that to his human rights lawyer friends
02:06:37 <Arnia> I'm trying to design visualisations for diabetes at the moment
02:07:26 <Arnia> I've had all my treatments changed today (yesterday) and I'd like some good ways of analysing the mountains of log data this new treatment regime is generating
02:07:43 <Arnia> otherwise I may collapse under the weight :p
02:08:12 * BigJibby hands Arnia a pop
02:08:24 <Arnia> pop?
02:08:33 <BigJibby> soda?
02:08:45 <Arnia> ah, fizzy drink
02:08:58 <BigJibby> bubbly sugar :)
02:09:50 <Arnia> *drinks diet fizzy drinks*
02:09:59 <Arnia> so no sugar
02:10:35 <BigJibby> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soft_drink#Regional_names_for_soft_drinks
02:11:11 <Arnia> I rarely hear pop here
02:11:15 <Arnia> very very rarely
02:11:54 <Arnia> I like how they have 'United Kingdom' and then also 'Scotland'
02:12:07 <BigJibby> I use pop or soft drink.
02:12:24 <Arnia> I use fizzy drink or soft drink
02:13:28 <BigJibby> I've never heard it called fizzy drink before.
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02:15:31 <Arnia> [[[
02:15:34 <Arnia> The sherbet lemon has a citrus taste and is sour and also tangy. The sherbet in the middle explodes, making the sweet suddenly more sour. It was created by John Pearson, who was not Ian Flemings assistant or first biography writer.
02:15:36 <Arnia> ]]]
02:15:44 <Arnia> — http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sherbet_(powder)
02:16:11 <Arnia> This whole article is bizarre
02:16:23 <Arnia> phenny, tell sbp to take a look at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sherbet_(powder)
02:16:24 <phenny> Arnia: I'll pass that on when sbp is around.
02:17:57 <Arnia> This is one of my favourite soft drinks: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dandelion_%26_Burdock
02:21:36 * clsn is NOT from a "pop" part of the country. It's soda here.
02:22:33 <clsn> Different parts of the US have "soda", "pop", or "soda-pop" etc. In "pop" places, "soda" means only club soda/seltzer.
02:24:20 <BigJibby> http://popvssoda.com:2998/
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02:30:16 <Monty> hi jeffarch, how ya doing?
02:31:23 <Arnia> .c 5 foot 10 inches in metres
02:31:23 <phenny> 5 foot 10 inches = 1.77800 meters
02:31:50 <Arnia> .c 2 m in feet
02:31:51 <phenny> 2 meters = 6.56167979 feet
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02:35:40 <clsn> .c 50 mph in m/s
02:35:41 <phenny> 50 mph = 22.35200 meters / second
02:36:25 <BigJibby> .c 1 cad in usd
02:36:25 <phenny> 1 Canadian dollar = 0.981547 U.S. dollars
02:36:25 <Monty> "you"
02:37:23 <theresaanna> Monty thinks the other bots are worth 98 cents apparently, or one canadian dollar
02:37:31 <Monty> That's... that's fine for trying to test reliability - http://developer.symbian.org/main/documentation/reference/s%5E3/doc_source/GT_tb92sf/httptransportfw/index.html
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02:50:36 <jeanniecool> clsn, Arnia: In some parts of the US, everything is a "coke". (i.e., parts of the south)
02:51:04 <jeanniecool> e.g. Waitress: Y'all want a coke? You: Sure. Waitress: What kind?
02:51:36 <clsn> Yes, true.
02:51:52 <BigJibby> people in the US also say "uh huh" a lot.
02:53:10 <theresaanna> or mm hmm
02:54:36 <BigJibby> yeah, that's a more accurate spelling of the sound.
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02:57:28 * jeanniecool pronounces those differently, as they were just written
02:58:06 <clsn> yeah, those aren't interchangeable words/sounds.
03:01:20 <jeanniecool> clsn++ # for knowing where it is () :-)
03:29:57 <[bjoern]> .gc +infinitelytasking
03:29:57 <phenny> +infinitelytasking: 0
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08:48:08 <[bjoern]> .u trade
08:48:08 <phenny> U+2122 TRADE MARK SIGN (™)
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10:45:27 * sbp puts {{fact}} next to UK pop in http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soft_drink#Regional_names_for_soft_drinks
10:45:28 <phenny> sbp: 02:16Z <Arnia> tell sbp to take a look at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sherbet_(powder)
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10:51:17 <sbp> phenny: tell Arnia I'd never heard of the words kali and keli for sherbert
10:51:17 <phenny> sbp: I'll pass that on when Arnia is around.
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11:03:30 <nslater> haha
11:03:32 <nslater> "It was created by John Pearson, who was not Ian Flemings assistant or first biography writer."
11:03:38 <nslater> what the fuck, wikipedia?
11:03:45 <nslater> how is that in any way related to sherbet?
11:45:16 <sbp> presumably to distinguish him from a more famous John Pearson
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12:28:30 <sbp> heh, #freenode are useless
12:28:40 <sbp> 20 voiced staff or so, and nobody in /stats p
12:29:05 <[bjoern]> Took you some time to notice.
12:29:48 <sbp> I don't normally go in there
12:29:52 <sbp> now I remember why
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13:54:34 <Monty> hi libby
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15:41:11 <sbp> 'Earlier this week Gawker held an online vote to pick the replacement for the term 'hipster." The five finalists were Doucheoisie, Fauxhemians, Pabstsmears, Probos and Trendsluts. The winner by a landslide? Fauxhemian.'
15:43:00 <sbp> .title http://www.crunchgear.com/2010/03/25/this-amazing-photo-of-earth-cost-only-750-to-take/
15:43:01 <phenny> sbp: This amazing photo of Earth cost only $750 to take
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15:44:18 <sbp> .title http://www.downloadsquad.com/2010/03/25/pwn2own-2010-google-chrome-is-the-last-man-standing/
15:44:19 <phenny> sbp: Pwn2Own 2010: Google Chrome is the last man standing
15:46:51 <sbp> —
15:46:51 <sbp> During a fire drill at a middle school in Worcester, England, students aged 10 to 13 looked on in horror as "as a man appeared brandishing a gun and appeared to shoot dead Mr. Kent, their science teacher, as he ran across a field."
15:46:51 <sbp> It was only ten minutes after the shooting that teachers revealed the whole thing to be fake. The exercise was apparently "intended to teach Year 8 pupils how to investigate, collect facts and analyse evidence."
15:46:52 <sbp> —
15:46:56 <sbp> (Telegraph, or somewhere)
15:47:36 <sbp> 'The head teacher said "It was one of the more popular teachers who played the victim, I don't think there would have been as much concern if it was one or two of the others."'
15:47:50 <Arnia> That's amazing
15:47:51 <phenny> Arnia: 10:51Z <sbp> tell Arnia I'd never heard of the words kali and keli for sherbert
15:48:48 <Arnia> And that photo is awesome
15:49:32 <sbp> http://www.telegraph.co.uk/education/educationnews/7519836/School-condemned-after-pupils-left-in-tears-by-mock-shooting.html
15:49:34 <sbp> yeah
15:52:06 <Arnia> good thing it didn't crash into the see
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15:52:09 <Arnia> uh, sea
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15:52:20 * Arnia is back to making homophonous typos
15:54:57 <sbp> "Budget 2010: Does Alistair Darling get his ties from Primark?"
15:55:04 <sbp> http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/culture/lucyjones/100007278/hate-modern-art-guitar-playing-zebra-finches-will-change-your-mind/
16:01:04 <sbp> http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/culture/tomchivers/100007281/why-does-boots-sell-homeopathy-like-its-real-medicine/
16:01:34 <sbp> haha. check out number 8: http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/culture/neilmccormick/100007261/the-greatest-front-men-of-all-time/
16:01:43 <sbp> I mean literally the number "8"
16:04:22 <sbp> "My colleague Boris Johnson’s dad Stanley occasionally pops up in the media looking exactly like Boris, and there’s nothing more embarrassing than visibly turning into your parents."
16:05:32 <Arnia> "The Smiley Face that precedes Bob Marley’s entry, by the way, has been apparently inserted by computer and refuses to dislodge. I guess somebody out there is a big reggae fan"
16:07:57 <sbp> hehe
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16:17:31 <Arnia> I like that someone mentioned Viv Stanshall
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16:31:09 <sbp> .title http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/asia-pacific/8589507.stm
16:31:11 <phenny> sbp: BBC News - South Korean navy ship 'sinking near North'
16:31:18 <sbp> apparently torpedoed by an as yet unknown craft
16:35:35 <sbp> "If the North did attack the South's ship, the likely reason would have been to raise tension ahead of its return to the nuclear talks." — http://www.alertnet.org/thenews/newsdesk/TOE62P0A3.htm
16:37:41 <Arnia> http://uxmag.com/design/the-impossible-bloomberg-makeover
16:38:38 <sbp> biggar pix pls
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16:40:32 <sbp> oh, there is a biggar pix. great!
16:41:27 <sbp> okay, biggar pix is not great
16:44:52 <sbp> ah, some names:
16:44:53 <sbp> —
16:44:54 <sbp> The South Korean "Pohang"-class Patrol Combat Corvette "Cheonan" has been reported sunk in the Yellow Sea near the border between North and South Korea. Gunfire has been reported and the sinking appears to have the result of hostile actions by one or more North Korean vessels.
16:44:55 <sbp> —
16:45:00 <sbp> http://therichmonder.blogspot.com/2010/03/south-korean-corvette-cheonan-reported.html
16:45:25 <sbp> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pohang_class_corvette
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16:54:40 <sbp> check out the low-tech map:
16:54:40 <sbp> http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/mar/26/south-korea-navy-ship-attack
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16:57:31 <sbp> "A military source told the agency the Cheonan was holed in the stern near its propeller."
16:57:37 <sbp> — http://news.malaysia.msn.com/regional/article.aspx?cp-documentid=3993932
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16:59:39 <sbp> Reuters source for the earlier comment: http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSTRE62P3JA20100326
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17:03:43 <sbp> hehe, check this out:
17:03:45 <sbp> .title http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/mar/19/raj-patel-colbert-report-benjamin-creme
17:03:47 <phenny> sbp: I'm not the messiah, says food activist – but his many worshippers do not believe him | World news | The Guardian
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17:05:52 <sbp> .title http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/mar/22/un-cities-mega-regions
17:05:54 <phenny> sbp: UN report: World's biggest cities merging into 'mega-regions' | World news | guardian.co.uk
17:06:15 <Talliesin> Yeah, one of the funnier cases of someone a small sect decides is divine saying they aren't (which happens more often than you might think).
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17:11:45 <jeanniecool> It's Friday.
17:12:14 <treed> It is.
17:12:22 <[[sroracle]]> Is it really?
17:12:26 <treed> Except in like two time zones.
17:12:38 <[[sroracle]]> This timezone is like really messing me up.
17:12:44 <[[sroracle]]> I'll be glad when I'm back home.
17:13:28 <treed> actually 5 timezones
17:13:48 <[[sroracle]]> They should stop living in the past.
17:13:50 <[[sroracle]]> Jerks.
17:13:55 <treed> Future, actually.
17:13:58 <treed> IT's already Saturday there.
17:14:06 <[[sroracle]]> Really?
17:14:09 <treed> I think
17:14:14 <[[sroracle]]> We should stop living in the past.
17:14:17 <treed> my brain isn't really good at math today
17:14:21 <[[sroracle]]> Then I can watch SNL a day early.
17:14:23 <[[sroracle]]> \o/
17:14:32 <[[sroracle]]> Don't worry
17:14:38 <[[sroracle]]> My brain is never good at math :p
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17:22:54 <jeanniecool> treed, where are you?
17:23:02 <treed> Near SF
17:27:55 <Arnia> .title http://www.nytimes.com/2010/03/26/science/earth/26star.html?sudsredirect=true
17:27:56 <phenny> Arnia: Audit Finds Vulnerability of EnergyStar Program - NYTimes.com
17:28:06 <Arnia> Funnier than it sounds
17:28:42 <sbp> agreed
17:28:48 <sbp> ‘an “air purifier” that was essentially an electric space heater with a feather duster pasted on top’
17:30:28 <jeanniecool> treed, I'm an eejit. I misread [10:13] <treed> IT's already Saturday there. as s/there/here/ :-)
17:31:15 * Arnia just learnt how to read US legal references
17:31:29 <Arnia> not sure why
17:32:02 <jeanniecool> It's a useful skill.
17:34:37 <treed> heh
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17:51:53 <Monty> it's appletizer!
17:53:17 <sbp> Arnia: http://desandro.com/articles/opera-logo-css/
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17:53:34 <Arnia> sbp: http://gizmodo.com/5502775/land-peel-floor-mat-folds-up-tables-and-seats-for-daily-use
17:54:08 <sbp> in the old days, people used to exchange business cards
17:54:45 <Arnia> Hyperlinks are more fun
17:55:34 <sbp> and often illustrated in lavish technicolor, as were our links
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17:57:38 <sbp> I think the lamp is cheating though
17:57:59 <Arnia> add OLED lighting panels to the mat
17:58:09 <sbp> ooh, yeah
17:59:04 * jeanniecool puts all her info in a Lite-Brite (tm) and carries it around with her
17:59:32 <sbp> .wik Lite-Brite
17:59:32 <phenny> "Lite-Brite is an electric toy introduced in 1967 by Hasbro that allows lit pictures to be created." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lite-Brite
18:01:46 <clsn> Wow, I remember that.
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18:03:56 <jeanniecool> d00d, I told you I was old, clsn. :-P
18:04:12 <clsn> Heh... :)
18:04:35 <clsn> To be sure, I don't remember the lite-brite being *introduced*. But I do remember having one.
18:05:43 <jeanniecool> Okay, I'm not THAT old.
18:06:51 <[bjoern]> penis.
18:07:01 <sbp> http://westciv.com/tools/3Dtransforms/index.html
18:07:27 <clsn> If there are still lite-brites around, they could be made SO much better now with today's tech.
18:07:41 <sbp> yeah, hmm
18:07:48 <sbp> they should make the pegs really small and flat
18:07:55 <sbp> and hide them behind some kind of perspex
18:08:03 <sbp> there could be like a hundred to an inch or so
18:08:15 <sbp> and instead of bonking them in by hand, you could use programs of some kind
18:08:18 <sbp> would be pretty nifty
18:08:20 <jeanniecool> ...prolly not the best things for kids.
18:08:24 * jeanniecool snorks at SeanB
18:08:55 <jeanniecool> (the small choking hazards, I mean)
18:09:32 <clsn> They weren't such a brilliant move back in the 70s either, but nobody seemed to mind.
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18:09:58 <sbp> the world wasn't so fucked up that then that it had to rely on kids to fix it
18:10:03 <sbp> *back then
18:10:25 <clsn> (and yes, I can still here the jingle in my head...)
18:10:31 <jeanniecool> heh
18:10:48 * jeanniecool does not remember the jingle :-P
18:11:51 <clsn> I only remember the first one the article mentions.
18:11:57 <sbp> I imagine it went something like blumma bum dum dum dumma blumma dum dum bumma bum blumma blumma blum bum (blumma blum!) dumma dum blum dumma blum blumma-dumma-blum-blum blumma bum dum blumma dumma blum
18:12:48 * jeanniecool goes to read it
18:13:00 <jeanniecool> SeanB, am I gonna hafta sedate you?
18:13:08 <clsn> I could probably tap on a keyboard and work out the notes for the two or three measures I can remember.
18:14:20 <clsn> sbp: have you seen the Page of Antique Weirdness? I was showing it to jeanniecool yesternight.
18:14:41 <sbp> der bisher nicht von mir gesehen
18:15:46 <clsn> http://www.antiqueweird.com/weird.html
18:17:38 <sbp> http://www.antiqueweird.com/Rape-All.gif
18:18:39 <sbp> I've seen some of these before
18:19:15 <[bjoern]> penis.
18:19:30 <jeanniecool> Hmm. I somehow missed that one, SeanB!
18:19:40 <MaienM_> yes [bjoern], penis
18:19:54 <[bjoern]> I wonder, does "am I gonna hafta sedate you?" work as a pickup line?
18:20:27 <clsn> How about "I'm already picturing you with duct tape over your mouth"?
18:21:18 <[bjoern]> Well females usually don't like imagination.
18:21:29 <sbp> http://www.antiqueweird.com/choice04.jpg
18:21:45 * jeanniecool backs away slowly from clsn and [bjoern]....
18:22:47 <clsn> sbp: we thought that one was unusually unbiased for that sort of thing.
18:22:58 <Talliesin> I advise working up to such pick-up lines, so as to get a bit of an idea as to the biases of the woman in question.
18:23:08 * jeanniecool licks Talliesin
18:23:42 <jeanniecool> Yeah, SeanB, it makes all three look glamorous.
18:23:50 <[bjoern]> More and more people get sacked for not twittering, "senior vice president of sales James Roppo was arrested and held overnight by Nassau County police for not sending a tweet from Bieber's Twitter page" - http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSTRE62L08320100322
18:24:07 <Talliesin> Certainly, threatening to spank a certain young lady, and suggesting that she would look pretty if tied up with ribbons, did work very well.
18:24:40 <jeanniecool> Rock on, Talliesin. :-D
18:25:00 <clsn> Oh shit, I didn't send a tweet either!
18:25:13 <[bjoern]> She might simply have had an interest in penis, though.
18:25:28 <Talliesin> And indeed, is still working quite well some four and a half years later, with a marriage planned for later in the year.
18:25:35 <jeanniecool> awww
18:25:39 <jeanniecool> congrats, Talliesin!
18:27:01 <jeanniecool> love++
18:29:05 <Talliesin> Indeed :)
18:32:12 <Arnia> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CIDw75mUl6c
18:32:15 <Arnia> .title
18:32:16 <phenny> Arnia: YouTube - How to Dial a Rotary Telephone
18:35:00 <sbp> the various tones are brilliant
18:39:29 <nwalsh> Linkinus puts media links *inline*. That's brilliant and scary.
18:41:38 <sbp> "Picking 1,000 voters by dialling random phone numbers - one technique - might, by some freak of chance, give you a sample that includes 200 anarchists or 300 Natural Law yogic flyers." — http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/magazine/8588747.stm
18:42:26 <[bjoern]> And probably 500 americans.
18:42:47 <sbp> "After all this, at the last five general elections, Labour support has still been consistently exaggerated in the opinion polls and no one is quite sure why."
18:43:09 <[bjoern]> Distract Blair?
18:43:13 <sbp> oh man, there's a really funny bit at the end of the article
18:43:18 <sbp> but it won't make any sense out of context
18:43:24 <sbp> you have to read the article, which is unfortunate
18:43:48 <[bjoern]> You also have to be british.
18:44:21 <sbp> only 50%
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18:44:51 <[bjoern]> Who is more british than that?
18:45:20 <sbp> Mr. Brittas
18:45:37 <[bjoern]> .wik Mr. Brittas
18:45:38 <phenny> "Start the Mr. Brittas article, using the Article Wizard if you wish, or add a request for it." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mr._Brittas
18:46:17 <Arnia> .c 1 million EUR in USD
18:46:17 <phenny> 1 million Euros = 1.3343 million U.S. dollars
18:46:17 <Monty> "you"
18:46:33 <Arnia> .c 1 million GBP in USD
18:46:33 <phenny> 1 million British pounds = 1.4883 million U.S. dollars
18:46:39 <Arnia> shocking
18:46:53 <sbp> http://i.imgur.com/evH7H.jpg
18:47:03 <sbp> .wik The Brittas Empire
18:47:03 <phenny> "The Brittas Empire is a British sitcom created and originally written by Richard Fegen and Andrew Norriss." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Brittas_Empire
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18:50:24 <jeanniecool> phenny, tell Talliesin thanks anyway. :-)
18:50:24 <phenny> jeanniecool: I'll pass that on when Talliesin is around.
18:50:54 <[bjoern]> Seems more likely that the population of Harmony would be 20 by now.
18:52:12 <sbp> Arnia: http://desandro.com/resources/jquery-masonry/
18:52:30 <[bjoern]> evil url.
18:52:45 <[bjoern]> good urls are opaque.
18:54:39 <Arnia> sbp: add Ecsstender support for float: top and float: bottom using it
18:54:44 <sbp> sorry, try http://5z8.info/asian-brides_w5s5h_INCREDIBLE-DEAL-CANT-MISS
18:55:08 <[bjoern]> IS INCREDIBLE
18:55:51 * jeanniecool loves shadyurl
18:58:18 <sbp> http://www.flickr.com/photos/george_eastman_house/3122875223/
18:58:41 <[bjoern]> I sense you are building up to youtube urls.
18:59:04 <sbp> breaking down to them
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19:20:59 <jeanniecool> You're gonna need another someone to mug, SeanB.
19:28:49 <[bjoern]> Any volunteers for a good mugging?
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19:31:09 <Monty> Thank goodness, H0gan is back!
19:31:16 * H0gan poses
19:34:18 <[bjoern]> I take that as volunteering
19:34:41 * jeanniecool hopes he's loaded, [bjoern]
19:40:08 <[bjoern]> I so do too.
19:42:18 <jeanniecool> :-)
19:42:48 <[bjoern]> .gc "Will penis for riches"
19:42:49 <phenny> "Will penis for riches": 0
19:43:01 <[bjoern]> .leo Marktlücke
19:43:02 <phenny> die Marktlücke = market gap (comm.), market niche (comm.)
19:43:03 <phenny> eine Marktlücke schließen = to bridge a gap in the market
19:43:04 <phenny> — http://dict.leo.org/ende?search=Marktl%C3%BCcke
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20:13:53 <Arnia> .c 16/9
20:13:54 <phenny> 16 / 9 = 1.77777778
20:37:31 <BigJibby> .gs jeanniecool: *
20:37:32 <phenny> jeanniecool: *: pedometer, o. m. g)
20:40:38 <BigJibby> ,g pedometre
20:40:48 <BigJibby> .g pedometer
20:40:48 <phenny> BigJibby: http://www.gmap-pedometer.com/
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20:41:56 <BigJibby> .g pedometre
20:41:57 <phenny> BigJibby: http://www.gmap-pedometer.com/
20:42:49 <BigJibby> what does a pedometre messure?
20:43:22 <BigJibby> ah
20:43:30 <BigJibby> .w pedometer
20:43:32 <phenny> pedometer — noun: 1. A device, often electronic, that measures the number of steps taken, and thus estimates the distance walked
20:43:55 * jeanniecool doesn't know what the "gs" is supposed to do, BigJibby
20:44:11 <BigJibby> "Google Suggest"
20:44:15 <jeanniecool> ah
20:44:16 <jeanniecool> danke.
20:44:26 <jeanniecool> Hmmm.
20:44:28 <BigJibby> I was expecting penis to be one
20:44:34 <jeanniecool> LOL
20:44:35 * jeanniecool grins
20:44:57 <jsled> .gs a device, often electronic, that *
20:44:58 <phenny> jsled: measures (6), measure (3)
20:45:05 <jsled> .gs a device, often electronic, *
20:45:05 <phenny> jsled: that measures (2)
20:45:08 <jsled> :P
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20:45:40 <jeanniecool> Hmm.
20:45:54 <jeanniecool> That makes the "pedometer" v. weird.
20:48:04 <BigJibby> maybe you were messuring the pedo
20:48:17 <jeanniecool> .gs penis *
20:48:18 <phenny> penis *: enlargement (12), (9), size (6), theft panic (4), that (4)
20:48:33 <jeanniecool> "penis theft panic". Fascinating.
20:48:46 <BigJibby> I always panic when my penis is stolen
20:48:54 <[bjoern]> jeanniecool does, too
20:48:57 <jeanniecool> ...that's a fair point, BigJibby. :-)
20:49:00 <jeanniecool> lulz
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21:04:51 <Arnia> Why do people find this odd? http://www.tuaw.com/2010/03/26/steve-jobs-and-eric-schmidt-share-a-coffee/
21:05:28 <[bjoern]> Because sharing is communism.
21:09:11 <Arnia> nü
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21:49:59 <nsh> phenny, en fi "platonic"?
21:50:00 <phenny> nsh: "platonilaisena" (en to fi, translate.google.com)
21:52:26 <Arnia> USians may be hearing from Jonathan from Spotify soon
21:52:43 <Arnia> (according to http://gizmodo.com/5502815/why-its-worth-getting-excited-for-spotifys-us-launch )
21:56:21 * jeanniecool sighs as she waits for a password reset email
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22:19:35 <Arnia> jeanniecool: spotifian password reset?
22:20:13 <jeanniecool> Um, no.
22:20:18 <jeanniecool> groupon. :-)
22:24:07 <sbp> yo
22:28:30 * jeanniecool tickles SeanB
22:28:40 * jeanniecool is buyin' coupons for cupcakes!!
22:29:13 <sbp> why not just buy cupcakes direct?
22:29:27 <jeanniecool> B/c the coupon gets me 53% off!
22:29:38 <jeanniecool> (they're expensive but way yum)
22:31:10 <sbp> ooh
22:31:38 <jeanniecool> http://www.cupcakeroyale.com/
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22:59:31 <Monty> hi shepazu, how ya doing?
23:01:41 * jeanniecool will buy you a cupcake when you come to visit, sbp
23:03:39 <sbp> :-)
23:03:57 <[bjoern]> bring your penis.
23:04:33 * jeanniecool would hope it's not actually detachable, [bjoern]
23:04:50 <deltab> as the old advert had it, "Don't leave home without it"
23:05:01 * jeanniecool giggles at deltab
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