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00:40:53 <jeanniecool> SeanB, are you in bed? If not, you certainly should be.
01:09:06 <Arnia> http://www.gelatinouscubefacts.com/
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05:40:46 <BigJibby> Monty, what does jesus taste like?
05:40:49 <Monty> It seems that your home's tinkering beer prefers SuSE scary bezlers...
05:41:05 <BigJibby> Monty, ass
05:41:07 <Monty> http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/COUCHDB-431
05:47:09 <BigJibby> Monty, what
05:47:10 <Monty> actually start of couchdb/couchapp
05:47:18 <BigJibby> Monty, ok
05:47:21 <Monty> () :-) atleast i removed the three five general and wildlife
05:47:36 <BigJibby> Monty, you are good
05:47:39 <Monty> if (kneecap == simpletons) { evidence installs Sega zoo;}
05:48:06 <BigJibby> if Monty == human, total world fail
05:48:09 <Monty> http://www.antiqueweird.com/Rape-All.gif
05:48:44 <BigJibby> Monty, wtf?
05:48:46 <Monty> sorry but no sugar :) indeed
05:48:59 <BigJibby> Monty, are you diabetic?
05:49:00 <Monty> hmmm i like ryan reynolds
05:49:10 <BigJibby> apparently you are, Monty
05:49:13 <Monty> envelopes reminds me of pelican crossing.
05:53:39 <BigJibby> Monty, seed
05:53:42 <Monty> I reckon bunions + waffle = LuRcH-esque cohorts.
05:53:49 <BigJibby> Monty, waffle
05:53:56 <Monty> Hmm, a 30% of it. which pulls apps can figure this info currently) and erlang map reduce tech, friction, or jchris, jan____ ?
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09:00:03 <Monty> it's jeanniecool!
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12:32:12 <sbp> http://img.ffffound.com/static-data/assets/6/ff07b5e70bcaeb0d8964ba388f107b5f34ef2946_m.jpg
12:33:20 <sbp> http://www.forevergeek.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/03/ipad-flowchart.jpg
12:35:24 <sbp> http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_nswHPYi_dEw/S6zv-WQNzuI/AAAAAAAAKC0/59SzhmdVfKQ/s640/P1030012.JPG
12:36:44 <sbp> what in the FUCK:
12:36:45 <sbp> http://www.doobybrain.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/03/what-americans-think-of-obama.jpg
12:36:55 <sbp> I hope that poll was really, really badly conducted
12:37:50 <sbp> seriously, one in twenty *Democrats* believe he may be the Anti-Christ?
12:38:06 <sbp> MIND A SPLODE
12:38:40 * sbp -> http://www.harrisinteractive.com/
12:39:04 <sbp> -> http://www.harrisinteractive.com/MethodsTools.aspx
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13:09:08 <Monty> it's Moira-phone!
13:15:19 <[bjoern]> Once more Thomas Pynchon appears in google search results for no reason.
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16:35:17 <CIA-65> phenny-ws: 03nslater@me.com * r171 10/wiki/ServiceDefinitions.wiki: Edited wiki page through web user interface.
16:35:49 <CIA-65> phenny-ws: 03nslater@me.com * r172 10/wiki/ServiceDefinitions.wiki: Edited wiki page through web user interface.
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17:09:22 <Monty> welcome, lisppaste2
17:32:33 <CIA-65> phenny-ws: 03nslater@me.com * r173 10/wiki/ServiceDefinitions.wiki: Edited wiki page through web user interface.
17:32:43 <CIA-65> phenny-ws: 03nslater@me.com * r174 10/wiki/ServiceDefinitions.wiki: Edited wiki page through web user interface.
17:32:55 <CIA-65> phenny-ws: 03nslater@me.com * r175 10/wiki/ServiceDefinitions.wiki: Edited wiki page through web user interface.
17:33:17 <CIA-65> phenny-ws: 03nslater@me.com * r176 10/wiki/ServiceDefinitions.wiki: Edited wiki page through web user interface.
17:33:37 <CIA-65> phenny-ws: 03nslater@me.com * r177 10/wiki/ServiceDefinitions.wiki: Edited wiki page through web user interface.
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20:25:15 <Monty> Thank goodness, cre8radix is back!
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20:53:49 <[bjoern]> So, you have some people and each of them knows a secret (0 or 1). They want to find out the sum of the secrets without individually revealing their secret. List working and/or hilarious solutions.
20:54:32 <[bjoern]> Interesting would be if they all guess the sum and share their guesses, then use that as input to take another guess, until they arrive at some rough consensus.
20:59:05 <sbp> interesting but it wouldn't work
20:59:18 <sbp> because you could never know just from your own datum what the sum is going to be
20:59:25 <sbp> and that's the only data each of you ever have
21:00:02 <[bjoern]> Yeah but the opportunities for confusion and trolling are great.
21:00:27 <sbp> if all you want are opportunities for confusion and trolling, just say something sensible in front of a politician
21:01:02 <[bjoern]> Politicians don't confuse me.
21:01:10 <sbp> no, you'd be confusing them
21:01:13 <sbp> so the rumours go
21:01:26 <[bjoern]> I don't need a politician for that.
21:01:44 <sbp> also, there's no way any system can be foolproof
21:01:49 <[bjoern]> I can do it with a rubber chicken with a pulley in the middle, say.
21:01:54 <sbp> an example: say there are five people whose secret is "1"
21:02:05 <sbp> if they find out the sum is "5", then all the secrets are revealed
21:02:30 <[bjoern]> Well that's a trivial case though then.
21:02:39 <sbp> yeah but it might be important
21:02:55 <sbp> this happens in any case where group size > 1 and all have the same secret
21:02:59 <[bjoern]> I agree it is a valid point, so let's call the trivial cases exceptions.
21:03:05 <sbp> okay
21:03:25 <sbp> are you looking for physical ways, or digital ways?
21:03:48 <sbp> oh, I have an idea
21:03:49 <[bjoern]> Any ways. I might even have read about a crypto solution once
21:04:40 <sbp> an independent invigilator goes into a room where there's an empty bucket and many balls around the bucket. at least twice as many as people in the group
21:04:40 <[bjoern]> Obviously if you involve some additional entity who may know everyone's secret it's trivial.
21:04:44 <sbp> he puts a number of balls into the bucket
21:05:05 <sbp> then each person is called into the room without any knowing who went in before one another. they must be held in separate rooms and called at separate times
21:05:13 <sbp> if their secret is 1, they put a ball in the bucket
21:05:18 <sbp> if not, they wait and then come out
21:05:29 <sbp> then at the end, the original man goes in and takes his number of balls out of the bucket
21:05:30 <[bjoern]> You could use intermediaries (like, one person collects the secret of two of the group, ... then another person takes the sum of two intermediaries, and so on)
21:05:50 <sbp> yeah, but my way is awesome and fullproof so you don't need any other ways
21:06:05 <sbp> but it does depend on the trustworthiness of the independent guy and those calling the people
21:06:06 <[bjoern]> You didn't put it in 40 characters.
21:06:14 <sbp> okay, lemme try
21:06:23 <[bjoern]> .leo invigilator
21:06:34 <[bjoern]> phenny died the other minute
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21:07:38 <sbp> .py len('seed counter, add secrets, unseed counter')
21:07:39 <phenny> KeyError: 'py' (file "/var/www/inamidst.com/htdocs/phenny/modules/oblique.py", line 33, in service)
21:07:44 <sbp> phenny: reload services
21:07:45 <phenny> ImportError: No module named services (file "/var/www/inamidst.com/htdocs/phenny/modules/reload.py", line 26, in f_reload)
21:07:48 <sbp> phenny: reload *
21:07:49 <phenny> sbp: done
21:07:53 <sbp> .py len('seed counter, add secrets, unseed counter')
21:07:54 <phenny> KeyError: 'py' (file "/var/www/inamidst.com/htdocs/phenny/modules/oblique.py", line 33, in service)
21:07:57 <sbp> wtf
21:08:05 <sbp> NSLATER FIX
21:08:18 <sbp> >>> len('seed counter, add secrets, unseed counter')
21:08:18 <sbp> 41
21:08:18 <sbp> >>>
21:08:19 <sbp> perfect
21:08:40 <[bjoern]> Well done.
21:09:18 <nslater> hmm?
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21:09:26 <sbp> nslater: services aren't working again
21:09:29 <nslater> why?
21:09:41 <nslater> looks like a phenny bug to me
21:09:45 <sbp> I don't know, so I immediately blamed you to divert attention from what is probably my fault
21:09:46 <[bjoern]> I wonder if you can eliminate the seed knower and prevent cheating.
21:09:48 <nslater> oh
21:09:50 <nslater> yeah
21:09:55 <nslater> 21:07 < phenny> KeyError: 'py' (file "/var/www/inamidst.com/htdocs/phenny/modules/oblique.py", line 33, in service)
21:10:19 <nslater> seems like an error in your files
21:10:21 <sbp> yes I saw that, but what is there a KeyError?
21:10:32 <sbp> no way, your files
21:10:41 <nslater> the keyerror is in your file
21:10:47 <nslater> line 33 to be precise
21:10:48 <nslater> heh
21:10:53 <sbp> but's caused by your file
21:10:54 <nslater> i dunno mang
21:10:55 <nslater> how?
21:11:01 <sbp> because it's not getting the service
21:11:16 <nslater> .o py print 1
21:11:18 <phenny> 1
21:11:21 <nslater> seems to work to me
21:11:35 <sbp> .py 1
21:11:36 <phenny> 1
21:12:16 <sbp> good, if it's not idempotent I don't have to fix it
21:12:25 <[bjoern]> another job well ignored.
21:12:30 <sbp> danke!
21:12:33 <nslater> .py 1
21:12:33 <nslater> .py 1
21:12:34 <phenny> 1
21:12:34 <nslater> .py 1
21:12:35 <nslater> .py 1
21:12:35 <phenny> 1
21:12:35 <nslater> .py 1
21:12:36 <phenny> 1
21:12:36 <phenny> ...
21:12:37 <phenny> ...
21:12:38 <nslater> .py 1
21:12:38 <phenny> ...
21:12:40 <nslater> .py 1
21:12:41 <phenny> 1
21:12:42 <[bjoern]> .leo leo
21:12:43 <phenny> Leo = Löwe (Sternzeichen)
21:12:44 <phenny> Leo (astr.) = Löwe (Sternbild)
21:12:45 <phenny> Leo Minor (astr.) = Kleiner Löwe (Sternbild)
21:12:46 <phenny> — http://dict.leo.org/ende?search=leo
21:12:47 <nslater> .py len('seed counter, add secrets, unseed counter')
21:12:47 <phenny> 41
21:13:02 <nslater> another bug chalked up to The Mysteries Of The Universe
21:14:52 <sbp> nevermind, it is a phenny bug
21:14:55 <sbp> hoping to have fixed it
21:15:06 <sbp> we shall see, my pretties. we shall see
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21:15:49 <sbp> .py 1
21:15:53 <phenny> KeyError: 'py' (file "/var/www/inamidst.com/htdocs/phenny/modules/oblique.py", line 33, in service)
21:15:59 <sbp> .o py 1
21:16:01 <phenny> 1
21:16:04 <sbp> .py 1
21:16:04 <phenny> 1
21:16:10 <sbp> m'kay
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21:16:49 <sbp> .py 1
21:16:55 <phenny> KeyError: 'py' (file "/var/www/inamidst.com/htdocs/phenny/modules/oblique.py", line 38, in service)
21:17:03 <sbp> phenny: reload *
21:17:03 <phenny> sbp: done
21:17:04 <sbp> .py 1
21:17:05 <phenny> KeyError: 'py' (file "/var/www/inamidst.com/htdocs/phenny/modules/oblique.py", line 38, in service)
21:17:09 <sbp> whatever then
21:17:11 <sbp> .o py 1
21:17:12 <phenny> NameError: global name 'services' is not defined (file "/var/www/inamidst.com/htdocs/phenny/modules/oblique.py", line 55, in o)
21:17:21 <sbp> oh great, now I broke it entirely
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21:19:42 <sbp> phenny: reload *
21:19:42 <phenny> sbp: done
21:19:44 <sbp> .o py 1
21:19:56 <sbp> better
21:20:13 <sbp> phenny: reload *
21:20:14 <phenny> sbp: done
21:20:15 <sbp> .o py 1
21:20:19 <phenny> 1
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