2010-04-01 Swhack IRC Log

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00:52:23 <BigJibby> Monty, what are you?
00:52:23 <Monty> Have you asked such questions before ?
00:52:28 <BigJibby> no
00:52:38 <BigJibby> Monty, what are you?
00:52:39 <Monty> also, lo
00:52:43 <BigJibby> hi
00:52:51 <BigJibby> Monty, what are you?
00:52:53 <Monty> oh these ridiculous sharp japanese knifes...
00:53:01 <BigJibby> ahh!
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01:49:13 <jsled> .gcs * Bullock
01:49:13 <phenny> Bullock (3,370,000), * (0)
01:49:23 <jsled> .gcs * Sandra Bullock
01:49:23 <phenny> Sandra (9,610,000), Bullock (3,370,000), * (0)
01:49:27 <jsled> :p
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03:44:27 <Monty> lo MacTed
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06:58:58 <thelsdj> charles stross has a wall of text april fools: http://www.antipope.org/charlie/blog-static/2010/04/psa-new-book-deal.html
07:06:28 <thelsdj> http://www.dresdencodak.com/cinema.html
07:11:44 <thelsdj> ok, youtube text mode is pretty cool
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10:35:04 <Monty> bah, it's JibberJim again
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10:42:40 <sbp> yo
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11:50:44 <[bjoern]> nuyo
11:52:02 <sbp> perhaps you are not really here
11:52:10 <sbp> perhaps your appearing to be here is an April Fool's day JOKE
11:52:25 <sbp> next you will be telling me that you are well fed and happy
11:52:39 <[bjoern]> since when have i become funny like that
11:52:52 <sbp> I actually had a dream about this last night
11:52:56 <sbp> you put something up for sale on ebay
11:53:04 <sbp> and there was a photo of you in your profile!
11:53:12 <sbp> but then I thought about it and I thought wait, that's not like him
11:53:16 <sbp> it must be a red herring
11:53:22 <[bjoern]> hmm herring
11:53:30 <[bjoern]> I'm hungry
11:53:35 <[bjoern]> thanks
11:53:39 <sbp> sadly I can't remember what it was you were selling
11:53:43 <sbp> perhaps it was your dignity
11:54:00 <[bjoern]> quite possible
11:54:15 <[bjoern]> never had much use for that anyway
11:54:45 <sbp> actually I think it was a piece of dream technology
11:54:57 <sbp> something like an iPod / camera hybrid
11:55:02 <sbp> as if such a thing could possibly exist
11:57:47 <sbp> propose we rename April Fool's Day to "People Try To Be Funny and Fail Day". actually perhaps that's what April Fools *means*
11:58:27 <sbp> today is like a play where comedy dies over and over again on stage
11:58:41 <sbp> to the rapturous applause of the already drunken crowd
11:59:05 <sbp> I don't mind particularly
11:59:17 <sbp> we can usually find at least one bit of comedy on every other day of the year
11:59:23 <sbp> today is like comedy Lent
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14:07:06 <[bjoern]> I IT IS? MAYBE.
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14:09:34 <Monty> hi libby_, how ya doing?
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14:13:07 <sbp> you're just trying to retrotrick us again
14:13:21 <sbp> you're like a retroflex adverb gone nuclear
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14:15:25 <Monty> bah, it's libby__ again
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15:45:54 <thelsdj> mornin
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16:04:34 <thelsdj> github has a nice one, they added svn support, and it actually works
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16:50:09 <Monty> Speak of the devil, it's libby!
17:17:37 <sbp> http://uncyclopedia.wikia.com/wiki/User:Asswards/Hitler,_North_Dakota
17:19:06 <sbp> UNCLE SAMBALLS
17:21:50 *** sbp changed the topic to: "$100 to enter Swhack. Canadian. YOU PAY NOW"
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17:43:30 <sbp> http://img.ffffound.com/static-data/assets/6/b4d937f51ba46d77f00ab6900f929c44f5844f3b_m.jpg
17:44:39 <sbp> http://seattlest.com/attachments/Amy%20Mikel/2010_3_31_passiveaggressivenotes.jpg
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18:08:22 <sbp> "And you can’t read books from the Apple bookstore on any other machine — not even a Mac or iPhone." - http://www.nytimes.com/2010/04/01/technology/personaltech/01pogue.html
18:12:06 <archels> UK English - outward or outwards?
18:12:09 <MacTed> http://www.kernel.org/
18:14:04 <sbp> MacTed: hehe
18:14:26 <MacTed> archels - usually without the s ... but sometimes with.
18:20:02 <archels> alright, thank you
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19:26:49 <Monty> But what does kpreid have to do with the price of fish?
19:27:12 <[bjoern]> He is carrying a red herring, monty.
19:27:17 <Monty> There's one more important: the pop-down search is only expecting one. :) if i doubt
19:27:28 <[bjoern]> Then don't doubt, Monty.
19:27:31 <Monty> kinda answers my todo list format, and do his comeuppance?
19:29:23 <sbp> .g "Real Racing HD" "Flight Control HD" "Brushes - iPad Edition" "iShop Cloud" "KAYAK Flights"
19:29:23 <phenny> sbp: No results found for '"Real Racing HD" "Flight Control HD" "Brushes - iPad Edition" "iShop Cloud" "KAYAK Flights"'.
19:29:30 <sbp> .g "Real Racing HD" "Flight Control HD" "Brushes - iPad Edition"
19:29:31 <phenny> sbp: http://www.ipadinsider.com/
19:30:08 <[bjoern]> .wik Spätzle
19:30:09 <phenny> "Spätzle [ˈʃpɛtslə] (help·info) (swabian diminutive of Spatz, thus literally 'little sparrow', also Spätzli or Chnöpfli in Switzerland or Knöpfle or Hungarian nokedli) are a type of egg noodle of soft texture found in the cuisine of Germany and of Austria, [...]" - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spätzle
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20:03:04 <sbp> .gc "Magic Piano" Smule
20:03:04 <phenny> "Magic Piano" Smule: 23
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20:07:36 <Monty> hi libby
20:09:03 <sbp> .gc "Geneva for iPad"
20:09:03 <phenny> "Geneva for iPad": 3
20:09:30 <sbp> http://appadvice.com/appnn/2010/03/definitive-list-ipad-apps/
20:09:57 <sbp> http://appadvice.com/appcollections/view/ipad-apps
20:11:09 <jsled> http://techcrunch.com/2010/04/01/new-york-times-ipad/
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20:15:15 <sbp> this actually looks kinda cool:
20:15:16 <sbp> http://appadvice.com/ipad-app/356340282
20:18:16 <sbp> oh good, Star Walk: http://appadvice.com/ipad-app/363486802
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20:42:16 <sbp> sounds good, but damn check the price:
20:42:16 <sbp> http://appadvice.com/ipad-app/358857758
20:42:49 <theresaanna> sbp: I don't think $10 is much to pay for a really well made app
20:43:24 <theresaanna> more than that is overkill, though
20:43:41 <sbp> yeah, but when there are fifty really well made apps that you want...
20:43:59 <sbp> this one is pretty top of the list though, it's very good on the iPhone
20:44:15 <theresaanna> sbp: true. in the case of the iphone, i think there are only a few that i would actually consider paying that much for
20:47:43 <sbp> this reminds me a lot of getting my first PC and spending hours and hours looking for programs. same kind of results too - hundreds of really bad results and then something that makes you go "hmm!"
20:48:07 * jeanniecool makes SeanB go "hmm!"
20:48:14 <sbp> still think that Apple need some kind of better ratings thing
20:48:18 <sbp> hmm!
20:48:23 <jeanniecool> See?
20:48:24 <jeanniecool> :-)
20:51:14 <sbp> stuff people in here missed because I didn't paste it here:
20:51:15 <sbp> http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/seealso/2010/04/apples_ipad.html
20:51:25 <sbp> http://twitpic.com/1casht
20:51:33 <sbp> http://gizmodo.com/5507037/ipad-mega-meta-review-works-great-no-surprises
20:51:42 <sbp> http://www.pcmag.com/slideshow/0,1206,l%253D249673%2526a%253D247878,00.asp
20:51:50 <sbp> http://www.boingboing.net/2010/03/31/a-first-look-at-ipad.html
20:51:56 <sbp> http://periodictable.com/ipad/preview/index.html
20:52:46 <jsled> yes, but can you buy Penis on the iPad?
20:53:01 <sbp> pads aren't for penises, jsled
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21:11:09 <[bjoern]> .leo Universalgelehrter
21:11:10 <phenny> — http://dict.leo.org/ende?search=Universalgelehrter
21:11:22 <[bjoern]> .wik polymath
21:11:22 <phenny> "A polymath (Greek polymathēs, πολυμαθής, 'having learned much')[1]| is a person, with superior intelligence, whose expertise spans a significant number of different subject areas." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polymath
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21:20:58 <Monty> it's tav!
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21:24:27 <sbp> .gc "Confederation of Confederated Confederates"
21:24:27 <phenny> "Confederation of Confederated Confederates": 0
21:24:43 <[bjoern]> .gc "confederated confederation"
21:24:44 <phenny> "confederated confederation": 4
21:25:13 <[bjoern]> .gc "disunited confederation"
21:25:14 <phenny> "disunited confederation": 2
21:25:16 <sbp> .gc "Democracy of Democratized Democrats"
21:25:17 <phenny> "Democracy of Democratized Democrats": 0
21:25:53 <[bjoern]> Most hits for disunited there ~ Bismarck
21:26:07 <sbp> North Dakota?
21:26:16 <sbp> (yes, yes. penis)
21:26:21 <[bjoern]> yes, yes.
21:26:46 <sbp> so how many people did we make $100 off of so far?
21:26:55 <sbp> we've got like $300 from kpreid alone
21:27:05 <[bjoern]> I like how the first google hit for imperium germanicum is la.wp
21:27:20 <sbp> la is Latin one assumeth?
21:27:26 <[bjoern]> one does.
21:28:05 <sbp> what's the smallest two-letter-language-code Wikipedia?
21:28:14 <sbp> in terms of article count
21:28:35 <sbp> this is something you should know off the top of your head
21:28:42 <sbp> you could sell this fact on ebay
21:28:49 <[bjoern]> hz would be a guess
21:29:16 <sbp> mekkin' muhself a clickubul link, y'all: http://hz.wikipedia.org/
21:29:21 <[bjoern]> Going by http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/List_of_Wikipedias - there is http://stats.wikimedia.org/ too though
21:29:38 <[bjoern]> It's supposed to have zero articles besides the main page
21:29:53 <sbp> 'This is the same case as with the Venda Wikipedia: Another zero content Wiki. hz:Special:Recentchanges reveals, that there is no activity except for vandalism and its eventual removal/deletion. The closest to an article on this Wiki is hz:Ombeibela, which is a listing of the books of the bible.'
21:29:54 <[bjoern]> Special:AllPages confirms.
21:30:16 <sbp> the only article was deleted:
21:30:18 <sbp> —
21:30:19 <sbp> This page has been deleted. The deletion and move log for the page are provided below for reference.
21:30:19 <sbp> 14:10, 17 August 2007 MF-Warburg (Talk | contribs) deleted "Ombeibela" ‎ (content was: '{{moved}}')
21:30:19 <sbp> 05:16, 11 January 2007 Bob on wheels (Talk | contribs) moved Ombeibela to Ombeibela ON WHEELS!!!!!!!! ‎
21:30:19 <sbp> 05:56, 20 December 2006 Willy on wheels (Talk | contribs) moved Ombeibela to Ombeibela ON WHEELS! ‎
21:30:21 <sbp> —
21:31:13 <sbp> 'There were two more articles in this wiki, hz:Jesus Kristus and hz:Oparadisa. I chose to delete these articles, as they had no content, both consisted of an image only.'
21:31:34 <[bjoern]> Well you could make this induction. "Everbody agrees we should delete the worst article in the wiki..."
21:32:00 <sbp> it was also the best article, being the only article
21:32:36 <sbp> I read in the news the other day that eating one square of chocolate per day is good for you
21:32:39 <sbp> one square!
21:32:56 <sbp> I've probably inhaled more chocolate than that
21:33:17 <[bjoern]> Are you sure?
21:33:40 <[bjoern]> I suspect you may have consumed mostly non-square chocolate.
21:34:00 <[bjoern]> Especially considering you've this thing with your third and fourth dimension.
21:34:08 <sbp> well admittedly Cadbury's squares are actually slightly rectangular I believe, even in profile
21:34:24 <[bjoern]> the north frisian wikipedia has more mooring articles than hz btw
21:34:37 <sbp> well I should hope so
21:34:43 <sbp> how many does it have?
21:34:47 <[bjoern]> http://incubator.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Wp/frr/Mooring_Artikel
21:34:53 <sbp> give the result in North Frisian if you like
21:35:20 <sbp> phenny: "Spräkekoordinasjoon"?
21:35:20 <phenny> sbp: Language guessing failed, so try suggesting one!
21:35:26 <sbp> phenny: frr "Spräkekoordinasjoon"?
21:35:32 <sbp> phenny: de "Spräkekoordinasjoon"?
21:35:33 <phenny> sbp: "Spräkekoordinasjoon" (de to en, translate.google.com)
21:35:38 <sbp> phenny: nl "Spräkekoordinasjoon"?
21:35:38 <phenny> sbp: "Spräkekoordinasjoon" (nl to en, translate.google.com)
21:35:39 <[bjoern]> you have to specify two language codes anyway
21:35:55 <sbp> I can do what I jolly well want
21:35:59 <[bjoern]> phenny, "Sprachkoordination"?
21:35:59 <phenny> [bjoern]: Language guessing failed, so try suggesting one!
21:36:05 <[bjoern]> phenny, de en "Sprachkoordination"?
21:36:05 <phenny> [bjoern]: "Sprachkoordination" (de to en, translate.google.com)
21:36:09 <[bjoern]> utter fail
21:36:20 <sbp> Google's fault
21:36:52 <[bjoern]> .leo Sprechweise
21:36:53 <phenny> die Sprechweise = speech, manner of speaking, way of speaking
21:36:54 <phenny> gedehnte Sprechweise der Südstaaten = drawl, Southern drawl
21:36:55 <phenny> — http://dict.leo.org/ende?search=Sprechweise
21:37:16 <sbp> .leo drawl
21:37:17 <phenny> drawl = gedehnte Sprache, gedehnte Sprechweise der Südstaaten
21:37:19 <phenny> to drawl = affektiert sprechen, gedehnt sprechen, schleppend sprechen
21:37:19 <phenny> Southern drawl = gedehnte Sprechweise der Südstaaten
21:37:20 <phenny> — http://dict.leo.org/ende?search=drawl
21:37:48 <[bjoern]> .leo Mundart
21:37:49 <phenny> die Mundart = dialect, idiom, patois, vernacular
21:37:50 <phenny> geneigt sein, Mundart zu sprechen = to be apt to use dialect (ling.)
21:37:52 <phenny> gefärbt von der Mundart = coloredAE by the dialect (ling.), colouredBE by the dialect (ling.)
21:37:53 <phenny> — http://dict.leo.org/ende?search=Mundart
21:38:14 <[bjoern]> How do we deal with the unusual (or different) north frisian dialect(s) would be the first heading on the page above
21:39:37 <[bjoern]> There is one frisian language. The differences between the north frisian and west frisian are considerable, and also ... does it continue.
21:40:57 <sbp> this is a great word:
21:40:58 <sbp> üngewöönelk
21:41:09 <sbp> I also like: uk üüb Öömrang
21:41:47 <[bjoern]> .leo ungewöhnlich
21:41:48 <sbp> trying to say 'ma följk üt dåt ååstfrasche Saterlönj koon huum ham' leads to hilarity too
21:41:48 <phenny> ungewöhnlich = abnormal a., anomalous a., exceptional a., exceptionally adv., inconvenient a.
21:41:49 <phenny> umfassend und ungewöhnlich = eclectic a.
21:41:50 <phenny> ungewöhnlich für die Jahreszeit = unseasonable a.
21:41:50 <phenny> — http://dict.leo.org/ende?search=ungew%C3%B6hnlich
21:42:00 <[bjoern]> (unusual, mostly)
21:42:07 <[bjoern]> (usual ~ gewöhnlich)
21:42:20 <[bjoern]> .leo Gewohnheit
21:42:21 <phenny> die Gewohnheit = consuetude, custom, habit, practice, usage
21:42:21 <sbp> -elk is -lich is -ish?
21:42:22 <phenny> aus Gewohnheit = by habit, out of habit
21:42:23 <phenny> eine Gewohnheit annehmen = to acquire a habit
21:42:23 <archels> .leo wöhnen
21:42:24 <phenny> — http://dict.leo.org/ende?search=Gewohnheit
21:42:24 <phenny> — http://dict.leo.org/ende?search=w%C3%B6hnen
21:42:26 <sbp> rather, -like?
21:43:00 <[bjoern]> Don't ask me questions like that for frr, I can read much, but that's about all of it
21:43:14 <archels> .leo wohnen
21:43:16 <phenny> habitation = das Wohnen
21:43:19 <phenny> wohnen |&#160;wohnte, gewohnt&#160;| = to abide archaic |&#160;abode, abode&#160;|, to dwell |&#160;dwelt/dwelled, dwelt/dwelled&#160;|, to live, to reside, to room
21:43:20 <phenny> wohnen - z. B. Tiere mit Tages- oder Nachtquartier in der Vegetation |&#160;wohnte, gewohnt&#160;| = to roost (zool.)
21:43:21 <phenny> — http://dict.leo.org/ende?search=wohnen
21:43:44 <[bjoern]> -lich is -ish, well, kinda.
21:44:10 *** sbp changed the topic to: "Ma följk üt dåt ååstfrasche Saterlönj koon huum ham!"
21:44:13 <[bjoern]> Also, I do not fucking know Öömrang, despite the umlauts.
21:44:27 <[bjoern]> .wik Öömrang
21:44:27 <phenny> "Öömrang is the dialect of the North Frisian language spoken on the island of Amrum in the German region of North Frisia. Öömrang refers to the Öömrang Frisian name of Amrum, Oomram." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Öömrang
21:44:28 <sbp> I'll bet it's something awesome like "goatlicking"
21:44:35 <sbp> ah
21:45:05 <sbp> well I'll bet ååstfrasche is goatlicking then
21:45:12 <sbp> though to me it looks like arsefresh
21:45:42 <[bjoern]> ååst is Ost (east)
21:45:45 <sbp> Saterlönj looks like an exercise you would do in the weekend
21:46:18 <[bjoern]> .wik Saterland Frisian
21:46:18 <phenny> "Saterland Frisian, also known as Sater Frisian or Saterlandic (Seeltersk), is the last living dialect of the East Frisian language." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saterland_Frisian
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21:47:11 <sbp> if you were me, would Frisian look like Scots?
21:47:37 <sbp> what I am asking is sbp : [bjoern] :: Scots : Frisian?!!?!!!?!
21:47:41 <[bjoern]> .g wikipedia scots
21:47:41 <phenny> [bjoern]: http://sco.wikipedia.org/
21:47:51 <[bjoern]> CHECKING. TUNED, YOU STAY.
21:48:03 <sbp> "Hou tae gang aboot editin an stairtin airticles is expoundit on the Lessons page."
21:48:06 <[bjoern]> Usually at this point I wander off and check again the next day.
21:48:36 <sbp> "Dinna haud yer wheesht, haud yer ain!"
21:49:22 <[bjoern]> I would say no, looks more like http://nds.wikipedia.org/wiki/ though drawing comparisons like that is not that sensible.
21:50:06 <sbp> perhaps there is no [bjoern] : sbp :: Frisian : ???
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21:50:12 <sbp> perhaps there just isn't
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21:55:44 <sbp> ah! http://incubator.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wp/hz/Main_Page
21:55:54 <sbp> http://incubator.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wp/hz/Jesus_Kristus
21:56:41 <[bjoern]> Note that it's not categorized under fiction.
21:56:44 <sbp> no Ombeibela though
21:57:07 <sbp> http://incubator.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Herero_women.jpg
21:57:12 <sbp> their hats are brilliant
21:57:34 <[bjoern]> Looks like exports from venice.
21:57:47 <sbp> I like the Wikimedia Incubator logo
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21:58:30 <Arnia> sbp: http://www.boingboing.net/2010/03/31/a-first-look-at-ipad.html#comment-748978 is one of the oddest, most pessimistic ways to look at the world I've seen
21:58:40 <[bjoern]> Being an egg, it's kinda obvious.
21:58:59 <sbp> http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/incubator/b/bc/Wiki.png
21:59:04 <[bjoern]> The Puzzlepedia logo is more to the point.
22:00:54 <sbp> Arnia: yeah, I'm going to ditch my fiancée for much the same reasons. she makes me feel unhappy with all the other people I know, and she filled me with confusion about which person I should be paying attention to at which time
22:01:29 <sbp> fiancée? dog? television? to learn to feel bad about things I love, like my dog and my television, because they aren't just right
22:02:10 <sbp> if I sound whiny, it's because I'm parodying this comment. I can just sense that my fiancée won't add to my happiness. she will just make me wish that I had a weathergirl, or a lingerie model!
22:02:20 <sbp> *deep breath*
22:02:43 <sbp> this comment has pursuaded me that I'm better off without her
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22:04:31 <Arnia> sbp: you're better off not knowing joy, it will only make you upset
22:07:57 * Arnia nukes BoingBoing
22:08:11 <Arnia> I have have mentioned Swhack in my interview today
22:08:23 <Arnia> and made it sound like the modern day Illuminati
22:08:50 <sbp> heh!
22:09:20 <sbp> I'd say Rosicrucians, but potato-potato
22:11:25 <Arnia> No, Rosicrucians is probably more accurate... I doubt they would have heard of them however
22:11:44 <Arnia> I suppose I could say 'imagine the catholic equivalent of the freemasons'
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22:12:46 <Monty> lo MacTed
22:14:21 <Arnia> I think the next person who uses the word 'sheep' as an argument needs to be hung, drawn and quartered scattering their parts to the corners of the kingdom
22:15:00 <Arnia> Or fed to the Book
22:17:46 <BigJibby> it's obvious you don't like sheep
22:18:02 <Arnia> "Nice hardware, but not programmable so not really suitable for children, or, y'know, citizens of democratic states."
22:18:10 * Arnia gets his flamethrower out
22:19:19 * BigJibby gets a stick and some marshmallows
22:20:01 <BigJibby> .t "Ma följk üt dåt ååstfrasche Saterlönj koon huum ham!"?
22:20:43 <Arnia> "Granted. As a _market_ it's interesting, just because there's going to be a lot of uptake from folks who want computing but (think they) don't want a computer."
22:20:56 <Arnia> Ah, so they really want a computer they can hack on
22:21:21 <Arnia> cos that's what I see the masses complaining about; the fact that they're not allowed to program
22:21:36 <Arnia> wherefore technobunkum?
22:22:30 <BigJibby> my grandpa always complains about the lack of a compiler on windows
22:23:25 <Arnia> Oh this is good: http://www.boingboing.net/2010/03/31/a-first-look-at-ipad.html#comment-749321
22:23:29 <sbp> hehe
22:23:41 <sbp> see, this is why I love that Pogue wrote two reviews
22:23:50 <sbp> he could have milked that for much more humour
22:23:55 <sbp> but I guess he wouldn't have been allowed
22:24:05 <Arnia> Someone on Macrumors quoted the first bit to bolster their argument that the iPad was nothing special
22:24:19 <Arnia> I love selective reading; it is even more amusing than selective hearing
22:26:10 <sbp> well since they're a techie I'm sure they followed the instructions precisely and only read the techie review. that is what was intructed in the text; they JIT compiled it and ran the instructions with built in error checking
22:26:22 <Arnia> Ooh, conspiracies: "What's stopping Apple from encouraging jquery performance to lag - so web-applications are put aside for proper 'Apps' (which they collect a fee from)?"
22:26:41 <sbp> any time they felt they wanted to deviate from the code as prescribed by Pogue, they self-flagellated
22:26:51 <Arnia> Am I the only one who finds this backlash against a bloody consumer product utterly absurd?
22:27:32 <sbp> ignoring the conspiracy theory, I was surprised that jQuery is slow
22:27:50 <Arnia> as am I... I'm wondering how they were using it though
22:27:56 <sbp> then again, I also note that one of the six reviewers said Safari has no tabs
22:28:02 <Arnia> ...
22:28:04 <Arnia> ooookay
22:28:07 <sbp> but I've seen a *video* on apple.com of Safari having tabs
22:28:41 <Arnia> Someone else I read insisted that the iPad doesn't support file syncing and cited Ihntako's review
22:28:54 <Arnia> ... which has several paragraphs on file syncing
22:28:58 <sbp> hehe
22:29:31 <Arnia> oh, and apparently it is still certain to be a failure because no one wants a device like this
22:29:47 <Arnia> oh, wait... no one but fanboys want a device like this
22:30:01 <Arnia> oh, sorry again... no one but consumer sheep want a device like this
22:30:26 <Arnia> ... I wonder if they realise how silly they sound?
22:30:27 <sbp> oh actually, I think I know what he means
22:30:31 <sbp> 'The browser lacks tabs.' - Mossberg
22:30:41 <Arnia> as in tabs-tabs
22:30:43 <Arnia> yes...
22:30:46 <sbp> I'll bet he means actual tabs in the interface [  one tab  ] [  two tabs  ]
22:30:48 <sbp> sheesh
22:30:52 <sbp> some people
22:30:55 <Arnia> but that UI makes no sense on this device
22:30:58 <Arnia> at all
22:31:00 <BigJibby> they should put a lid on it that you can flip open and it makes a little chime sound. then they would love it.
22:31:16 <sbp> the full page of "here's what all the tabs look like" is really handy
22:31:23 <sbp> much better than the iPhone, which can only show a tab at a time
22:32:19 <Arnia> yeah
22:32:35 <Arnia> I should play Web Forum Bingo sometime
22:32:56 <sbp> is there a pre-existing grid?
22:33:01 <Arnia> with squares with phrases in like 'Orwellian', 'fascist' and 'Hitler'
22:33:05 <sbp> hehe
22:33:10 <Arnia> not as far as I'm aware
22:33:38 <Arnia> "I'm sorry but I don't need any cat food. I'm a dog lover, and dogs are man's best friend. Why would I ever need cat food? It's just overpriced fishy-smelling mush that no dog lover would ever feed their dog. The cat food business is a racket, and all the people fawning over fancy feast this and friskies that are just idiot fanboys."
22:34:15 <sbp> a drinking game whose drink event fires on "Flash" would be deadly
22:34:59 <Arnia> oh my... or 'multitasking'
22:35:06 <Arnia> or... *gulps*... 'camera'
22:35:37 <sbp> "That is the funniest review I have ever read. I have never read more of a one sided praise in my life."
22:35:44 <sbp> FUNNIEST COMMENT EVER?
22:36:22 <treed> or "copy and paste"
22:36:29 <treed> I think I've only used copy and paste like once.
22:36:34 <sbp> favourite so far: "Instead of buying an iPad why not donate money to one of the poor communities where the children who make these iPad's live?"
22:37:09 <sbp> I want to see the sweatshop where children make iPads
22:37:22 <sbp> The Onion: MAKE IT HAPPEN
22:38:56 <Arnia> sbp: yeah, you can tell by the build quality
22:39:09 <Arnia> Hah... bad pun http://www.boingboing.net/2010/03/31/a-first-look-at-ipad.html#comment-749614
22:39:22 <jsled> http://andrewsullivan.theatlantic.com/the_daily_dish/2010/04/april-fools-with-bigger-balls.html
22:39:25 <BigJibby> they're called iChildren
22:39:44 <sbp> this one is pretty good too:
22:39:45 <sbp> —
22:39:46 <sbp> Terry • #46 • 19:56 on Wed, Mar.31 • Reply
22:39:46 <sbp> Um...Holy Crap. Am I the only one who knows what day it is?
22:39:47 <sbp> —
22:40:17 <Arnia> Yes, April Fool's E'en
22:40:40 <sbp> ooh, Aprooe'en!
22:43:18 <BigJibby> i like this one http://laptops.toshiba.com/tubetop
22:43:37 <Arnia> we should run a sweepstake on when the MS Courier will be released
22:44:08 <Arnia> If someone writes a negative review, they're utterly perceptive, if someone writes a positive review they're obviously paid off
22:44:22 * Arnia sticks his fingers in his ears and hums loudly
22:53:05 <Arnia> I've realised we're far better off here than in the US for the iPad
22:53:10 * Arnia hugs iPlayer
22:53:44 <Arnia> Between iPlayer, YouTube and Vimeo... that's pretty much all the Flash I use
23:16:38 <sbp> she was only off of the eggs once today
23:16:39 <sbp> http://wp1007209.wp014.webpack.hosteurope.de/pfalzstorch/tagesarchiv_bornheim1/tag/1632.jpg
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23:18:53 * jeanniecool sends SeanB to bed
23:19:07 * sbp sends jeanniecool to bed
23:19:17 <jeanniecool> hey!
23:19:32 <jeanniecool> It's only 1618 here!
23:19:43 <jeanniecool> In fact, /me just had a little nap :-P
23:21:00 <sbp> see, you should have saved it
23:21:41 * jeanniecool dozed off while she was reading....
23:21:58 <sbp> were you reading Swhack?
23:22:07 <jeanniecool> Um, no.
23:22:11 <jeanniecool> Why?
23:22:16 <jeanniecool> Were you boring in my absence?
23:22:32 <sbp> we strive to be boring
23:22:42 <sbp> one day we will reach such dizzying heights
23:22:43 <jeanniecool> Sad.
23:25:06 <sbp> could always go meta
23:25:20 <sbp> but even that doesn't usually work
23:25:28 <sbp> such as, you are watching me type
23:25:42 <sbp> these are words that I am typing and which you are reading, me having typed and sent them
23:26:05 <sbp> this is a line which comments upon itself, but does not declare itself to be false as a truth
23:26:09 <BigJibby> you have words on your keyboard?
23:26:35 * jeanniecool does
23:26:39 <jeanniecool> lots of them.
23:26:43 <sbp> strangely enough yes, when I press certain keys in certain orders, words appear magically on the screen, and then I press another key and that sends them
23:26:49 <sbp> I also even have individual keys with words on them
23:26:54 <sbp> for example, the "A" key
23:26:56 * jeanniecool has words sans action
23:26:58 <jeanniecool> "as"
23:26:59 <sbp> or the "Delete" key
23:27:02 <jeanniecool> "backspace"
23:27:05 <jeanniecool> "scroll"
23:27:08 <jeanniecool> "pause"
23:27:33 <BigJibby> "esc"
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23:27:49 <sbp> some of my keys even have dirty pictures on them
23:28:00 <sbp> I should clean them
23:28:03 * jeanniecool wants keys like that!!
23:28:23 <sbp> heh, actually in that other sense it would be pretty funny
23:28:36 <sbp> it would be like reverse ascii art
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23:30:51 <BigJibby> i want a t-rex key
23:33:17 <sbp> it would load qwantz.com?
23:34:00 <BigJibby> no
23:34:02 <BigJibby> it would do:
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23:34:48 <BigJibby>      ] Y               / | Y< ~-.__j
23:34:49 <BigJibby>      /  !            _.--~T : l l< /.-~
23:34:51 <BigJibby>     /  /         ____.--~ .  ` l /~\ \<|Y
23:34:53 <BigJibby>     /  /       .-~~"    /| .  ',-~\ \L|
23:34:55 <BigJibby>    /  /       /   .^  \ Y~Y \.^>/l_  "--'
23:34:57 <BigJibby>    /  Y      .-"( . l__ j_j l_/ /~_.-~  .
23:34:59 <BigJibby>   Y  l     /  \ )  ~~~." / `/"~ / \.__/l_
23:35:01 <BigJibby>   |   \   _.-"   ~-{__   l : l._Z~-.___.--~
23:35:03 <BigJibby>   |   ~---~      /  ~~"---\_ ' __[>
23:35:05 <BigJibby>   l .        _.^  ___   _>-y~
23:35:07 <BigJibby>    \ \   .   .-~  .-~  ~>--" /
23:35:09 <BigJibby>    \ ~---"      /   ./ _.-'
23:35:11 <BigJibby>     "-.,_____.,_ _.--~\   _.-~
23:35:15 <BigJibby>           ~~   (  _}    -Row
23:35:17 <BigJibby>              `. ~(
23:35:19 <BigJibby>               ) \
23:35:21 <BigJibby>               /,`--'~\--'~\
23:35:23 <BigJibby> feel free to kick me now :/
23:37:44 <sbp> maybe it should do both
23:38:08 <sbp> I tried to paste 100,000 decimal places of pi here the other day
23:38:23 <sbp> was pasting for an hour. I think I got up to 70,000
23:38:38 * jeanniecool snorks
23:38:40 <jeanniecool> dorks++
23:38:59 <BigJibby> http://swhack.com/logs/2010-04-01.txt is messed up btw
23:39:06 <BigJibby> the t-rex ate it
23:39:07 <Arnia> jeanniecool: Wait, how are you IRCing from the 17th century?
23:39:07 <sbp> well [bjoern] asked what pi was
23:39:15 <sbp> could you resist those puppy dog eyes?
23:39:18 <[bjoern]> DOUBLEPLUSUNTRUE
23:39:26 * jeanniecool has mad skillz, Arnia
23:39:29 <[bjoern]> penis.
23:39:36 * Arnia has a mad penis
23:39:39 <jeanniecool> There, too.
23:39:57 <BigJibby> 8===D
23:40:12 <[bjoern]> Has there been any point in time where swhack logs had not been messed up?
23:40:21 <sbp> as to the condition of the .txt files, ... what [bjoern] said
23:40:33 <sbp> Apache is always fucking my shit up SOME way or another
23:40:38 <sbp> so I just let it get on with it now
23:40:55 <sbp> if I didn't let it have its way here, it would only digitally rape something else
23:41:01 <Arnia> We could get Neo27 to look at them
23:41:02 <[bjoern]> I was also referring to their contents.
23:41:06 <sbp> and who knows what that might be, so it's best to concede some small territory
23:41:12 <[bjoern]> Logs are not treefiles, usually.
23:41:18 <sbp> usually...
23:41:33 <sbp> try DELTREE to be sure though
23:41:35 <[bjoern]> Some are forestblobs though.
23:41:56 * Arnia deletes [bjoern] recursively
23:42:42 <sbp> that'll really give him the nadgers isn't it
23:42:54 <jeanniecool> "nadgers"?
23:43:14 <sbp> that's right boyo
23:43:29 <BigJibby> are you a newfie?
23:43:52 <[bjoern]> My deletion, while maintaining referential integrity, would be welcome.
23:43:58 <sbp> you'll be asking me what state it's in next
23:44:06 <[bjoern]> you wish
23:44:27 <[bjoern]> What's it with you sbp anyway, being up late like this?
23:44:38 <[bjoern]> it's not eurovision voting. and even then.
23:44:41 <sbp> I was looking at storks. you?
23:44:43 <jeanniecool> He's waiting for me to come to bed, [bjoern].
23:44:46 <jeanniecool> Oh.
23:44:47 <[bjoern]> Lies!
23:44:51 <jeanniecool> Or he's looking at storks.
23:44:58 <sbp> okay, I was talking about parafin
23:45:01 <sbp> are you happy?
23:45:02 <[bjoern]> I doubt it is related substantially to penis.
23:45:14 <jeanniecool> Something to do with how babies arrive, at least. :-D
23:45:21 <sbp> I can't even spell it. PARAFFIN
23:45:35 <[bjoern]> jeanniecool: good Rettung there
23:45:37 <[bjoern]> .leo Rettung
23:45:38 <phenny> die Rettung = escape, recovery (tech.), rescue, resort, retrieval
23:45:39 <phenny> letzte Rettung (fig.) = lifesaver (fig.)
23:45:40 <phenny> waghalsige Rettung = daring rescue
23:45:41 <phenny> — http://dict.leo.org/ende?search=Rettung
23:46:24 * BigJibby idly wonders what would happen if you analyze penis
23:47:03 <sbp> you'd get sick of penis eventually
23:47:05 <[bjoern]> de.wp is rather subtle, don't you think? http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thundercats
23:47:27 <[bjoern]> Well if there was an easy, socially acceptable way to switch...
23:47:35 <sbp> better than http://cs.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hromkočky
23:47:46 <jeanniecool> I dunno, SeanB.
23:47:54 * jeanniecool has never had limitless penis to test the theory....
23:48:03 <[bjoern]> I am amazed the Löschnazis have not come after it indeed sbp
23:48:15 <Arnia> Analyse Störchenpenis
23:48:36 <[bjoern]> Storch(en)penis more likely.
23:48:48 <[bjoern]> .gcs Storchpenis Storchenpenis Störchenpenis
23:48:49 <phenny> Storchpenis (7), Störchenpenis (0), Storchenpenis (0)
23:49:02 <[bjoern]> .leo Cloake
23:49:03 <phenny> — http://dict.leo.org/ende?search=Cloake
23:49:05 <[bjoern]> .leo Kloake
23:49:05 <sbp> .gc "penis without limit"
23:49:05 <phenny> "penis without limit": 0
23:49:06 <phenny> die Kloake (fig.) = cesspit (fig.), cesspool (fig.)
23:49:07 <phenny> die Kloake - Pl. die Kloaken veraltend - Kanal = sewer
23:49:08 <phenny> die Kloake - Pl. die Kloaken (Ornithologie) = cloaca - pl. cloacae (zool.)
23:49:09 <phenny> — http://dict.leo.org/ende?search=Kloake
23:49:15 <sbp> .gc "unbounded penis"
23:49:15 <phenny> "unbounded penis": 0
23:49:21 <BigJibby> .gc scorched penis
23:49:22 <phenny> scorched penis: 3,080
23:49:23 <[bjoern]> .leo bellen
23:49:24 <phenny> bark = das Bellen
23:49:25 <phenny> bellen |&#160;bellte, gebellt&#160;| = to bark, to bay, to woof
23:49:25 <Monty> multiple layers of them.
23:49:26 <phenny> — http://dict.leo.org/ende?search=bellen
23:50:55 <sbp> what is the lautmalerei for woof though?
23:51:06 <sbp> surely not bellen
23:51:12 <sbp> a dog does not go "bellen, bellen"
23:51:26 <sbp> it should be something like kroofë
23:51:41 <sbp> "kroofë! kroofë!"
23:55:10 <[bjoern]> wau
23:55:19 <[bjoern]> ~ wow, mostly
23:56:00 <BigJibby> hmm. I need to hold a camera above my head and take a picture of myself for my twitter avatar.
23:56:11 <[bjoern]> bellen, lautmalerisch betrachtet, would be more a combination aus hecheln and bellen
23:56:15 <[bjoern]> .leo hecheln
23:56:16 <phenny> hackling = das Hecheln
23:56:17 <phenny> hecheln |&#160;hechelte, gehechelt&#160;| = to hackle, to pant
23:56:17 <phenny> — http://dict.leo.org/ende?search=hecheln