2010-04-04 Swhack IRC Log

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07:17:24 <Monty> hi tav, how ya doing?
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08:01:57 <sbp> Grand Prix about to start. parade lap
08:13:33 <sbp> good race so far, Hamilton carving through the field
08:17:59 <sbp> hehe, Button through Alonso
08:18:05 <sbp> Hamilton up to 9th
08:25:56 <sbp> 7th
08:26:11 <sbp> 6th
08:32:05 <sbp> rain in 30mins they say
08:34:07 <sbp> hmm, now they say it could be clear till the end
08:38:19 <sbp> 5th
08:39:43 <sbp> 4th
08:42:49 <sbp> 3rd
08:42:59 <sbp> hasn't pitted though
08:43:23 <sbp> almost 2nd, he was juuuust behind
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08:44:42 <sbp> 2nd
08:55:22 <sbp> 7th, pitted
08:58:58 <sbp> switch to BBC 2...
08:59:10 <sbp> Lewis 2 seconds faster than Jenson behind him
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09:19:24 <lordi> can phenny reload modules on the fly?
09:24:33 <lordi> ah. nvm
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09:37:26 <sbp> Vettel wins
09:37:52 <sbp> Hamilton 6th
09:42:26 <lordi> hey, wouldn't reified questions for phenny be cool?
09:42:44 <lordi> .gc (.tr schweinehund)
09:42:45 <phenny> (.tr schweinehund): 865
09:43:41 <lordi> ok maybe not
09:43:46 <cre8radix> heya
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09:45:09 <sbp> nope
09:46:02 <sbp> I've seen that in other bots
09:46:08 <sbp> it doesn't get used much, and it makes the code complicated
09:46:15 <sbp> people forget the syntax, etc.
09:46:27 <sbp> then they make multiple attempts at the same command
09:46:30 <sbp> and that leads to noise
09:46:50 <lordi> .calc (.gc (.tr schweinehund)) / (.gc (.tr pottsau))
09:46:52 <phenny> (.gc (.tr schweinehund)) / (.gc (.tr pottsau)) = ?
09:47:01 <lordi> looks like LISP
10:03:25 <sbp> phenny: ask mattly how Adobe Ideas (free) compares to Sketchbook
10:03:25 <phenny> sbp: I'll pass that on when mattly is around.
10:06:28 <sbp> phenny: tell Arnia more than double the amount of iPads sold the first day compared to iPhones: 700,000 (Times Online)
10:06:29 <phenny> sbp: I'll pass that on when Arnia is around.
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10:10:13 <sbp> “HM Treasury is now following you on Twitter!”
10:10:59 <sbp> http://www.chicagonow.com/blogs/redeye-puzzler/assets_c/2010/04/Pi-thumb-580x243-110735-thumb-580x243-110736.jpg
10:11:39 <sbp> ouch: http://www.downloadsquad.com/2010/04/01/torrent-site-sends-condoms-to-mpaa-in-serious-april-fools-messa/
10:12:25 <sbp> http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_k4x5a3c1b_M/S7O4G5pCS9I/AAAAAAAAReQ/Pouvy35OiPs/s1600/Mike_Storm.png
10:12:53 <sbp> http://techcrunch.com/2010/03/31/facebook-cruel-captcha/
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11:34:54 <sbp> "10:10" timezones
11:34:58 <sbp> .g "10:10" timezones
11:34:58 <phenny> sbp: http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/
11:35:05 <sbp> .g "10:10" timezones UK lobby
11:35:05 <phenny> sbp: http://www.pointcarbon.com/news/1.1420140
11:35:23 <sbp> tommorris is *really* funny on Twitter
11:35:54 <sbp> he moans and whines and bitches about absolutely every trite pipe and beret subject you can think of, and then adds just one more complaint after to make sure
11:36:10 <sbp> but... in a really funny way. like he's uncontrollable, unstoppable
11:38:41 <sbp> phenny: tell Jibbler pix pls
11:38:41 <phenny> sbp: I'll pass that on when Jibbler is around.
11:39:40 <Jibbler> of boa?
11:39:41 <phenny> Jibbler: 11:38Z <sbp> tell Jibbler pix pls
11:39:45 <sbp> yeah!
11:40:40 <Jibbler> haven't got them off the camera yet
11:40:57 <Jibbler> there are plenty of older ones on http://photos.jibble.org/Places/England/Bradford-on-Avon/
11:41:01 <sbp> your camera doesn't have wifi and a flickr uploadr button?
11:41:33 * sbp wonders how old the Bridge Tea Rooms building is
11:41:47 <sbp> 1675
11:41:53 <sbp> thank you interwebs
11:42:15 <Jibbler> i don't use flickr
11:42:34 <sbp> sniffr
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12:23:04 <Arnia> sbp: I'm getting really confused about the reports about sales. Some places seem to have had no one interested, others seem to have loads, far more than the iPhone
12:23:04 <phenny> Arnia: 10:06Z <sbp> tell Arnia more than double the amount of iPads sold the first day compared to iPhones: 700,000 (Times Online)
12:24:57 <sbp> the Times say that the short queues are due to the pre-orders online
12:25:03 <sbp> which weren't available for the iPhone
12:25:12 <sbp> which is why some reports are coming in as it being less popular than the iPhone
12:25:18 <sbp> and the raw data that it's much more popular
12:25:57 <nsh> SO IS THE CLAP
12:26:25 <Arnia> There are people already calling it a flop
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12:29:12 <Arnia> .c (499 + 599 + 699)/3
12:29:12 <phenny> (499 + 599 + 699) / 3 = 599
12:29:24 <Arnia> Well, that was obvious really
12:29:43 <Arnia> .c 599 USD * 700000
12:29:44 <phenny> 599 U.S. dollars * 700 000 = 419.3 million U.S. dollars
12:30:09 <sbp> nearly half a billion. not bad in a day
12:30:25 <Arnia> .c 599 USD * 700000 * 40%
12:30:25 <phenny> 599 U.S. dollars * 700 000 * (40%) = 167.72 million U.S. dollars
12:30:29 <sbp> wonder how much profit on each unit
12:30:32 <sbp> you think 40%?
12:30:49 <Arnia> That's the typical markup for most retailers on most products
12:31:17 <Arnia> And Apple's overall profit margins are around 36%
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13:13:39 <[bjoern]> nu
13:15:14 <[bjoern]> I wonder if you can summon ghosts with nuuuuuuuu!.
13:22:44 <Arnia> Whoop, Papers is a universal binary for iPhone and iPad
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13:50:37 <[bjoern]> phenny, tell jeanniecool Fleischsäule.
13:50:37 <phenny> [bjoern]: I'll pass that on when jeanniecool is around.
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13:55:14 <CIA-65> phenny-ws: 03nslater@me.com * r178 10/wiki/ServiceDefinitions.wiki: Edited wiki page through web user interface.
13:55:47 <CIA-65> phenny-ws: 03nslater@me.com * r179 10/wiki/ServiceDefinitions.wiki: Edited wiki page through web user interface.
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14:44:23 <Monty> bah, it's sivy again
14:44:33 * jeanniecool licks [bjoern] in thanks
14:44:33 <phenny> jeanniecool: 13:50Z <[bjoern]> tell jeanniecool Fleischsäule.
14:51:39 <jeanniecool> Happy Easter, Everyone!
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16:21:48 <sbp> wow, major bureaucracy
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18:17:35 <[bjoern]> nice http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/howaboutthat/7547129/Council-condemned-over-Britains-shortest-cycle-lane.html
18:32:23 <sbp> I think there are, or at least were, shorter ones
18:32:29 <sbp> seem to recall a website of them at some point
18:32:34 <sbp> and some of them were just brutal
18:33:46 <[bjoern]> You and your memories.
18:38:45 <archels> oh no, it's a BIKER
18:39:34 <Arnia> There are some fiendish ones in Manchester
18:39:51 <Arnia> They seem to like sending cyclists down the busiest roads
18:40:02 <Arnia> I'm afraid to ride here actually
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18:59:05 <[bjoern]> .leo Dauerwerbesendung
18:59:06 <phenny> — http://dict.leo.org/ende?search=Dauerwerbesendung
19:13:02 <sbp> when and where did the stereotype of the stingy Scotsman originate?
19:14:31 <[bjoern]> The catholic church started spreading corresponding rumors around 412 in the area of Loch Ness.
19:15:01 <[bjoern]> Their purpose was not to sell fine leather jackets, but to distract people from the recent discovery of Atlantis.
19:15:21 <[bjoern]> At least that's how they explain it on their web site.
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19:25:16 <niven.freenode.net> Topic for #swhack is: "Bacon. Cheese of the pig."
19:25:16 <niven.freenode.net> Users on #swhack: loggy [sbp] [[sroracle]] jetscreamer kpreid MacTed panni_ jeffarch sivy nogagplz lordi phenny JibberJim tro [bjoern] dmiles_afk archels Xanthor[aw] CaptSolo lmorchard davisp thelsdj edsu BigJibby p6eval lisppaste2 shepazu tobbez Jibbler Monty treed maxkelley yano Arnia nsh sbp scottrageous _ulises deltab jsled Tene nslater jessica xxv l7
19:35:19 <[bjoern]> new youtube player is utter fail
19:35:22 <[bjoern]> like the new interface
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21:38:54 <[bjoern]> Monty.
21:38:56 <Monty> Which is no Borges EVEN ONCE
22:11:14 <sbp> http://wp1007209.wp014.webpack.hosteurope.de/pfalzstorch/tagesarchiv_bornheim1/tag/1532.jpg
22:11:21 <sbp> storks. why aren't there little ones yet
22:11:57 <sbp> head stuffs: http://wp1007209.wp014.webpack.hosteurope.de/pfalzstorch/tagesarchiv_bornheim1/tag/0732.jpg
22:12:08 <[bjoern]> where is the stork blog
22:12:45 <[bjoern]> http://pfalzstorch.blogspot.com/
22:13:05 <sbp> no shots of her off of the eggs today
22:13:14 <sbp> she seems to understand that she actually needs to sit on them
22:14:20 <[bjoern]> It's a new pair btw
22:14:55 <[bjoern]> Nothing of note in the blog
22:15:06 <sbp> new pair? ah
22:15:13 <sbp> makes sense then I guess
22:15:17 <sbp> perhaps a more experienced pair
22:16:25 <sbp> lights on in the Gasthaus
22:16:36 <sbp> not sure if there is kinky sex therein or just old men playing whist
22:16:42 <sbp> do old men in Germany play whist?
22:17:13 <sbp> http://www.pfalz-info.com/images/laempel.jpg
22:17:46 <[bjoern]> Unclear what we see in those windows
22:17:56 <[bjoern]> .leo whist
22:17:57 <phenny> whist = das Whist - Kartenspiel
22:17:58 <phenny> — http://dict.leo.org/ende?search=whist
22:18:10 <sbp> first floor, so guessing their gast rooms
22:18:18 <sbp> and assuming that gast is guest
22:18:20 <sbp> .leo gast
22:18:21 <phenny> patron = der Gast
22:18:22 <phenny> sojourner = der Gast
22:18:23 <phenny> tourist = der Gast
22:18:24 <phenny> — http://dict.leo.org/ende?search=gast
22:18:26 <sbp> yeah, whoo
22:18:30 <[bjoern]> never heard of it
22:18:45 <[bjoern]> The game I mean
22:18:56 <sbp> .wik Whist
22:18:56 <phenny> "Whist is a classic English trick-taking card game which was played widely in the 18th and 19th centuries[1]|." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whist
22:19:05 <[bjoern]> Yeah I checked that
22:19:21 <sbp> did you enjoy Easter?
22:19:30 <sbp> what is the thing you enjoyed most about it
22:19:38 <sbp> of all the many things I'm sure you enjoyed
22:19:48 <[bjoern]> I don't enjoy.
22:19:51 <sbp> I know it's already run out for you
22:19:55 <sbp> I still have some Easter
22:20:04 <sbp> oh, actually, Easter Monday
22:20:11 <sbp> so still plenty of Easter for all involved
22:20:15 <sbp> .wik Easter Monday
22:20:16 <phenny> "Easter Monday is the day after Easter Sunday and is celebrated as a holiday in some largely Christian cultures, especially Roman Catholic and Eastern Orthodox cultures." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Easter_Monday
22:20:29 <[bjoern]> I was gonna say.
22:20:41 <sbp> no Easter Monday for you protesters then
22:20:54 <[bjoern]> Of course we have easter monday.
22:20:58 <sbp> what? but Luther didn't want an extra holiday apparently
22:21:56 <[bjoern]> wp even references http://www.timeanddate.com/holidays/germany/easter-monday
22:22:26 <sbp> ooh, Emmausgang
22:22:34 <sbp> we don't have Emmausgangen
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22:22:38 <[bjoern]> never heard of it either
22:23:22 <sbp> .wik Emmaus
22:23:23 <phenny> "Emmaus (Greek: Ἐμμαούς, Latin: Emmaus, Hebrew: חמת‎ Hammat, meaning 'warm spring', Arabic: عِمواس‎ Imwas) was an ancient town located approximately 7 miles (11 km) northwest of present day Jerusalem." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emmaus
22:24:31 <sbp> hmm, lots of different candidate places for it
22:24:39 <sbp> apparently they don't know which one it is
22:24:50 <sbp> and the best guess is the least comfortable with the literary distance evidence
22:26:00 <[bjoern]> "Your brain on Google" is an interesting slogan
22:26:20 <[bjoern]> (overheard in http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/digitalnation/)
22:35:20 <sbp> hmm but http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emmaus_Nicopolis says 160 stadia
22:36:29 <sbp> http://net.bible.org/bible.php?book=Luk&chapter=24#n37 says 60
22:36:41 <sbp> but perhaps 160 is in some early translations
22:40:19 <[bjoern]> .wik Lunation
22:40:20 <phenny> "Lunation is the mean time for one lunar phase cycle (i.e., the synodic period of the Moon)." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lunation
22:42:22 <sbp> http://www.codexsinaiticus.org/en/manuscript.aspx?book=35&chapter=24&lid=en&side=r&verse=13&zoomSlider=0
22:42:31 <sbp> they translate it there are "sixty furlongs"
22:42:34 <sbp> lunations:
22:42:37 <sbp> .o moon
22:42:37 <phenny> sbp: Sorry, the service is broken.
22:42:41 <sbp> what!
22:43:10 <sbp> $ python moonphase.py
22:43:10 <sbp> Last Quarter (0.695)
22:44:13 <sbp> phenny: "και ϊ δου δυο εξ αυτων εν τη αυτη ημερα ηϲαν δε πορευο μενοι ειϲ κωμη απεχουϲαν ϲτα διουϲ εκατον ε ξηκοντα απο ϊε ρουϲαλημʼ η ονο μα εμμαουϲ"?
22:44:14 <phenny> sbp: "Doy and I two of them in the day this isan and marched down menu at the large village apechousan sta stockholding hundred e o rousalim xikonta by the name but Emmaus" (el to en, translate.google.com)
22:44:43 <sbp> that's not the clearest translation ever
22:44:53 <sbp> "And behold, two of them were going on the same day to a village named Emmaus, distant from Jerusalem sixty furlongs"
22:45:10 <[bjoern]> Google's Translation would make an interesting edition of the bible.
22:45:15 <sbp> heh, yeah
22:45:19 <[bjoern]> With Commentary by Monty.
22:45:23 <Monty> if (self-sufficiency == jackhammers) { insect attacks emancipatory oesophagus;}
22:45:34 <sbp> I can't even see the word stadia in there
22:45:47 <sbp> phenny: "διουϲ εκατον ε ξηκοντα"?
22:45:47 <phenny> sbp: Language guessing failed, so try suggesting one!
22:45:52 <sbp> phenny: el "διουϲ εκατον ε ξηκοντα"?
22:45:53 <phenny> sbp: "stockholding hundred e xikonta" (el to en, translate.google.com)
22:47:06 <sbp> phenny: el "διουϲ εκατον"?
22:47:07 <phenny> sbp: "stockholding hundred" (el to en, translate.google.com)
22:48:11 <sbp> http://www.scripture4all.org/OnlineInterlinear/NTpdf/luk24.pdf
22:48:45 <[bjoern]> FEEDOM DOESNT COME FREE http://www.flickr.com/photos/pargon/sets/72157623594187379/show/
22:49:03 <sbp> ah, ξηκοντα is sixty
22:49:59 <sbp> so I guess that's hundred and sixty
22:50:04 <sbp> so I guess it is right. hmm
22:50:26 <sbp> pretty interesting
22:50:56 <sbp> .wik Socilism
22:50:57 <phenny> "Socialism refers to the various theories of economic organization which advocate either public or direct worker ownership and administration of the means of production and allocation of resources." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Socilism
22:51:08 <sbp> there's even a redirect for it on Wikipedia, perhaps
22:51:28 <[bjoern]> http://www.flickr.com/photos/pargon/4469684454/
22:52:25 <sbp> I liked http://www.flickr.com/photos/pargon/4469684254/
22:52:28 <[bjoern]> http://www.flickr.com/photos/pargon/4468906171/
22:52:51 <[bjoern]> Yeah a bit obvious though
22:53:54 <sbp> also like this one: http://www.flickr.com/photos/pargon/4469685434/
22:55:34 <sbp> most confusing so far is http://www.flickr.com/photos/pargon/4468907621/
22:55:59 <[bjoern]> http://www.flickr.com/photos/pargon/4469686974/
22:56:12 <[bjoern]> yeah
22:56:49 <sbp> oh, I see, stadia got split into two: ϲτα διουϲ
22:57:02 <sbp> stadious
22:57:48 <[bjoern]> the plumbers are a bit scary
22:57:49 <sbp> are American literacy rates going up or down?
22:57:57 <sbp> oh wait, I remember we tried to look this up before
22:58:08 <sbp> and found that numeracy rates weren't high enough to get an estimate
22:59:29 <sbp> wonder why the translation doesn't match the text
23:00:05 <sbp> I guess it's just a generic modern translation then, not actually a word for word text translation. I mean, it's not word for word anyway, clearly, which would be most helpful...
23:00:49 <[bjoern]> http://www.flickr.com/photos/pargon/4468910411/
23:01:45 <[bjoern]> http://www.flickr.com/photos/pargon/4468910791/
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23:05:03 <[bjoern]> "And now you know why all those jokes about George Bush's mangled syntax didn't resonate with the electorate." -- http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/richard-adams-blog/2010/apr/01/teabonics-tea-party-protest-signs
23:06:15 <sbp> hehe
23:08:50 <sbp> .c 60 furlongs in metres
23:08:51 <phenny> 60 furlongs = 12 070.08 meters
23:08:57 <sbp> .wik Stadia
23:08:57 <phenny> "The plural of stadium" - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stadia
23:09:06 <sbp> .wik Stadios
23:09:08 <phenny> "Yeshu (ישו in Hebrew) is a name that appears in a few anecdotes in the Tosefta and the Babylonian Talmud, and later as the name of the central character of the Toledot Yeshu narratives." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yeshu
23:09:12 <sbp> .wik Stadious
23:09:14 <phenny> "Stadiou Street (Greek: Οδός Σταδíου) is Athens' major street linking the Omonoia and Syntagma Squares." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stadiou_Street
23:09:19 <sbp> hmm. what's the singular
23:09:22 <sbp> .wik Stadium
23:09:23 <phenny> "A modern stadium (plural stadia or stadiums[2]|) is a place, or venue, for (mostly) outdoor sports, concerts or other events, consisting of a field or stage partly or completely surrounded by a structure designed to allow spectators to stand or sit and view the event." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stadium
23:09:27 <sbp> .wik Stadium (distance)
23:09:29 <phenny> "Yankee Stadium is a stadium located in the New York City borough of The Bronx." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yankee_Stadium
23:09:31 <sbp> .wik Stadium (unit)
23:09:32 <phenny> "The stadion, latinized as stadium and anglicized as stade, is an ancient Greek unit of length." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stadion_(unit_of_length)
23:09:40 <sbp> stadion!
23:10:10 <sbp> .c 160 * 157m
23:10:11 <phenny> 160 * 157 meters = 25.12 kilometers
23:10:24 <sbp> .c 1 furlong / 157m
23:10:25 <phenny> (1 furlong) / (157 meters) = 1.28132484
23:10:36 <sbp> .c 1 furlong in meters
23:10:36 <phenny> 1 furlong = 201.16800 meters
23:10:59 <sbp> .c 1 stadion in metres
23:11:00 <phenny> sbp: Sorry, no result.
23:11:06 <sbp> .c 1 stadium in metres
23:11:07 <phenny> sbp: Sorry, no result.
23:11:09 <sbp> .c 1 stade in metres
23:11:10 <phenny> sbp: Sorry, no result.
23:15:10 <sbp> —
23:15:11 <sbp> There's no way to embed it here, alas, but the Times of London has video of the newly discovered 1896 film that appears to be Australia's first movie:
23:15:11 <sbp> Patineur Grotesque shows a bearded man, dressed in a top hat and smoking a cigar, rollerskating in a park before a circle of onlookers. He stops and lifts his jacket to reveal a white hand print on the bottom of his trousers in a cheeky gesture to the camera."
23:15:14 <sbp> —
23:15:18 <sbp> (Paul Collins)
23:15:29 <sbp> .title http://entertainment.timesonline.co.uk/tol/arts_and_entertainment/film/article7064954.ece
23:15:33 <phenny> sbp: Australia's earliest film seen for the first time - contains video
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23:16:54 <[bjoern]> "Results 1 \endash 10 of about 0 for wikileaks. (0.10 seconds)" -- Google News.
23:16:59 <sbp> .title http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/europe/article7086719.ece
23:17:00 <phenny> sbp: Disney resort hit by staff suicides - Times Online
23:17:55 <sbp> UK election 6th May, probably
23:18:35 <[bjoern]> I read the lords will take over your monarchy in the meantime.
23:19:26 <sbp> take over the government, yeah
23:19:59 <sbp> .title http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2010/apr/04/lords-parliament-dissolved
23:20:01 <phenny> sbp: Lords will hold keys to country after parliament is dissolved | Politics | The Guardian
23:20:58 <sbp> "Lady Kinnock in the Foreign Office"
23:21:48 <cre8radix> ‽
23:22:25 <sbp> "The race to pass legislation will mean a glut of votes in parliament, keeping MPs busy as bills pingpong frantically between the Commons and the Lords in an attempt to reach the statute book."
23:22:28 <sbp> yo cre8radix
23:23:58 <sbp> —
23:24:00 <sbp> If there is a new government on 7 May, former ministers can return to their offices to clear out their desks. By the end of last week, some had already begun to pack up.
23:24:00 <sbp> In the great Whitehall tradition, some ministers also chose to leave notes for their successors offering friendly advice – usually on how to handle the civil servants in their departments.
23:24:00 <sbp> But there are other ways to send a message. One minister said at the tail end of last week that they had spent their final working days spending every last penny they could find in their departmental budget. "I've used up what's left in the coffers. I'm not leaving them anything."
23:24:00 <Monty> ffs apple
23:24:02 <sbp> —
23:24:08 <cre8radix> heya sbp / [bjoern]
23:24:14 <cre8radix> monty
23:24:17 <Monty> need of stuff so encode that although the tomb, taking photos".
23:24:35 <cre8radix> picture this: http://razieljamaerah.eu/audio/raggedy_test.mp3
23:25:23 <sbp> should just give control of the country over to the lords
23:25:31 <sbp> though that would effectively make Mandy PM... hmm...
23:25:39 <sbp> can't listen now, I'm off
23:25:42 <sbp> 'night!
23:26:05 <cre8radix> n8
23:26:23 <cre8radix> public dick - dick?