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09:51:53 <sbp> yo
09:52:05 <sbp> .title http://is.gd/bf76c
09:52:07 <phenny> sbp: Language Log » The directed graph of stereotypical incomprehensibility
09:52:43 <sbp> .g "Words with Friends"
09:52:43 <phenny> sbp: http://newtoyinc.com/
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13:13:29 <Monty> yo [bjoern]!
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13:53:37 <Monty> But what does kpreid have to do with the price of fish?
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18:40:07 <jeanniecool> nogagplz, how much did I fetch?
18:48:21 <Arnia> jeanniecool: thirty two dildos and a partridge in a pear tree
18:48:39 <Arnia> (which was rescued from Soho)
18:48:46 <[bjoern]> Why would you swawp jeanniecool for dildos?
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18:49:50 <jeanniecool> ...
18:50:22 * jeanniecool is curious to hear Arnia's reasoning as well
18:50:46 <Arnia> Well, the reasons should be obvious
18:51:33 <[bjoern]> You should have thought about that before offering the answer above.
18:52:48 <Arnia> I offered no answers. Merely suggestions
19:07:05 <[bjoern]> "It has been confirmed that Park Nam Ki, who is now infamous as the one who led the disastrous currency redenomination of November 30th, 2009, was publicly executed on March 12th in a Pyongyang stadium." - http://www.dailynk.com/english/read.php?cataId=nk01500&num=6204
19:07:35 <[bjoern]> "Lawmakers: Afghan leader threatens to join Taliban" - http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100405/ap_on_re_as/as_afghanistan
19:09:28 <[bjoern]> .wik q fever
19:09:29 <phenny> "Q fever is a disease caused by infection with Coxiella burnetii,[1]| a bacterium that affects humans and other animals." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Q_fever
19:11:30 <jeanniecool> Not something you get from John deLancey, [bjoern]?
19:11:48 <[bjoern]> apparently so, though that did cross my mind
19:33:28 <sbp> I understand the dildos, but not so much the partridge
19:33:56 <sbp> on the matter of the pear tree I am ambiguous
19:34:14 <sbp> [bjoern]: http://collateralmurder.com/
19:34:15 <[bjoern]> s/on the matter of the pear tree//
19:34:19 <[bjoern]> Yes i saw.
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19:35:10 <jasonw22> disturbing, that one
19:36:34 <Arnia> sbp: you don't want to know what they were doing with it before it was rescued...
19:39:00 <sbp> .c 11.25km in miles
19:39:01 <phenny> 11.25 kilometers = 6.99042591 miles
19:39:10 <sbp> Arnia: yeah, I don't
19:39:56 <[bjoern]> Some argue the things we don't know make us happier than the things we do know, according to pop literate Monty.
19:39:59 <Monty> As we all know, categorisation is Slackware >:)
19:42:04 <Arnia> ah, THAT'S the answer to the ontology mapping problem
19:42:19 <Arnia> Simply map everything to bits of the Slackware FSH
19:43:41 <Arnia> Monty: you botty genius you
19:43:45 <Monty> there a bridge like it, the reports are in principle to put some point
19:48:04 <sbp> .gcs +Emmausgang +Emmausgangen
19:48:04 <phenny> +Emmausgang (8,100), +Emmausgangen (0)
19:48:15 <sbp> [bjoern]: what's the correct plural?
19:48:55 <sbp> .leo gang
19:48:57 <phenny> gang = die Arbeitsgruppe, die Arbeitskolonne, die Bande, die Baukolonne, der Bautrupp
19:48:57 <phenny> gang (aviat.) = die Mannschaft
19:48:58 <phenny> aisle (arch.) = der Gang
19:48:59 <phenny> — http://dict.leo.org/ende?search=gang
19:53:41 <sbp> phenny: en de "Emmausgangs"?
19:53:41 <phenny> sbp: "Emmausgangs" (en to de, translate.google.com)
19:53:50 <sbp> .gc +Emmausgangs
19:53:51 <phenny> +Emmausgangs: 65
19:59:32 <[bjoern]> I don't think you can count the name. The plural of Ausgang would be Ausgänge (as in, exists)
19:59:36 <[bjoern]> exits
20:00:26 <sbp> yeah, already asked another German
20:00:28 <sbp> he said the same thing
20:00:36 <sbp> so I made: http://groups.google.com/group/whits/t/11ff07f437f06890
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20:18:33 <sbp> "libbymiller
20:18:33 <sbp>
20:18:33 <sbp> oh do be quiet #allpoliticians #shutupshutupshutup might have to turn off all radio and tv until after the election"
20:18:48 <sbp> how will she know who to vote for? :-)
20:21:45 <sbp> Caitlin Moran: SCREAM it's my birthday! And I woke up pissed, which saves SO MUCH TIME! currently on a Bloody Mary eating cake mix. Woooop!
20:22:23 <Arnia> Caitlin Moran is strange
20:23:09 <Arnia> I plan on voting for the Spoilt Ballot Party
20:30:12 <sbp> I couldn't watch that video
20:30:20 <sbp> that's one of the craziest things I've ever seen
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20:35:50 <Arnia> sbp: which video?
20:36:53 <sbp> http://collateralmurder.com/
20:36:59 <sbp> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5rXPrfnU3G0
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20:37:20 <Arnia> Ah yes
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20:39:39 <jasonw22> i hope that video results in some questions at high levels about the rules of engagement
20:39:57 <sbp> and justice in this particular case
20:40:11 <jasonw22> that would also be good
20:41:26 <jasonw22> i saw the movie about heavy metal in iraq a few days ago. pretty amusing at first, but got really hard to watch towards the end
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21:11:29 <sbp> lights upstairs and down in the Gasthaus
21:11:42 <[bjoern]> url
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21:13:01 <sbp> http://www.pfalzstorch.de/bilder/live/b1_mega_li.htm
21:13:22 <[bjoern]> too much photonic interference
21:13:42 <sbp> according to the live view, the downstairs ones are off now
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21:47:16 <sbp> —
21:47:18 <sbp> Let me illustrate what the change would mean: since the clocks have gone forward, Channel 4 has been broadcasting its 7 o'clock news at 7pm GMT+1, while Channel 4+1 shows it an hour later at 7pm GMT, just like Channel 4 does in winter, when Channel 4+1 is on GMT minus 1.
21:47:25 <sbp> Under the new system, Channel 4+1 will swap to GMT (not plus 1) in the winter – while Channel 4 (not plus 1) is on GMT+1 – but it'll move to GMT+1 in summer, when the main channel's on plus 2. Clear?
21:47:28 <sbp> —
21:47:39 <sbp> (David Mitchell, http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2010/apr/04/time-zone-changes-truffles <-)
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21:49:14 <[bjoern]> Answer: no.
21:51:18 <sbp> did you like my solution to the "URI)" problem?
21:51:44 <[bjoern]> thinking...
21:51:47 <[bjoern]> NO
21:51:54 <[bjoern]> just space it
21:52:01 <[bjoern]> ( http://example.org )
21:52:14 <sbp> but doesn't that look like a crime against punctuation?
21:53:53 <[bjoern]> I strongly recommend you analyze what I write for comma mistakes to see how much I care.
21:54:22 <sbp> you want me to analise what?
21:54:36 <sbp> wait, I think I Britished that word wrong
21:54:40 <[bjoern]> analwhatever you want.
21:54:41 <sbp> nope
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21:55:25 <sbp> we beat hannes__ at least
21:55:30 <[bjoern]> I gave up, at least I am comfortable claiming, grammar and spelling with the Rechtschreibreform
21:56:02 <[bjoern]> My Bundesland was actually the only one that voted against it
21:56:49 <sbp> I like this:
21:56:50 <sbp> Doubled consonants appear after short vowels at the end of certain words, to conform with derived forms
21:56:50 <sbp> As → Ass because of plural Asse (ace, aces)
21:57:00 <sbp> ass I was saying...
21:57:03 <[bjoern]> .wik Asse
21:57:04 <phenny> "Asse is a municipality located in the Belgian province of Flemish Brabant." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asse
21:57:28 <[bjoern]> .wik Schacht Asse II
21:57:30 <phenny> "Asse II was allegedly used as a research mine since 1965." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schacht_Asse_II
21:57:39 <sbp> 'The scholarly debate over spelling was polarised in the late 1960s, because some of the young men and women of that generation rejected spelling regulation as "repressive" and a means of social oppression.'
21:57:52 <sbp> so, polarised into the camps who wanted to reform, and those who were too high to care?
21:57:52 <[bjoern]> bug bug bug bug!!1
21:58:03 <sbp> that is so not a bug
21:58:07 <sbp> I fixed all the bugs
21:58:23 <[bjoern]> It so is, clearly http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schacht_Asse_II does not begin like that
21:58:39 <sbp> but I fixed all the bugs
21:59:12 <[bjoern]> Look, we already don't believe you when you say you fixed one bug.
21:59:22 <sbp> I will investigate your hypothetical bug
21:59:35 <[bjoern]> I might hypothetically appreciate that.
22:00:20 <sbp> this is the actual paragraph:
22:00:36 <sbp> start: HEREDOC
22:00:38 <sbp> <p><span style="font-size: small;"><span id="coordinates"><a href="/wiki/Geographic_coordinate_system" title="Geographic coordinate system">Coordinates</a>: <span class="plainlinks nourlexpansion"><a href="http://toolserver.org/~geohack/geohack.php?pagename=Schacht_Asse_II&params=52_08_38_N_10_38_32_E_region:DE-NI_type:mountain" class="external text" rel="nofollow"><span class="geo-default"><span class="geo-dms" title="Maps, aerial
22:00:39 <sbp> photos, and other data for this location"><span class="latitude">52°08′38″N</span> <span class="longitude">10°38′32″E</span></span></span><span class="geo-multi-punct"> / </span><span class="geo-nondefault"><span class="geo-dec" title="Maps, aerial photos, and other data for this location">52.14389°N 10.64222°E</span><span style="display:none"> / <span class="geo">52.14389; 10.64222</span></span></span></a></span>
22:00:39 <sbp> </span></span> The pit Asse II (<b>Schacht Asse II</b>) is a former <a href="/wiki/Salt_mine" title="Salt mine">salt mine</a> used as a <a href="/wiki/Deep_geological_repository" title="Deep geological repository">deep geological repository</a> for <a href="/wiki/Radioactive_waste" title="Radioactive waste">radioactive waste</a> in the mountain range of <a href="/wiki/Asse_(Germany)" title="Asse (Germany)">Asse</a> in district <a href=
22:00:44 <sbp> "/wiki/Wolfenb%C3%BCttel_(district)" title="Wolfenbüttel (district)">Wolfenbüttel</a> in <a href="/wiki/Lower_Saxony" title="Lower Saxony">Lower Saxony</a>/<a href="/wiki/Germany" title="Germany">Germany</a>.</p>
22:00:47 <sbp> HEREDOC
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22:00:53 <sbp> isn't that beautiful?
22:02:31 <[bjoern]> ~ http://en.wikipedia.org/w/api.php?action=parse&page=Schacht%20Asse%20II&prop=text
22:03:00 <sbp> it's being passed over because it contains this:
22:03:00 <sbp> and not 'id="coordinates"' in para
22:03:51 <[bjoern]> mediawiki's paragraph / empty line handling is all whacked up.
22:03:51 <sbp> .wik Tower of London
22:03:52 <phenny> "Her Majesty's Royal Palace and Fortress, more commonly known as the Tower of London (and historically as The Tower), is a historic fortress and scheduled monument in central London, England, on the north bank of the River Thames." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tower_of_London
22:04:33 <[bjoern]> Are you using http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schacht_Asse_II?action=render btw?
22:06:15 <sbp> .wik Schacht Asse II
22:06:16 <phenny> "The pit Asse II (Schacht Asse II) is a former salt mine used as a deep geological repository for radioactive waste in the mountain range of Asse in district Wolfenbüttel in Lower Saxony/Germany." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schacht_Asse_II
22:06:33 <sbp> I am not. probably should do
22:06:35 * [bjoern] feels inclined to check if you fixed it by changing the wikitext
22:06:50 <sbp> but I tend to like to consume the actual thing that people actually consume
22:06:59 <sbp> yeah, don't bother, it will only make you hate me even more
22:07:19 <[bjoern]> If that is possible
22:07:33 <sbp> you may however enjoy my change message
22:07:41 <[bjoern]> Kinda.
22:08:47 <[bjoern]> In de.wp it would not have worked, for nobody has approved your edit yet, and you don't qualify to have your edits reviewed automatically ... or actually, maybe you do, but can't approve other people's edits yourself.
22:09:10 <sbp> perhaps I should try to edit the de.wp article
22:09:37 <[bjoern]> Yeah, you need at least 300 edits to even meet one of the requirements
22:09:40 <sbp> was ist "adding a line break for some reason" auf non-cognitively disturbing Deutsch, bitte?
22:10:14 <sbp> oh nevermind, it's all academic anyway:
22:10:14 <sbp> http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schacht_Asse_II
22:10:32 <[bjoern]> Ergänzung eines Zeilenumbruchs aus irgendeinem Grund(e).
22:10:43 <[bjoern]> Not entirely sure about the "e" there
22:11:28 <[bjoern]> We tend to put coordingates between categories and interlanguage links, if I recall correctly, unless the template is supposed to generate a map
22:11:33 <sbp> I'm enjoying reading Lerchensporne as Lerchens-porne
22:11:49 <sbp> yeah, I just wanted to add a random line break somewhere else
22:12:01 <sbp> actually, might as well do it to Lerchensporne
22:12:02 <[bjoern]> With the Rechtschreibreform we know hyphenate teenager as tee-nager
22:12:06 <[bjoern]> .wik Tee
22:12:07 <phenny> "A tee is a stand used to support a stationary ball so that the player can strike it, particularly in golf, Tee Ball, American football, and rugby." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tee
22:12:08 <[bjoern]> .wik Nager
22:12:09 <sbp> hehe
22:12:10 <phenny> "Nagar (Urdu.نگر) is a town near to the Gilgit Valley in the Northern Areas of Pakistan." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nager
22:12:13 <[bjoern]> ups
22:12:15 <[bjoern]> .leo Tee
22:12:17 <phenny> bulb-tee (tech.) = der Wulststahl
22:12:17 <[bjoern]> .leo Nager
22:12:18 <phenny> shunt-Tee (tech.) = der H-Verzweiger, das Parallel-T-Glied
22:12:19 <phenny> tee = der Abzweiger (Wasserbau), die Markierung, die Verzweigung, der Zielpunkt
22:12:19 <phenny> — http://dict.leo.org/ende?search=Tee
22:12:20 <phenny> der Nager = gnawer, rodent (zool.)
22:12:21 <phenny> — http://dict.leo.org/ende?search=Nager
22:12:26 <[bjoern]> tee is tea
22:13:05 <sbp> phenny: "Nur Kleinigkeiten wurden verändert"?
22:13:05 <phenny> sbp: "Minor edit" (de to en, translate.google.com)
22:13:17 <sbp> phenny: "Seite speichern"?
22:13:17 <phenny> sbp: "Save page" (de to en, translate.google.com)
22:13:20 <sbp> YEAH!
22:13:48 <sbp> http://de.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Lerchensporne&action=historysubmit&diff=72797812&oldid=72554761
22:14:00 <sbp> I actually added two, because it's hard to stop me once I get going
22:14:20 <sbp> if it gets reverted, I will laugh quite hard
22:14:42 <[bjoern]> Well you do have an account, that's one thing in your favour
22:14:57 <sbp> no de.wp user page though
22:15:07 <sbp> perhaps I will soon have one accusing me of being a vandal
22:16:28 <[bjoern]> I got reverted once on de.wp with danish for "nonsense" as reason when I added a Gemeinde to its category (each Gemeinde is supposed to have a corresponding category once there are sufficiently many articles)
22:16:29 <[bjoern]> .wik Gemeinde
22:16:30 <phenny> "Gemeinde (plural: Gemeinden|SAY|[1]|) is a German word for borough, commune, community, township, municipality, or in religious contexts, a parish or congregation (sometimes, Kirchengemeinde). [2]|" - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gemeinde
22:16:43 <sbp> hehe
22:17:34 <[bjoern]> phenny, "Es gibt etwa 100 bis 400 Arten Lerchensporn-Arten (Corydalis)"?
22:17:35 <phenny> [bjoern]: "There are about 100 to 400 species Corydalis species (Corydalis)" (de to en, translate.google.com)
22:17:48 <[bjoern]> I have no idea why they duplicate species there
22:18:38 <[bjoern]> It should take only up to a couple of weeks until your edit is reviewed or reverted
22:18:44 <sbp> perhaps in case people miss the word the first time miss around
22:18:52 <jeanniecool> Penis?
22:19:04 <jeanniecool> ...or did you mean a different word, SeanB?
22:19:06 <sbp> auf lisp, p-enis
22:19:23 <sbp> no wait, I screwed that up
22:19:27 <sbp> it would be enis-p
22:19:59 <jeanniecool> and in pig latin, enispay.
22:20:29 <sbp> .gc "igpay atinlay"?
22:20:29 <phenny> "igpay atinlay"?: 40,900
22:21:19 <[bjoern]> The criteria to be able to review other people's edits are: registered for 60 days, at least 300 edits in the article namespace or 200 that have been reviewed, never been blocked, 15 edits each at least three days apart, 5 edits among the recent changes, edited at least 12 different pages, used the comment line with at least 30 edits, ...
22:21:39 <[bjoern]> been reverted at most five times.
22:21:50 <sbp> haha
22:21:57 <sbp> ooh
22:22:06 <sbp> I should go and revert the top editor five times on random articles
22:22:18 <sbp> or, at least, do that to anybody who reverts mine
22:22:34 <[bjoern]> reverts only count if from specific user groups
22:22:54 <[bjoern]> (admins, people whose edits are automatically reviewed and people who can review other people's edits)
22:23:12 <sbp> YOU ARGUMENT IS INVALID YOU ARE A SECHSMALZURÜCK
22:23:18 <[bjoern]> hehe
22:24:07 <sbp> I suppose then the argument would be whether retroactive banning counts
22:24:24 <[bjoern]> Alternatively you can qualify for voting rights (2 months registered, 200 article edits) and submit a plea to get added to the corresponding user group
22:24:29 <[bjoern]> it does
22:24:34 <sbp> excellent
22:24:39 <[bjoern]> that's actually the only way to opt out of it
22:25:12 <sbp> this is a good explanation of why there is no Schacht Asse II article
22:25:36 <[bjoern]> well there is w:de:Schachtanlage_Asse
22:26:07 <sbp> hmm. yes
22:26:14 <[bjoern]> ah I see w: does not work on en.wp
22:26:21 <[bjoern]> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/de:Schachtanlage_Asse does though
22:26:27 <sbp> it even has coordinates
22:26:52 <sbp> .wik de:Schachtanlage_Asse
22:26:53 <[bjoern]> even different ones
22:26:54 <phenny> Can't find anything in Wikipedia for "de:Schachtanlage_Asse".
22:27:05 <[bjoern]> Yeah, you should make that work
22:27:14 <sbp> .head http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/de:Schachtanlage_Asse
22:27:15 <phenny> sbp: 302, text/html, utf-8, 0 bytes
22:28:02 <sbp> someone actually wrote a patch to make phenny's wikipedia module multilingual
22:28:11 <sbp> I just didn't get around to applying it yet
22:28:18 <sbp> though, now, the 302 following is tempting too
22:28:25 <sbp> does it work with all kinds of random shit?
22:28:32 <sbp> or only things which have been interlinked in some way?
22:28:38 <[bjoern]> Let me get the list
22:29:10 <[bjoern]> http://en.wikipedia.org/w/api.php?action=query&meta=siteinfo&siprop=interwikimap
22:29:47 <sbp> ooh, http://ang.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bēoƿulf
22:30:03 <sbp> okay, if it contains Anglo-Saxon then it's probably complete enough
22:30:16 <sbp> and if it isn't, who cares. it contains Anglo-Saxon!
22:31:38 <[bjoern]> Apparently only http://en.wikipedia.org/w/api.php?action=query&meta=siteinfo&siprop=interwikimap&sifilteriw=local will work though
22:31:53 <[bjoern]> (only *.wikipedia.org)
22:32:12 <sbp> well I just checked http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ang:Bēoƿulf
22:32:29 <[bjoern]> Yeah, I mean, things like memoryalpha:Spock will not redirect
22:32:38 <[bjoern]> even though [[memoryalpha:Spock]] will work
22:32:43 <sbp> ah
22:33:26 <sbp> .py urllib.urlopen('http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/de:Schachtanlage_Asse').info()
22:33:29 <phenny> content-length: 67344
22:33:38 <sbp> .py dict(urllib.urlopen('http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/de:Schachtanlage_Asse').info())
22:33:38 <phenny> {'content-length': '67344', 'via': 'HTTP/1.1 GWA', 'x-cache': 'MISS from sq62.wikimedia.org', 'x-squid-error': 'ERR_ACCESS_DENIED 0', 'x-cache-lookup': 'NONE from sq62.wikimedia.org:80', 'x-google-cache-control': 'remote-fetch', 'server': 'squid/2.7.STABLE7', 'connection': 'close', 'date': 'Mon, 05 Apr 2010 22:33:38 GMT', 'content-type': 'text/html
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22:34:25 <sbp> well that's clearly mad
22:35:24 <sbp> oh, I know
22:35:47 <[bjoern]> I suppose it automatically follows redirects
22:36:21 <sbp> nah, I think it's banning the client because it doesn't have "Mozilla/" in the UA string
22:36:32 <[bjoern]> ah yeah it does that
22:36:37 <[bjoern]> also, you need a user agent
22:36:53 <[bjoern]> they recently started blocking any that don't have one
22:37:21 <sbp> hang on, cooking some evil
22:37:24 <[bjoern]> (with the api maybe, and always did so for the normal namespaces maybe?)
22:42:27 <sbp> .py urllib._urlopener=type('G',(object,urllib.URLopener,),{'__init__':lambda s,*a:setattr(s,'version',urllib.URLopener.__init__(s,*a)or'Mozilla/5.0 (G)')})(); dict(urllib.urlopen('http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/de:Schachtanlage_Asse').info())
22:42:27 <phenny> IOError: ('http error', 403L, 'Forbidden', <mimetools.Message instance at 0xc4d66faf2b818c0>)
22:42:47 <[bjoern]> hehe "The incident on July 12, 2007, happened the same day and in the same area that a Reuters photographer, Namir Noor-Eldeen, and his driver were killed." - http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/36182383/ns/world_news-mideastn_africa/
22:42:47 <Monty> http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/72/Portrait_of_a_Woman.jpg
22:43:14 <sbp> classic quality MSNBC reporting
22:43:19 <[bjoern]> Well Monty, that's a dress mostly, not so much a woman.
22:43:24 <Monty> Patineur Grotesque shows a Dime"? / Arnold: No, there's been using filters and Bruno
22:43:34 <sbp> more dress than woman
22:43:45 <[bjoern]> I didn't want to be overly brief
22:45:05 <sbp> .py urllib._urlopener=type('G',(object,urllib.URLopener,),{'__init__':lambda s,*a:setattr(s,'version',urllib.URLopener.__init__(s,*a)or'Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10_4_11; en) AppleWebKit/531.22.7 (KHTML, like Gecko) Version/4.0.5 Safari/531.22.7')})(); dict(urllib.urlopen('http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/de:Schachtanlage_Asse').info())
22:45:08 <phenny> IOError: ('http error', 403L, 'Forbidden', <mimetools.Message instance at 0xaf27828c88238c28>)
22:45:16 <sbp> FORBIDDEN
22:45:41 <[bjoern]> QUESTION IS WHY, IS IT NOT?
22:45:50 <sbp> AGREED
22:46:15 <[bjoern]> WITHOUT SEEING THE ACTUAL NETWORK TRAFFIC IT IS DIFFICULT TO TELL HOWEVER
22:46:15 *** [[sroracle]] is now known as zz_[[sroracle]]
22:46:45 <sbp> I suspect some kind of byte-based subterfuge
22:46:57 <[bjoern]> damn bytes.
22:47:11 <[bjoern]> What did they ever do for us.
22:47:24 <[bjoern]> "Look at me, I'm an octet. whoohoo!!1"
22:47:28 <sbp> \x00 did NOTHING
22:47:57 <[bjoern]> When 0x00 comes along, it's usually EOD.
22:48:12 <[bjoern]> Kinda like the incarnation of Godwin.
22:48:12 <sbp> so '\x00' is an empty document?
22:48:30 <sbp> Hitler was a null byte? maybe...
22:48:47 <[bjoern]> By itself it could at least impersonate one.
22:49:13 <[bjoern]> Actually, thinking about it, 0x00 could be considered a cult
22:49:20 <[bjoern]> as empty documents often follow it.
22:49:58 <[bjoern]> http://i.imgur.com/NVih0.jpg
22:50:09 <[bjoern]> (commentary in the middle, if it is not obvious)
22:50:22 <sbp> .py urllib._urlopener=type('G',(object,urllib.URLopener,),{'__init__':lambda s,*a:setattr(s,'version',urllib.URLopener.__init__(s,*a)or'Mozilla/5.0 (G)','http_error_default':lambda self, url, fp, errcode, errmsg, headers:urllib.addinfourl(fp, [headers, errcode], "http:" + url))})(); dict(urllib.urlopen('http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/de:Schachtanlage_Asse').info())
22:50:24 <phenny> SyntaxError: invalid syntax (<string>, line 1)
22:50:58 <sbp> .py urllib._urlopener=type('G',(object,urllib.URLopener,),{'__init__':lambda s,*a:setattr(s,'version',urllib.URLopener.__init__(s,*a)or'Mozilla/5.0 (G)','http_error_default':lambda self, url, fp, errcode, errmsg, headers:urllib.addinfourl(fp, [headers, errcode], "http:" + url)})(); dict(urllib.urlopen('http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/de:Schachtanlage_Asse').info())
22:50:59 <phenny> SyntaxError: invalid syntax (<string>, line 1)
22:50:59 <[bjoern]> I would not rule out appengine doing weird things.
22:51:37 *** zz_[[sroracle]] is now known as [[sroracle]]
22:52:21 <sbp> .py urllib._urlopener=type('G',(object,urllib.URLopener,),{'__init__':lambda s,*a:setattr(s,'version',urllib.URLopener.__init__(s,*a)or'Mozilla/5.0 (G)'),'http_error_default':lambda self, url, fp, errcode, errmsg, headers:urllib.addinfourl(fp, [headers, errcode], "http:" + url)})(); dict(urllib.urlopen('http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/de:Schachtanlage_Asse').info())
22:52:22 <phenny> ValueError: dictionary update sequence element #0 has length 10; 2 is required
22:52:27 <sbp> ooh
22:52:34 <sbp> that's a pretty nice one
22:53:14 <sbp> .g CNN
22:53:15 <phenny> sbp: http://www.cnn.com/
22:53:41 <sbp> CNN does have "Nude protest" in there though
22:54:06 <sbp> perhaps they just didn't hear about it yet
22:54:22 <sbp> http://edition.cnn.com/search/?query=wikileaks&x=0&y=0&primaryType=mixed
22:54:28 <sbp> no articles with wikileaks in them recently
22:55:25 <[bjoern]> there was http://ptrace.fefe.de/reddit.png earlier
22:56:51 <sbp> .title http://www.reuters.com/article/mediaNews/idUSN0512970120100405
22:56:52 <phenny> sbp: Leaked US video shows Iraq deaths, including Reuters staff | Reuters
22:57:10 <sbp> blocks searches: nsh found that too
22:57:32 <[bjoern]> Not entirely sure what's newsish about this though, the iraqi police and witnesses said this all along.
22:58:38 <sbp> "A U.S. defense official confirmed that the video and audio were authentic."
22:59:17 <[bjoern]> Yeah, msnbc had that already, noting the source doesn't want to put its name behind it
22:59:24 <sbp> "Video of the incident from two U.S. Apache helicopters and photographs taken of the scene were shown to Reuters editors in Baghdad on July 25, 2007 in an off-the-record briefing."
22:59:29 <[bjoern]> also, much earlier people confirmed there is such a video
22:59:40 <[bjoern]> hehe
23:00:02 <[bjoern]> Well, they didn't complain much about what they ... didn't see
23:00:42 <[bjoern]> I wonder if this is a subtitle or a lead, "WASHINGTON, April 5 (Reuters) - Classified U.S. military video showing a 2007 attack by Apache helicopters that killed a dozen people in Baghdad, including two Reuters news staff, was released on Monday by a group that promotes leaking to fight government and corporate corruption."
23:01:02 <sbp> it's only third most popular on Reuters
23:01:18 <sbp> yeah, I figured they were using video as a mass noun
23:01:29 <[bjoern]> woods? ipads? celebrity planning to adopt a child? jacksons doctor to court?
23:01:38 <sbp> until I got to was "released"
23:01:39 <[bjoern]> Ipad and woods.
23:01:42 <sbp> iPads and Tiger Woods, yeah
23:01:53 <sbp> *"was released"
23:02:07 <[bjoern]> Isn't woods some gameboy character?
23:02:12 <sbp> and then I knew for sure, actually
23:02:13 <[bjoern]> I vaguely recall that
23:02:40 <[bjoern]> .wik Dr. Mario
23:02:40 <phenny> "Dr. Mario (video game), an arcade-style puzzle video game by Nintendo" - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dr._Mario
23:02:50 <[bjoern]> in a time somewhere around that point
23:03:25 <[bjoern]> "Dr. Mario throws vitamins that the player must align in order to destroy the viruses that populate the playing field"
23:03:40 <[bjoern]> Edutainment, I suppose
23:04:23 <[bjoern]> What's it with you being up late like this? Practising for Eurovision? Monsters under your bridge?
23:04:30 <[bjoern]> Clowns?
23:06:06 <[bjoern]> "The gunsight tracks the two Reuters news staff as the fliers identify their cameras as weapons." - right, wikileaks didn't quite comment on that in the edited video
23:06:44 <[bjoern]> (as in, it is not rendered implausible there that the camera men are not surrounded by people carrying guns)
23:07:20 <[bjoern]> Monty should be more emblematic
23:07:21 <Monty> lol
23:07:33 <[bjoern]> Monty: i iz quite serious
23:07:37 <Monty> IMHO, dodgy highest bricks attacks KDE dribbling corpses :P
23:08:48 <[[sroracle]]> Hah
23:09:07 <[bjoern]> Oh "Tiger Woods took full responsibility for the scandal that prompted his leave from golf" that actually is some kind of news
23:09:33 <[bjoern]> "and vowed to give the sport more respect ahead of his return to the Masters" is pure lol though
23:10:14 <[bjoern]> ""I lied to a lot of people, deceived a lot of people, kept others in the dark," the American world number one, who sported a goatee and wore a gray, yellow, pink and white-striped shirt and black trousers" now that's quality reporting
23:10:16 <jsled> I missed when he "disrespected golf".
23:11:02 <[bjoern]> You cannot respect putting balls in holes enough
23:11:15 <jsled> he did it on his spare time.
23:11:19 <jsled> MAD RESPECT>
23:11:36 <[bjoern]> Still trying to figure out what this is about
23:12:42 <[[sroracle]]> Its about a guy trying to put balls in holes he shouldn't.
23:12:59 <[[sroracle]]> 15 holes.
23:13:23 <[bjoern]> I got that, in a way. What's his handicap?
23:33:42 <sbp> I'm not up late
23:33:43 <phenny> sbp: 23:15Z <nslater> tell sbp http://skitch.com/nslater/n7c4i/your-orders (part of my order, to answer your question)
23:33:54 <[bjoern]> lies
23:34:03 <sbp> nslater's in your pocket, and he's stealing all your amazon reviews
23:34:24 <[bjoern]> Look, at least have the courtesy to come up with some fucked up excuse.
23:34:55 <sbp> usually my fucked up excuses are the truth
23:35:05 <sbp> I just say them because I know you'll think they're fucked up excuses
23:35:19 <sbp> today just probably had something to do with eating too much easter chocolate
23:36:02 <sbp> I've just spent half an hour replying to mail
23:36:21 <sbp> and now I just got another from nslater
23:36:25 <[bjoern]> Hey, just because I ask difficult question, that's no excuse to torture me with mentioning foodstuffs.
23:36:47 <sbp> all that eating was in the past
23:36:55 <sbp> I'm sure even you have eaten in the past
23:37:01 <[bjoern]> Which makes anything better ... how?
23:37:03 <sbp> well, not entirely sure
23:37:27 <sbp> I could still devour a planet
23:37:38 <[bjoern]> I do vaguely recall a dream where I was eating briefly
23:37:49 <[bjoern]> I would welcome that
23:38:09 <sbp> also if I wanted to torture you I could have done it after I had this epic Chinese meal the other day. there was just so much food I didn't really know what to do with it all. so I eated it
23:38:28 <sbp> and I still felt full a day later
23:38:46 <sbp> that was great. that was some proper gluttony
23:38:56 <[bjoern]> There are no epic meals that would get past my fake detector
23:39:17 <sbp> "I've had all I need, and then I've had more. now I feel full to bursting and there's still a third left. but it's so tasty! I'm going to eated it. I'm going to eated that food"
23:40:13 <[bjoern]> Beers help me to ignore you. Would, if i had any
23:40:21 <sbp> gah, I'm really hungry now too
23:40:38 <sbp> I tried to meta-torture you just by mentioning the kind of torture I would do
23:40:42 <sbp> but I got blowback
23:40:48 <[bjoern]> I sincerly doubt you know hunger as I know hunger.
23:40:58 <sbp> I'm so hungry I could eat my own torture
23:41:11 <[bjoern]> I would do so instantly if I could
23:41:47 <sbp> I wonder if someone reverted my article yet
23:42:02 <sbp> I'm going to check. what was it? Phylumporn or something?
23:42:12 <[bjoern]> neither nor
23:42:29 <sbp> my 2 byte edit still holds
23:42:31 <[bjoern]> http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/Sbp
23:45:49 <sbp> <nwalah> Fixed bug. Every single XProc test suite test failed. Fixed fixed bug.
23:46:33 <[bjoern]> But are there XProc tests that wouldn't fail?
23:46:46 <[bjoern]> Also, they have been at this for many many moons
23:49:22 <sbp> The Guardian asks: "Is it possible to recognise people over and over again just by their nose?"
23:50:34 <[bjoern]> I'd first investigate if I even want to
23:51:34 <sbp> yeah, I was going to say something along the lines of "flip: who gives one?", but then I decided that I wasn't even sure whether I'd decided whether I was sure or not that I didn't particularly care about whether I wanted to care about that or not
23:53:05 <[bjoern]> indeed
23:53:58 <sbp> why don't we have any rot13 people tonight?
23:54:03 <sbp> oh, I didn't even check how it went with the others
23:54:55 <sbp> hmm, it appears that fupp fupped off
23:55:00 <[bjoern]> fupp!
23:55:16 <sbp> I did get a private message from the other one
23:55:21 <sbp> nothing too amusing though
23:55:34 <sbp> just reiterating his humble request for a shell
23:55:51 <[bjoern]> shells are often food
23:55:53 <sbp> something along the lines of "u giv shell ??"
23:55:57 <[bjoern]> plz
23:55:58 <sbp> yeah, no more food
23:56:02 <[bjoern]> :(
23:56:28 <sbp> talk of food only leads to depression
23:57:17 <sbp> and Phylumporn
23:57:47 <sbp> oh, it's Tuesday
23:57:54 <sbp> did you enjoy your Easter?
23:58:21 <sbp> one thing I noticed about Easter this year is that it was a big deal
23:58:30 <sbp> I've noticed this before about Bonfire Night
23:58:54 <[bjoern]> I don't enjoy, and already told you so
23:59:03 <sbp> for a few year period earlier this decade we used to have insane Bonfire Nights, lots of shows and stuff going on, and bonkers amounts of fireworks. then I'd like to say the "financial crisis" came along and wiped that out
23:59:06 <[bjoern]> Biikebrennen was some time ago
23:59:18 <sbp> yeah, but it wasn't all over yet. you had Emmauspathday
23:59:32 <sbp> but I think it actually declimed before the "financial crisis"
23:59:35 <[bjoern]> .wik Biikebrennen
23:59:36 <phenny> "The Biikebrennen (in German), Biikebrånen (in North Frisian) or Pers Awten (in Danish) is an annual celebration held on 21 February in North Frisia, in the German state of Schleswig-Holstein and in South Jutland." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biikebrennen
23:59:39 <sbp> and now this year, the same thing happened for Easter
23:59:49 <sbp> lots of people have been going on about how important Easter is
