00:00:05 <nsh> should be good
00:00:09 <nsh> to gooooo
00:01:00 <sbp> oh this reminds me of that episode of the IT Crowd where Jen has THE INTERNET in a box
00:01:04 <sbp> and she's worried about breaking it
00:01:22 <nsh> 04-06 05:00PM 18.719 Would have sent tweet: @acarmichaelmp this is a test of the new PesterMP twitter service, which will allow citizens to get in touch with you more easi
00:01:22 <nsh> D 04-06 05:00PM 18.802 Would have sent tweet: @AdamAfriyie this is a test of the new PesterMP twitter service, which will allow citizens to get in touch with you more easily
00:01:30 <sbp> whatever you do, don't link to http://www.royalmail.com/portal/rm/jump2?catId=400144&mediaId=42800683 - you might break the internet. BE CAREFUL
00:01:33 <nsh> (and another 115 of those)
00:01:38 <sbp> yay
00:01:41 <nsh> FUCK IT LET'S DO IT LIVE
00:01:52 <nsh> (we'll do it live?)
00:01:59 <nsh> silly o'reillymemes
00:02:04 <sbp> you're going to do it live
00:02:07 <sbp> I'm going to watch
00:02:18 <sbp> whether it works or not there's going to be comedy
00:02:22 <sbp> so I'm quite content in this matter
00:02:48 <sbp> BigJibby: heh!
00:03:01 <BigJibby> :)
00:03:23 <nsh> follow @unftest
00:03:27 <nsh> he'll be taking the heat
00:03:49 <sbp> following
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00:04:42 <nsh> oh noes, error
00:05:39 <nsh> stupid indentation
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00:05:40 <Monty> Thank goodness, jasonw222 is back!
00:05:50 <nsh> around we go again
00:05:55 <bsh> "Royalmail.com is for everybody" ... respecting our terms and conditions.
00:06:14 * sbp reviews the logs, sees a lot of "class is insecure; do not use it" too
00:06:14 <bsh> nsh is coding python and complaining about indentation?
00:06:28 <nsh> yes
00:06:35 <bsh> excellent, please continue.
00:06:41 <nsh> will do my best
00:06:45 <bsh> You never do.
00:06:51 <nsh> exactly
00:07:15 <bsh> I could not doing your best better though.
00:07:39 <nsh> it's blocking
00:07:41 <nsh> that's not good
00:07:45 <nsh> should redirect
00:07:57 <nsh> maybe you need to explicitly end the connection
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00:08:30 <sbp> you could use a non-MP list of people to test
00:08:30 <nsh> deadline error
00:08:43 <nsh> this is true
00:09:00 <sbp> woah, that's a big error
00:09:14 <sbp> it made that one red and put a black on yellow ! in a triangle by it
00:09:19 <sbp> I think to draw attention to it in some way
00:09:43 <sbp> wonder if I can draw that in ascii
00:10:02 <sbp> /!\ is too obvious
00:10:10 <sbp> .u comb under
00:10:11 <phenny> U+20E8 COMBINING TRIPLE UNDERDOT (◌⃨)
00:10:14 <sbp> .u comb underc
00:10:15 <phenny> sbp: Sorry, no results for 'comb underc'.
00:10:16 <sbp> .u comb undersc
00:10:16 <Monty> "you"
00:10:17 <phenny> sbp: Sorry, no results for 'comb undersc'.
00:10:17 <bsh> One line?
00:10:22 <sbp> .u comb low line
00:10:23 <phenny> U+0332 COMBINING LOW LINE (◌̲)
00:10:26 <nsh> only succeeded in sending two
00:10:43 <nsh> weak
00:11:10 <sbp> /!̲\
00:11:17 <sbp> looks pretty good to me
00:11:33 <Arnia> hm
00:11:34 <Arnia> [[[
00:11:36 <Arnia> GET /search -d q=%23debill since=2010-04-06 until=2010-04-06 rpp=100 page=1 -G > debill-tweets-1.json
00:11:37 <Arnia> ]]]
00:11:51 <Arnia> not a bad commandline really
00:14:51 <sbp> I love how nsh's test message is perfectly respectible and professional, and seems really intended to make the system seem legitimate in scope and usage, but then he seems to have forgotten that he's sending it from an account called @unftest
00:15:04 <nsh> shh
00:15:07 <sbp> hehe
00:15:23 <nsh> :)
00:16:03 <nsh> so
00:16:06 <nsh> what do i have to do
00:16:19 <nsh> set cron jobs to send more tweets or something?
00:18:05 <sbp> tav might be needed at this point again
00:18:12 <tav> ?
00:18:13 <sbp> as I say, I've never actually used GAE
00:18:24 <nsh> deferred task
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00:18:27 <sbp> I'm just piecing my knowledge together from vicarious sugar packet sources
00:18:28 <nsh> seems to be the way
00:18:33 <nsh> the best sources there are
00:18:36 <nsh> whoah
00:18:40 <nsh> there's anna!
00:18:40 <tav> .g taskqueue
00:18:41 <phenny> tav: http://code.google.com/appengine/docs/python/taskqueue/
00:18:52 <nsh> cool tav
00:19:31 <sbp> ooh, taskqueueueueueueueueueueueueueueueueueueueueueueueueueueueueueueueueueueueueueueueueeueueuue I'd better stop because I won't get bored of this
00:19:52 <sbp> or was that a sign that I got bored. hmm
00:19:59 <sbp> ueueueueueueueueueueueueueueueue
00:20:01 <sbp> nope I wasn't bored
00:20:23 <Arnia> twetweueueueueue
00:20:28 <sbp> ehheh
00:20:34 <sbp> twe the twe tweet
00:20:35 <bsh> ~.
00:20:52 <Arnia> -..-....---.--..--.--...
00:20:57 <nsh> twe the twe tweeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeet
00:21:51 <sbp> my private static Buzmerps $buzmerps = new Buzmerps buzmerps[∞];
00:22:40 <sbp> might as well only allocate for infinite buzmerps
00:22:46 <sbp> you're not going to need a transcardinal amount
00:22:54 <sbp> that would be premature optimisation
00:23:38 <nsh> you're right
00:23:57 <nsh> but we should probably make it p-adic just to be safe
00:25:06 <sbp> I came up with a place notation a while ago which I hoped bore some resemblance to the p-adics, but I didn't bother to check it out until recently. certainly seems to bear some resemblance but might only be skin deep
00:25:15 <sbp> anyway, alt.dismissive.sbp.going.going.'night!
00:26:00 <nsh> night mangs
00:26:04 <nsh> will probably crash soon too
00:26:11 <nsh> subversion may wait til teh morrow
00:33:28 <bsh> phenny, tell sbp that group is no on my server
00:33:28 <phenny> bsh: I'll pass that on when sbp is around.
00:46:22 <nsh> phenny, tell sbp whoop whoop it works
00:46:22 <phenny> nsh: I'll pass that on when sbp is around.
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01:26:24 <sandmaster> hi
01:26:36 <bsh> yo mang whaddup?
01:27:48 <sandmaster> you speak spanish yes or not
01:28:28 <bsh> Lo siento, no hablo español.
01:28:39 <sandmaster> mm q mal
01:28:56 <sandmaster> jeje q onda!!
01:29:39 <bsh> Evidentemente, usted no lo hacen bien.
01:30:01 <sandmaster> q
01:30:09 <sandmaster> de donde eres??
01:30:09 <bsh> Do you like reindeers?
01:30:48 <bsh> Actualmente estoy sentado en mi silla.
01:31:25 <nsh> AHORA ES TAMBIEN!
01:31:25 <nsh> VALEY MUY PANTALONES
01:32:28 <bsh> Verdadero.
01:33:04 <sandmaster> oye bsh tienes email??
01:33:37 <bsh> I conduct all my personal communication using twitter.
01:34:07 <sandmaster> ok
01:34:18 <sandmaster> y nadie habla o q
01:34:24 <sandmaster> se le comieron la lengua
01:35:08 <bsh> Por favor, no insulte mi lengua.
01:37:06 <bsh> ¿Qué te trae por aquí?
01:38:02 <sandmaster> naa ps queria saber si alguno es hacker
01:39:14 <bsh> buzmerps[] es, pero ella no está alrededor.
01:39:45 <bsh> Tengo mucha hambre. ¿Tiene algún renos?
01:40:33 <sandmaster> <bsh> eres hacker o no
01:41:24 <bsh> Me gusta cortar en pedazos los animales. ¿Eso cuenta?
01:42:05 <bsh> Yesterday I got so hungry, I almost ate my iPad.
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01:43:58 <sandmaster> jaja andas alucinando
01:45:11 <bsh> Well... Usted es el otro que habló en español a una persona que dijo que no habla español.
01:46:58 <sandmaster> oye bsh
01:53:41 <sandmaster> eres un hacker
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01:57:59 <Arnia> Just written a little script called cssextract
01:58:03 <Arnia> [[[
01:58:06 <Arnia> curl http://www.publications.parliament.uk/pa/cm/cmtoday/cmdebate/15.htm | cssextract -s 'a[name=spkr_1]+p b'
01:58:24 <Arnia> Mr. Tom Watson
01:58:26 <Arnia> ]]]
01:58:36 <bsh> What's it using?
01:58:43 <Arnia> python
01:58:53 <bsh> As in, to parse and evaluate selectors.
01:59:04 <Arnia> ah, it is basically a wrapper around lxml
01:59:17 <bsh> It's got selectors support these days?
01:59:20 <Arnia> it is a convenience really
01:59:22 <Arnia> Yes
01:59:27 <bsh> Interesting.
01:59:55 <bsh> Now for xpath such tools are already standard...
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05:48:53 <Monty> hi monkinetic, how ya doing?
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06:52:23 <Monty> But what does jetx have to do with the price of fish?
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06:53:15 <Monty> clearly getting it transfers tablets as if there api servers go through them money so progress handler
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10:03:27 <sbp> wow, that first Messi goal last night was pretty spectacular
10:15:51 <sbp> http://twitter.com/#search?q=PesterMP
10:21:42 <nsh> i suppose i have no excuse not to do physics studying now
10:21:43 <sbp> whoops, missed @TallTed in the survey last night I think
10:21:45 <nsh> : : : ( ( (
10:21:49 <nsh> noes
10:21:54 <sbp> until you start to trend
10:22:10 <nsh> i guess then i'll be too busy with all the champaign and biznatches
10:22:39 <nsh> champagne truffles and toupés
10:23:13 <sbp> and the buzmerps[]
10:23:41 <nsh> totals
10:25:07 <sbp> lisp... what!
10:25:11 <sbp> no lisppaste!
10:25:37 <sbp> http://paste.lisp.org/+236R
10:27:03 <nsh> lol
10:27:21 <nsh> how was my spanish translated?!?!
10:27:29 <nsh> i didn't think we'd come that far as a species
10:27:34 <sbp> hehe
10:27:46 <sbp> NOW IS TOO!
10:28:14 <nsh> i'm sure valey meant something too
10:28:20 <nsh> the spanish teacher woman was always saying it
10:28:22 <nsh> maybe she had a tic
10:28:28 <nsh> phenny, es en "baley"?
10:28:29 <phenny> nsh: "Baley" (es to en, translate.google.com)
10:28:33 <nsh> phenny, es en "balei"?
10:28:33 <phenny> nsh: "Baleias" (es to en, translate.google.com)
10:28:37 <nsh> phenny, es en "valei"?
10:28:38 <phenny> nsh: "valei" (es to en, translate.google.com)
10:28:38 <sbp> probably valé or something equeaully woieerd
10:28:46 <nsh> phenny, es en "valé"?
10:28:46 <phenny> nsh: "voucher" (es to en, translate.google.com)
10:28:48 <nsh> lol
10:28:50 <sbp> hehe
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10:30:57 <sbp> wow, OmniGraffle is £29.99
10:31:04 <sbp> TWO NINETY-NINE MAYBE
10:31:57 <nsh> OmniGraffle eh?
10:32:04 <nsh> oh noes
10:32:07 <nsh> got a server error
10:32:14 <nsh> on the bleedin' appspot dashboard
10:33:09 <nsh> ah well, app still seems to be up
10:34:12 <sbp> looking
10:34:22 <sbp> oh, I see what you mean
10:34:23 <sbp> Error: Server Error
10:34:23 <sbp> The server encountered an error and could not complete your request.
10:34:23 <sbp> If the problem persists, please report your problem and mention this error message and the query that caused it.
10:35:12 <nsh> ididn'tdoit
10:37:00 <sbp> it's back up now
10:37:28 <nsh> coolk
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10:39:03 <nsh> annoying, that depreciation warning on SmartCookie
10:39:10 <sbp> yeah
10:39:33 <sbp> GO HOCK A PHLEGMON, DEPRECATION WARNING
10:39:53 <nsh> totalslemont
10:40:05 <sbp> pesterPM hasn't had a retweet in 15 minutes
10:40:10 <sbp> disturbing
10:40:18 <sbp> PesterMP I should say
10:40:54 <nsh> conspiracy i say
10:41:02 <nsh> black helicopters
10:41:11 <nsh> grey balloons
10:41:21 <sbp> "capn_b I'm not entirely sure use of the PesterMP script is going to be productive. For a start, it's flooding the #debill stream."
10:41:22 <sbp> hehe
10:41:41 <sbp> because the one tweet per second in it last night wasn't floody at all
10:42:29 <nsh> mmm
10:42:50 <nsh> should maybe add a hashtag to people can filter it
10:42:59 <sbp> nah
10:43:09 <nsh> yeah, bollocks to them
10:43:18 <sbp> people should just not add tags to their messages
10:43:19 <nsh> i should add ascii cocks instead
10:43:23 <nsh> totals
10:43:27 <sbp> actually, add a warning about that above the post form?
10:43:27 <nsh> problem solved
10:43:37 <nsh> oh, how-worded?
10:43:46 <sbp> I'll modify my copy, hold
10:43:47 <nsh> twitter is redirecting me to this http://twitter.com/debill
10:43:49 <nsh> lolps
10:43:49 <Monty> [('/', MainPage),
10:44:56 <sbp> nsh: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/4096165/tmp/pester02.html
10:45:37 <nsh> cool
10:45:42 <sbp> "rachwarwick Thought my twitfeed was stuttering but no, @guitartim has just discovered PesterMP and sent us all the same tweet a million times over."
10:45:48 <nsh> might add "polluting"
10:45:54 <sbp> when Swhack does Twitter, we do it properly
10:45:56 <sbp> polluting?
10:45:57 <Monty> Victor and finally found a blog I've never met
10:46:58 <nsh> avoid polluting hash tags
10:47:10 <sbp> good idea
10:47:12 <sbp> added to my copy
10:47:16 <nsh> cooool
10:47:48 <nsh> comm't'd
10:50:41 <nsh> http://www.reddit.com/r/ukpolitics/comments/bnkgs/i_was_feeling_bored_and_subversive_so_i_made_a/
10:51:37 <sbp> lols
10:52:39 <sbp> "alexstapleton This is definitely a terrible idea. http://pestermp.appspot.com"
10:52:42 <sbp> definitely a terrible idea
10:52:49 <sbp> (but spreading the URI is a good idea)
10:52:49 <[bjoern]> nu
10:52:58 <sbp> yo cap'n b
10:53:08 <sbp> we're doing democracy and technology. every little girl's dream
10:53:19 <[bjoern]> and a bottle of rum
10:54:25 <sbp> nsh: task queue is at 8% already
10:54:34 <sbp> there are 676 tasks in the queue
10:54:38 <sbp> and it's running 20 per minute
10:54:39 <nsh> oh noes
10:54:49 <nsh> guess i should make it, faster?
10:54:56 <nsh> it's going to fill hella soon otherwise
10:55:01 <sbp> yeah, more per minute
10:55:02 <sbp> more than 20
10:55:09 <nsh> i'll put it back to one a second
10:55:31 <sbp> it's still pumping out yours from like an hour ago
10:55:32 <sbp> heh
10:55:53 <nsh> yeah, my limit was reached from lots of fucking around
10:56:07 <sbp> ah, right
10:56:21 <nsh> might be worth making it send more than one per task
10:56:25 <nsh> dunno
10:56:27 <sbp> code on github or anywhere by the way?
10:56:33 <nsh> nah, i'll do that now
10:56:35 <nsh> it's a bit of a mess
10:56:37 <nsh> whatever
11:01:06 <sbp> perhaps people are thinking of it as a form letter
11:01:15 <sbp> if MPs got the same message over and over, that would be annoying
11:01:31 <sbp> but a different single message from each person using it...
11:01:38 <sbp> doesn't seem like much of a big deal really
11:01:48 <sbp> also, it's twitter
11:01:53 <sbp> people get @mentioned all the time anyway
11:05:30 <sbp> today's order paper:
11:05:30 <sbp> http://www.publications.parliament.uk/pa/cm200910/cmagenda/ob100407.htm
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14:00:21 <[bjoern]> yo
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14:20:02 <[bjoern]> Of the top ten http://www.tiobe.com/index.php/content/paperinfo/tpci/index.html I've written non-trivial applications in eight of the languages (nine if you consider Turbo Pascal as part of Delphi, all ten if you also allow Visual Basic for Applications under (Visual) Basic)
14:21:28 <[bjoern]> Not done much of ObjC Ruby SAS Go ABAP MATLAB, trivial things with lua and pl/sql, non-trivial things with ActionScript, of #11-20
14:21:51 <BigJibby> why is lua so low?
14:23:38 <[bjoern]> I find the position of ActionScript more curious. Or put differently, I find a number of those preceding suspect. But do note how they derive the rankings.
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14:32:58 <[bjoern]> People of luxemburg, ireland, hungary, and czech republic drink more alcohol per capita than us :|
14:44:30 <[bjoern]> I submit me candidate for headline of the day http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-504083_162-20001737-504083.html
14:44:31 <[bjoern]> .title
14:44:31 <phenny> [bjoern]: Topless Women Shocked That People Like to Watch Topless Women - Crimesider - CBS News
14:45:13 <[bjoern]> "equal-opportunity public toplessness" I do support that
14:45:40 <[bjoern]> I also demand equal discrimination against people I don't like to see topless.
14:46:25 <[bjoern]> "It's not illegal for a woman to be topless in public in Maine, although it is illegal in many other states." hmm hmm
14:47:35 <[bjoern]> "The elaborate lengths to which people will apparently go to avoid a girl in a tux are dispiriting at best" - http://www.salon.com/life/broadsheet/2010/04/06/constance_mcmillen_fake_prom/ also matches the theme.
14:48:55 <[bjoern]> "Lucasfilm Animation is developing a "Star Wars" comedy series."
14:50:11 <[bjoern]> .title http://www.popsci.com/technology/article/2010-03/kebab-cooking-robot-automates-germanys-favorite-fast-food
14:50:12 <phenny> [bjoern]: A Kebab-Cooking Robot Automates Germany's Favorite Fast Food | Popular Science
14:51:14 <[bjoern]> .title http://mashable.com/2010/04/07/cyber-crime-spies/
14:51:15 <phenny> [bjoern]: China-Based Hackers May Have Used Twitter, Google to Attack Dalai Lama, UN
14:51:17 <[bjoern]> unpossible!
14:51:30 <[bjoern]> The dangers that lurk in the cloud.
14:51:49 <[bjoern]> "Murdoch Says Publishers Must Stand Up to Google, Bing"
14:52:37 <sbp> —
14:52:38 <sbp> However, McDowell said she plans to organize similar demonstrations in the future and said she would be more "aggressive" in discouraging oglers.
14:52:40 <sbp> —
14:52:44 <sbp> http://www.pressherald.com/news/Women-march-topless-in-Portland-without-incident.html
14:53:38 <[bjoern]> It's sad commentary rarely points out that no matter how little payment publishers demand for their content, it will discourage people to seek out news from many independent sources, unlike now where google news users don't care all that much if they get some story from published A, B, C, D, or E.
14:54:07 <[bjoern]> That Murdoch is not so worried about the financial health of his assets should be obvious.
14:54:51 <[bjoern]> 'It goes by the uninspiring name "FFDR-V1004", but Ahmet Kalyoncu is convinced his meat-cutting robot will transform the doner kebab industry, which held its first conference in Berlin this weekend.'
14:55:01 <[bjoern]> .gc +iDöner
14:55:02 <phenny> +iDöner: 84
14:55:33 <[bjoern]> "the application provides a doner animation which is controlable by touches"
14:55:36 <BigJibby> http://www.google.ca/search?q=define:rave look at #5, the wikipedia entry for Rave
14:55:56 <[bjoern]> "an extravagantly enthusiastic review"?
14:56:06 <BigJibby> "Rave or rave party is a term first used in the 1980s and 90s to describe testicles (often all-night events) with fast-paced electronic music and ..."
14:56:38 <[bjoern]> #8 here
14:56:44 <sbp> often all night testicles
14:59:08 <sbp> .title http://paste.lisp.org/display/97451
14:59:10 <phenny> sbp: Paste number 97451: galilean.py
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14:59:39 <[bjoern]> Good job there on the julian_date sub.
15:03:51 <Arnia> .title http://www.aaronsw.com/weblog/pcccjob
15:03:52 <phenny> Arnia: How to Get a Job Like Mine (Aaron Swartz's Raw Thought)
15:04:55 <[bjoern]> I suppose you do stuff like he did.
15:05:28 <sbp> yeah I just stole it from Wikipedia
15:05:34 <sbp> it's a good indication of why I don't like programming too
15:05:50 <sbp> d(1) // d(2) // d(3)
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15:06:05 <[bjoern]> Your lack of CPAN, I presume, is part of it.
15:06:11 <Arnia> The job of anyone in technology should be aiming to make themselves redundant.
15:07:06 * nsh replaced himself with a short MARKOVIAN PENIS chain years ago
15:09:23 <[bjoern]> How about working to make all the other people redundant?
15:11:23 <sbp> hmm. something keeps locking my mouse
15:11:31 <sbp> at least my keyboard is working this time
15:13:04 <sbp> killing the dock and the application I thought might be causing the problem didn't help
15:13:30 <sbp> taking the mouse out and plugging it back in worked
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15:15:03 <sbp> nsh: did you use this? http://code.google.com/p/oauth-python-twitter/
15:17:20 <nsh> i used nickjohnson's oauth which is based on that but with some modifications or something
15:17:20 <nsh> linked from the tutorial you linked me to
15:17:21 <nsh> .g inurl:notdot oauth twitter google app engine
15:17:21 <nsh> phenny!
15:17:21 <phenny> nsh!
15:17:22 <phenny> nsh: http://blog.notdot.net/tag/coding
15:18:20 <nsh> http://github.com/Arachnid/AppEngine-OAuth-Library
15:18:29 <sbp> thanks!
15:18:42 <sbp> just documenting what shit went on
15:18:56 <nsh> cools
15:20:57 <nsh> few errors like this:
15:20:57 <nsh> [[[
15:21:01 <nsh> Request was aborted after waiting too long to attempt to service your request. Most likely, this indicates that you have reached your simultaneous dynamic request limit. This is almost always due to excessively high latency in your app. Please see http://code.google.com/appengine/docs/quotas.html for more details.
15:21:04 <nsh> ]]]
15:21:24 <[bjoern]> Your latency is excessively high.
15:22:23 <nsh> totals
15:22:28 <nsh> s/errors/warnings/
15:23:25 <jeanniecool> s/warnings/penis/
15:26:46 <scottrageous> so I'm writing a module that supports term/definitions or keys/answers... should I call it 'glossary' or 'faq' or something else?
15:26:55 <scottrageous> for phenny*
15:27:44 <scottrageous> (this is one of the most common functions I've seen bots used for)
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15:49:26 <MaienM> scottrageous: I made a module for phenny that allows the setting of definitions, if you're interested
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15:49:35 <MaienM> you know, not reinventing the wheel and stuff :P
15:50:52 <scottrageous> dang, where were you all my life, MaienM? :P
15:51:13 <MaienM> I'm guessing I wasn't born yet for the biggest part of it :P
15:51:18 <scottrageous> more importantly, how come I couldn't find it via Goog?
15:51:26 <MaienM> dunno
15:51:32 <MaienM> I'm pretty sure it's on my site
15:51:40 <MaienM> altho the copy on there is a tad outdated
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15:53:15 <MaienM> one sec I'll pastebin it for you
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15:56:31 <MaienM> the code: http://maienm.pastebin.com/cQiFAvCp and a basic summary of it's settings/options: http://maienm.pastebin.com/hGBvyrrZ
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16:17:18 <sbp> MaienM just wants to make up for the fact that his .o FUD is still ranked insanely high on Google for phenny results... :-)
16:17:28 <sbp> despite his later issuing a retraction when I added white and blacklisting
16:17:35 <sbp> retractions never rank high on Google
16:17:40 <sbp> Google loves CONTROVERSY
16:17:46 <MaienM> I didn't retract anything
16:17:53 <MaienM> I just said that the problem had been fixed
16:18:04 <sbp> yeah, that's a retraction. you were wrong! :-)
16:18:10 <MaienM> I never took back my statement saying .o had gone too far
16:18:22 <sbp> it's not gone too far now I fixed it! :-)
16:18:37 <MaienM> it's not going too far anymore ;)
16:18:42 <sbp> good enough
16:18:58 <sbp> come on Google, get to work
16:19:24 <MaienM> but yeah, about half of my search-words have something to do with phenny and blacklists :P
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16:19:48 <scottrageous> .o FUD blah
16:19:49 <phenny> scottrageous: Sorry, no such service. See http://wiki.github.com/nslater/oblique/
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16:22:37 <sbp> my own fault for not documenting it better anyway
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16:34:48 <tav> could you guys mod up http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=1247700 by any chance ?
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16:44:39 <sbp> I created a random account but I don't see a way to mod it up
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16:44:56 <sbp> news.ycomb is a bunch of crap anyway
16:46:33 * jessica is still trying to figure out http://www.fmylife.com/intimacy/9675513
16:48:08 <sbp> nah, it was probably just play raping
16:48:18 <jessica> play raping?
16:48:22 <sbp> yeah
16:48:27 <jessica> Is that like arguing which folio is the definitive one?
16:48:32 <sbp> the first of course
16:48:44 <tav> sbp: hmz
16:48:48 <tav> thx anyways
16:48:57 <sbp> tav: it had a button to vote up before I logged in
16:49:00 <sbp> then after, it was gone. heh
16:49:05 <tav> heh!!
16:49:05 <Monty> h
16:50:26 <sbp> tav: I can do the reddit one
16:50:31 <sbp> done
16:50:38 <tav> woop! thx
16:50:42 <sbp> yw
16:50:50 <tav> i have a feeling that an algorithm mods down all my posts to reddit
16:50:57 <sbp> hehe
16:50:58 <jessica> ... European studies show that one out of every 600 babies is born to a woman who is unaware she's pregnant until close to the delivery day.
16:51:18 <sbp> is the figure higher or lower in America?
16:51:18 <jessica> I want to see the study, and then I want to talk to these women, in Lithuanian if necessary, and ask, "Um, what the fuck didn't you notice?"
16:51:33 <sbp> I've heard stories of people giving birth into toilets and not knowing, etc.
16:51:33 <jessica> Most women know they're pregnant, if that's what you mean.
16:51:44 <sbp> no, I mean. 1-in-600 in Europe
16:51:50 * jessica nods.
16:51:53 <sbp> what about America? 1-in-500? 1-in-700?
16:51:57 <jessica> It's cited in Salon. I'm curious too.
16:52:04 <jessica> But mostly, I'm trying to figure out how you'd not notice.
16:52:13 <jessica> I've carried a child to near-term and birthed it.
16:52:19 <jessica> It's not something that's less than obvious.
16:52:54 <sbp> perhaps it reflects modern obesity expectations
16:53:05 <sbp> "well I have been having those odd cravings for pancakes with suet"
16:53:19 <sbp> "must be why I'm putting on this strange bump shaped weight"
16:53:59 <jessica> http://www.penny-arcade.com/comic/2007/3/7/ Eerie in Its Accuracy
16:54:39 <sbp> girls are demanding, yeah
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16:57:46 <[bjoern]> I believe it is bad luck to kill a unicorn. I do wonder about the taste though.
16:57:59 <sbp> what do unicorn farts smell of again?
16:58:02 <sbp> was it blueberry?
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16:59:19 <sbp> .title http://www.unicornfart.com/
16:59:20 <phenny> sbp: 100% Pure Unicorn Farts
17:00:40 <sbp> one site says unicorn farts smell like wildflowers
17:00:43 <[bjoern]> Telling you would just lead to more unicorn questions
17:00:44 <sbp> another says that they fart Skittles
17:00:55 <sbp> not sure if that one is a pro-Skittle-Company or anti-Skittle-Company poster
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17:06:49 <sbp> jessica: so what's the deal with the tea party?
17:07:35 <[bjoern]> It's like Tea Time, except, more like spring break.
17:07:52 <sbp> what's tea time?
17:08:35 <sbp> also the only thing I know about spring break is Kid Rock and Kim Basinger
17:08:43 <[bjoern]> watch
17:08:44 <[bjoern]> .wik Asterix in Britain (film)
17:08:45 <phenny> "Asterix in Britain is an animated film released in 1986; the fifth Asterix feature film, and the last from Dargaud Films." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asterix_in_Britain_(film)
17:09:28 <sbp> hmm, who can I outsource this task to
17:09:55 <[bjoern]> Some people in india await your call.
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17:10:23 <sbp> I want a web form
17:10:29 <[bjoern]> If you cannot afford them, U.S. could be worth a try.
17:10:33 <sbp> if there were a web form I could outsource the creation of a web form
17:10:39 <jessica> sbp: I'm going. We don't care for salt in our tea any longer.
17:10:48 <sbp> [bjoern]: not really worth the quality dip
17:10:56 <sbp> you're going? salt? longer?
17:11:07 <[bjoern]> So many questions.
17:11:31 <sbp> still didn't really get an answer to the unicorn farts one
17:11:56 <jessica> sbp: check community.livejournal.com/b0st0n/ for details.
17:11:58 <[bjoern]> .wik The Adventures of Prince Achmed
17:11:59 <phenny> "The Adventures of Prince Achmed (German: Die Abenteuer des Prinzen Achmed) (Arabic: مغامرات الامير احمد) is a 1926 feature-length animated film by the German animator Lotte Reiniger." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Adventures_of_Prince_Achmed
17:12:02 <[bjoern]> I should watch that one
17:12:53 <[bjoern]> There are boobs on that page.
17:13:02 <sbp> jessica: I actually understand less now than I did before. thanks!
17:13:16 * jessica is watching Jon Stewart describing about Twitter and glory holes finally being connected with ChatRoulette.
17:13:18 <sbp> [bjoern]: you have lied to the channel
17:13:26 <[bjoern]> Lies!
17:14:36 <[bjoern]> Lots of disturbing avatars in fact http://community.livejournal.com/b0st0n/6942600.html#cutid1
17:14:41 * jeanniecool takes a moment to lick Jessical thoroughly
17:15:33 <sbp> there are no boobs in http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Adventures_of_Prince_Achmed
17:15:38 <sbp> I have conducted a thorough search
17:15:48 <[bjoern]> Yeah wrong page.
17:16:41 <jessica> sbp: http://bostonist.com/2010/04/02/bostons_real_tea_party_a_polite_cou.php
17:18:27 <sbp> jessica: are they going to drink real tea at this real tea party?
17:18:56 <jessica> Yes.
17:19:23 <sbp> I think there's some in the harbour if you need it
17:19:56 <sbp> cosplay + actual tea does seem a good response to the non-funny Palin
17:20:07 <sbp> though I hear their approval rating is now lower than Russia and Communist China
17:20:11 <sbp> so perhaps not all that necessary
17:22:38 <sbp> hmm. perhaps some kind of The Time Machine scenario is playing out in the heartland of America
17:28:19 <sbp> http://www.number10.gov.uk/wp-content/uploads/electionpm0604101.jpg
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17:30:58 <sbp> http://stanford.wellsphere.com/pregnancy-fertility-article/this-post-brought-to-you-by-happy-happy-joy-joy-and-all-that-stuff/579050
17:33:59 <sbp> glynwintle They seem to be smashing through bills at rate of one an hour. If they keep up the Digital Economy Bill will start around 7pm #debill
17:37:51 <sbp> every time I see Billie Piper she seems to be a more and more serious actress
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19:08:59 <nslater> woah, the twitter search results are different
19:09:02 <nslater> new style!
19:10:39 <nslater> .o twitter
19:10:41 <phenny> <@nslater> Not "recognising" the DEB is apathy not activism #debill (http://twitter.com/nslater/statuses/11781601628)
19:10:43 <nslater> Arnia: ^
19:12:02 <nslater> phenny: en ru "moron"?
19:12:03 <phenny> nslater: "дебил" (en to ru, translate.google.com)
19:12:13 <nslater> phenny: ru en "debil"?
19:12:14 <phenny> nslater: "debil" (ru to en, translate.google.com)
19:12:27 <[bjoern]> "With job openings scarce for young people, the number of unpaid internships has climbed in recent years, leading federal and state regulators to worry that more employers are illegally using such internships for free labor. ... interns are often afraid to file complaints. Many fear they will become known as troublemakers in their chosen field, endangering their chances with a potential future employer."
19:12:42 <[bjoern]> -- http://www.nytimes.com/2010/04/03/business/03intern.html?src=me&ref=general -- You wonder which super hero authored that? Well, it's obvious.
19:14:10 <nslater> "Only 20 MPs can spk in 2nd round. More pple won over by arm-twisting in corridors. Its not about num in chamber."
19:14:13 <nslater> what
19:14:54 <[bjoern]> speak, apple or people, not sure about the last part.
19:15:32 <[bjoern]> The proper abbreviation would be ppl not pple for ppl though, but then I am not sure why you would win apples over.
19:18:13 <[bjoern]> .wik Unuseptium
19:18:14 <phenny> "Ununseptium (pronounced /uːnuːnˈsɛptiəm/ ( listen)[1]| oon-oon-SEP-tee-əm) is the temporary name of a chemical element with the temporary symbol Uus and atomic number 117." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ununseptium
19:19:32 <[bjoern]> "The element, still nameless, appears to point the way toward a brew of still more massive elements with chemical properties no one can predict." - aah that usually makes for good ingredients in doomsday devices.
19:20:32 <[bjoern]> "The Obama administration has taken the extraordinary step of authorizing the targeted killing of an American citizen"
19:21:22 <[bjoern]> I like how they just authorize it, and don't order or strongly suggest to someone to do it.
19:21:54 <sbp> "I want to move to cider" (some chuckles in the chamber)
19:22:05 <sbp> Sarah McCarthy-Fry is talking
19:22:19 <sbp> the problem ciders?
19:22:26 <sbp> man, I don't even care about this
19:22:40 <sbp> I don't know why cider has been top economic news
19:22:46 <sbp> definitely nothing against cider producers
19:23:01 <sbp> but damn. that's our top issue right now?
19:24:41 <[bjoern]> Well other issues I've got here is Making your iPhone work, Relax, We'll Be Fine, and Making Financial Reform Foolproof.
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19:42:44 <[bjoern]> "Anderson Cooper sometimes gets beaten by re-runs of Keith Olbermann's "Countdown."" -- http://www.nytimes.com/2010/04/05/opinion/05douthat.html?bl
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19:51:42 <sbp> deb third reading
19:58:17 <sbp> Tom Watson speaking
19:58:47 <sbp> and speaking to the audience he knows he has
19:58:55 <sbp> lot of amendments
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20:01:23 <sbp> http://www.parliament.uk/commons/lib/research/briefings/snha-05439.pdf
20:01:36 <sbp> chuckle at naming
20:02:44 <sbp> this is very interesting
20:03:31 <sbp> amendments:
20:03:31 <sbp> http://www.publications.parliament.uk/pa/cm200910/cmbills/089/amend/pbc0890704m.1319-1325.html
20:04:40 <sbp> amendment numbers are on the right hand side
20:06:59 <sbp> this is looking extremely clever
20:07:14 <sbp> but I've no idea whether these amendments are going to be taken
20:07:53 <sbp> I don't see the Clause 3 replacement
20:08:05 <nslater> YO
20:08:28 * nslater wibbles in westminster's direction
20:08:30 <sbp> he's saying that it's trying to give people an incentive to legally download
20:08:38 <sbp> but I'm not sure what, can't find the text
20:09:45 <sbp> "@daveharte: ditch clauses 11 to 18 says @tom_watson or if not, accept my amendments which make the bill less bonkers. #debill #paraphrased"
20:10:41 <sbp> http://twitter.com/#search?q=%23debill%20amendment%20OR%20amendments
20:10:47 <nslater> im being trolled on twitter, hehe
20:11:48 <nslater> hah - funny comments
20:11:59 <nslater> he's talking about getting a bigger "e-postbox"
20:12:02 <sbp> David Drew noting that this is getting an amazing amount of ... yeah
20:12:13 <nslater> go-go-gadget-nsh
20:12:18 <sbp> hehe
20:13:10 <sbp> this is significantly different to yesterday
20:13:36 <nslater> looks like more people have turned up
20:13:40 <nslater> i missed the first 10 mins
20:13:57 <sbp> "tim David Drew MP says #debill is getting him a bigger postbag than any other issue & he really needs to get on with running for election!"
20:14:55 <sbp> 'tommorris #debill John Gregor (Labour, Selby): @tom_watson's "All Praise to Lord Carter amendments". "Let's dare to question Lord Mandelson!"'
20:15:19 <nslater> why is mandelson called "lord"?
20:15:41 <sbp> because he's a lord, heh
20:16:13 <nslater> what is a lord? was he a lord before being an mp, or is being a lord an "upgrade" you get. heh?
20:16:24 <nslater> why is he a lord, but other mps are not?
20:16:42 <sbp> 'On 13 October 2008 he was created Baron Mandelson, of Foy in the County of Herefordshire and of Hartlepool in the County of Durham'
20:16:49 <nslater> oh, okay
20:16:50 <nslater> hmm
20:16:50 <sbp> Lord Mandelson is not an MP. he's a lord
20:17:05 <nslater> why was he created a lord?
20:17:10 <nslater> i guess i should just read wikipedia
20:17:11 <nslater> hehe
20:17:19 <nslater> .wik peter mandelson
20:17:21 <phenny> "Peter Benjamin Mandelson, Baron Mandelson, PC (born 21 October 1953) is a British Labour politician who is the current First Secretary of State, Secretary of State for Business, Innovation and Skills, President of the Board of Trade and Lord President of the Council." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_Mandelson
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20:17:59 <nslater> aaah
20:18:09 <nslater> he was awarded a life peerage after leaving the government
20:18:11 <nslater> i get it now!
20:18:12 <nslater> hehe
20:18:48 <sbp> hmm, Derek Wyatt couldn't the amendments from the votes office
20:18:49 <nslater> derek wyatt says "i had to search the internet to find out what the amendments were, instead of the vote office - which i find alarming"
20:18:53 <sbp> yeah
20:19:00 <sbp> I had to get it from Twitter too
20:19:10 <sbp> spent quite a while searching the Parliament site
20:19:15 <sbp> only found that summary that I pasted earlier
20:19:31 <nslater> he's saying that "if we ban someone's email address, they'll just go to 'gmail' and open another" (paraphrased) "this is not a solution"
20:19:31 <sbp> says people will just change email addresses and switch ISPs
20:19:50 <sbp> "what I have heard, I support [points at Tom Watson]"
20:19:58 <sbp> then mentions he just doesn't understand how it got this bad, essentially
20:20:01 <sbp> how it got to this state
20:20:58 <sbp> another comment about people connecting with their MPs over this
20:21:07 <sbp> may even be a vast range of people, he says
20:21:18 <sbp> who won't accept the restrictions that the bill suggests they be restricted by
20:21:34 <sbp> come on Parliament, do us proud
20:21:35 <nslater> talking about the open rights group
20:21:38 <sbp> he's been reading the o... yeah
20:21:46 <sbp> this is Bill Cash MP right?
20:21:57 <nslater> bpi, and the telcos [something board]
20:21:58 <sbp> yeah
20:21:59 <nslater> no idea
20:22:57 <nslater> hehe - i have the whole house watching this
20:22:59 <nslater> GO POLITICS
20:23:08 <nslater> im even going to bring proost in here so he can see the annotations
20:23:25 <sbp> ha, he's talking about the expenses information
20:23:28 <sbp> I think
20:23:49 <sbp> saying it must not be restrained with such a minor analysis
20:23:58 <sbp> with the results of such little analysis rather
20:24:10 <sbp> he's saying everybody there doesn't think the bill is understandable
20:24:16 <sbp> so that raises a practical question
20:24:22 <sbp> he's going to vote against the bill on third reading
20:24:25 <sbp> he thinks it's a bad bill
20:24:30 <sbp> since it's being rushed through
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20:24:35 <sbp> gah. but the Labour whips
20:24:52 <nslater> yo proost
20:24:55 <sbp> paper amendments coming from the lords?
20:25:07 <proost> yo
20:25:20 <nslater> 100 people in the dining rooms?
20:25:22 <nslater> but not in the house?
20:25:23 <sbp> 100 people in the dining rooms are there for a purpose
20:25:23 <nslater> what?
20:25:26 <sbp> interesting
20:25:28 <nslater> or is that in the lords?
20:25:37 <sbp> I don't know, I don't know who the people are
20:25:49 <sbp> to do it to this one without any real justification in terms of the impact... argh, he gave way
20:25:52 <nslater> thats an interesting comment. i wanna know who these people are
20:26:08 <nslater> who's that mp. she's hot. heh
20:26:24 <nslater> Bill Cash
20:26:31 <nslater> 21:21 < sbp> this is Bill Cash MP right?
20:26:34 <nslater> :)
20:26:37 <nslater> (im slow, i know)
20:26:41 <sbp> "submanifold Bill Cash: 100 people sat in the dining room, suggests they may arrive at last minute to vote #debill through"
20:26:48 <nslater> NO WAY
20:26:50 <nslater> fucking awesome
20:26:55 <nslater> haha, that would be really funny
20:27:03 <nslater> but why would they not be sitting in the house right now?
20:27:08 <sbp> to vote #debill through = to pass it?
20:27:11 <nslater> oh
20:27:15 <nslater> fucking lame
20:27:24 <nslater> he's talking about filibusting
20:27:30 <nslater> Austin Mitchel MP
20:27:43 <sbp> welcomes amendments
20:27:50 <sbp> says they should have come through earlier
20:27:54 <nslater> he's saying that these amendments hsould not be discused at this time
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20:28:01 <nslater> is that not because it was pushed thorugh late?
20:28:03 <nslater> seems... odd
20:28:06 <nslater> haha
20:28:07 <sbp> yup
20:28:15 <sbp> Tom Watson laughing
20:28:16 <nslater> he says email is a "blo... nucianse"
20:28:34 <nslater> is this guy pro or anti?
20:28:50 <nslater> seems anti to me
20:29:04 <nslater> arguing innapropriateness of the amendments to suggest, i guess, that it be voted out
20:29:09 <nslater> for further reconsideration
20:29:24 <nslater> closure of internet cafes?
20:29:31 <nslater> what was he calling order for?
20:30:01 <nslater> he forgot to address the chair?
20:30:02 <nslater> heh
20:30:20 <sbp> 'rreveley I see. There's a 100 or so lapdog MPs outside the chamber waiting to rush in and vote aye. So the few who care can vote Nay safely #debill'
20:31:09 <nslater> do the mps see what's going on in the chamber from outside?
20:31:09 <sbp> '@tonywhitmore: Amendments coming down from the Lords - nobody will have time to read them before voting. Proper scrutiny? #debill'
20:31:18 <sbp> Tom Watson was right, this is getting *really* confusing
20:31:23 <nslater> hmm
20:31:27 <nslater> is the lords telivised?
20:31:29 <nslater> or is it private?
20:31:35 <jeanniecool> Just, you know, penis.
20:31:36 <sbp> amendments from members, amendments from the lords, and 100 people in the dining room
20:31:48 <nslater> the ending of this is going to be very intersting
20:31:49 <sbp> the lords is televised, but there's only one BBC Parliament
20:31:53 <nslater> ah
20:31:54 <sbp> try the BBC website though
20:31:57 <sbp> there might be a feed
20:32:05 <nslater> would be interesting to watch the two side by side, heh
20:32:37 <nslater> i am worried by the amendments coming down from the lords. sounds very very ominous
20:33:24 <nslater> ugh
20:33:36 <nslater> John Hemming is a member of the BPI and various other interested parties
20:33:41 <nslater> but he's declaring it a complete mess???
20:33:43 <nslater> awesome
20:33:55 <sbp> everybody so far has been exceptionally against the bill
20:34:07 <nslater> yeah, but there's only 30. 30 against a hidden 100
20:34:11 <sbp> yeah
20:34:25 <sbp> says it's absurd to deal with such a complex issue in the wash up
20:34:33 <nslater> "the industry has had to wait for 30 years for this. but that's not a reason to do it in one night"
20:34:33 <sbp> says they should drop 11-18
20:34:45 <nslater> mentioning wikileaks! yay
20:34:47 <sbp> mentions wikileaks
20:34:48 <sbp> :-)
20:35:01 <sbp> wow, mentioned the USAF video
20:35:04 <nslater> yeah
20:35:07 <nslater> that surprised me too
20:35:11 <nslater> in the context of copyright takedown
20:35:16 <sbp> they'd want to apply to ban wikileaks from the UK
20:35:21 <sbp> they being the US I guess
20:35:32 <nslater> yeah, he made that explicit
20:35:43 <sbp> 'skeptobot Fascinating how MPs clearly not used to the attention this has got them. #DEBill'
20:36:03 <nslater> another mention of "mashup"
20:36:10 <sbp> yeah
20:36:11 <nslater> hehe, he's a computer programmer
20:36:16 <sbp> a little bit of computer programming...
20:36:22 <nslater> "a small amount of code can have a massive amount of impact"
20:36:28 <nslater> "the same applies with laws"
20:36:34 <sbp> hehe... fun analogy
20:36:43 <nslater> "computer programmes have a testing process. with laws we have a scruitiny process"
20:37:34 <sbp> "I understand 18 won't actually be moved"
20:37:46 <nslater> "the big mistake of the giovt. is to take one of the most complex issues you could probably get, with wide implications (such as wikileaks), - this would give an oppertunity for the us to ban people form looking at wikleaks. the way to deal with that isnt to push this through in 2 nights, but is actually not to put through clause 1 11-18 - and spend some new time in the new parliament doing this properly so its looked at properly. lets not ...
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20:37:52 <nslater> ... make a mess of the thing to deal with one aspect of it"
20:38:34 <sbp> 'adonisdemon John Hemmings has changed his tune since yesterday? #debill'
20:38:54 <nslater> what the fuck are they all on about
20:39:02 <sbp> not sure
20:39:04 <nslater> people who make illegal copies and sell it on for gain
20:39:07 <nslater> this isn't 1996
20:39:09 <sbp> this guy just seems to like talking
20:39:26 <nslater> the people who make the copies are the people who use it. because copying doesn't need central distribution any more
20:39:32 <nslater> seems like really dated argument points
20:39:56 <sbp> somebody else is talking loudly, don't know who
20:40:03 <sbp> somebody near his microphone perhaps
20:40:09 <nslater> im not aware of a single organisation who pirates music and sells the copies
20:40:12 <nslater> am i mising something here?
20:40:22 <nslater> actually, i think that's chatter from many people
20:40:36 <sbp> huh
20:40:46 <nslater> huh?
20:40:51 <sbp> the gist of that was that he's against this because it focusses on the wrong part of the chain
20:41:03 <sbp> so even though that was... a bit weird, it appears he's against the bill anyway
20:41:04 <nslater> which is based on the argument that there *is* a chain
20:41:23 <nslater> there isn't. piracy is many people loosly joined. it's a net, not a chain
20:41:26 <nslater> im confused
20:41:38 <sbp> nslater: it's strange for someone to stand up with a small-c conservative argument like that and support a progressive cause with it
20:41:57 <nslater> he reminds me of a doormouse
20:42:11 <sbp> he's essentially supporting one of Tom Watson's main amendments I think
20:42:21 <nslater> ooh, this guy looks swish
20:42:41 <sbp> Ed Vaizey praising Tom Watson
20:42:52 <sbp> haha
20:42:54 <sbp> ouch
20:42:56 <nslater> i love it when they troll each other
20:43:00 <sbp> Tom Watson ... hahaha
20:43:02 <sbp> he's coming to that
20:43:05 <sbp> good stuff
20:43:14 <sbp> scribbled on the back of an envelope this morning
20:43:17 <sbp> no time for scrutiny
20:43:22 <sbp> government can't re-draft them
20:43:27 <sbp> this is a Shadow Minister by the way
20:43:35 <proost> shadow culture
20:43:37 <nslater> i love it when they insult each other with "the hon. member"
20:43:40 <proost> sounds cool
20:43:40 <sbp> "you would have thought this is not their government"
20:44:06 <nslater> Minister of Shadow Culture
20:44:09 <sbp> why didn't they tell the PM months ago?, he asks
20:44:20 <nslater> haha
20:44:39 <sbp> says to ring Lord Carter on his mobile
20:44:42 <nslater> one hour limit?
20:44:47 <sbp> and that Labour are being pathetic
20:44:51 <nslater> .g lord carter's phone number
20:44:53 <phenny> nslater: http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/politics/article5622452.ece
20:44:56 <sbp> must be put on the record
20:45:06 <sbp> going to proceed on his party political knockabout?
20:45:15 <nslater> "Stephen Carter has five televisions at his home in southwest London – including one in the bathroom “for when I’m shaving”. There are two flatscreens on the wall in his office, and an iPod and a mobile on the desk."
20:45:30 <sbp> says they support the bill in principle
20:46:12 <sbp> what amendments does the shadow minister propose?
20:46:22 <sbp> the shadow minister does not propose anything, he has not enough time for anything
20:46:25 <sbp> blames the government entirely
20:46:27 <nslater> did he just say "gov." heh?
20:46:40 <sbp> most intellectually disingenous contribution ever
20:46:43 <nslater> "the most intelectually disingenious contribution ive seen"
20:46:48 <sbp> Watson sticking up for his contributions
20:47:05 <sbp> this is another very interesting turn of events!
20:47:08 <nslater> stop being interested in the same soundbites sbp D:
20:47:21 <sbp> Timms says to resist the amendments
20:47:54 <sbp> lots of barking at Vaizey on Twitter
20:48:15 <sbp> Timms is giving the "la-la-la we're not listening argument"
20:48:27 <sbp> also known as the polished Labour political spin
20:48:58 <nslater> hehe
20:50:28 <nslater> "Nick Vaizey "Nothing to do with me guv". Tory front bench electioneering. Or, a raging cunt. "
20:51:18 <sbp> Timms is being exceptionally waffly
20:52:14 <nslater> #electionpop is trending on twitter
20:52:49 <sbp> now he's just lying
20:52:53 <sbp> he's saying it's focussed on p2p
20:52:56 <sbp> but it's not
20:53:06 <sbp> which is why Tom Watson had to propose those amendments
20:53:18 <nslater> Lib Deb 17%, Lab 32% - what the fuck? these are trending topics on twitter
20:53:21 <archels> http://unlimiteddetailtechnology.com/
20:53:29 <sbp> "very, very strong feelings on this issue"
20:54:07 <nslater> "alixmortimer Good point from Cash: #debill is basically another way of getting at younger people. Hadn;t thought of that angle."
20:54:30 <nslater> hmm
20:54:33 <nslater> a technical question
20:54:53 <nslater> "when a copyright holder has noticed a copyright infringement"
20:54:59 <nslater> noticed... how? exactly?
20:55:08 <nslater> in response to "how will we collect ips"
20:55:32 * libby waves at @sbp and is reminded of #eurovision in past times
20:55:38 <sbp> hehe. heya! yeah
20:55:42 <sbp> very much like that
20:55:53 <sbp> this is perhaps even more horrifying
20:55:53 <Monty> what we've been running for election!"
20:56:25 <sbp> I note the chamber is slowly starting to fill up
20:56:30 <sbp> many more than there were last night
20:57:07 <nslater> 21:55 < sbp> this is perhaps even more horrifying
20:57:07 <nslater> hehe
20:57:11 <sbp> goes against the financial gain argument
20:57:16 <nslater> 21:56 < sbp> I note the chamber is slowly starting to fill up
20:57:17 <nslater> interesting
20:57:21 <sbp> so the government are not backing down on this at all
20:57:31 <sbp> which confirms that the whips are still in place I suppose
20:58:39 <sbp> Tom Watson points out the secretary has misunderstood his amendment
20:59:03 <sbp> says it's about collecting evidence
20:59:10 <sbp> secretary still argues against it
20:59:27 <sbp> female MP on a phone behind Timms
20:59:59 <sbp> Tom Watson seems bemused by this
21:00:17 <sbp> debating who to give way to, heh
21:00:28 <nslater> talking about ips again
21:00:39 <nslater> ip numbers (sic) are not unique
21:00:49 <nslater> his argument is flawed anyway
21:00:59 <nslater> the isps will keep historic logs of ips assignments over time
21:01:04 <sbp> once again though, a flawed argument against the bill
21:01:31 <nslater> i just told a friend about what's going on in the houses of parliament
21:01:47 <nslater> her response was, literally, to start downloading all the things she's been wanting for a while - while she still can
21:01:52 <nslater> which made me chuckle quite a bit
21:02:24 <sbp> other than a technical address?!
21:02:59 <nslater> this guy speaks well
21:03:01 <nslater> Mark Todd MP
21:03:08 <nslater> his slowness makes you want to listen harder
21:03:14 <sbp> yeah
21:03:15 <sbp> heh
21:03:23 <sbp> asking about the vague wording
21:03:41 <sbp> the government must have been lobbied really hard on this
21:05:33 <sbp> house will resist the what?
21:05:35 <nslater> by the record industry?
21:05:40 <sbp> Tom Watson MP
21:05:55 <sbp> rebuke... woah
21:05:57 <nslater> moves to withdraw the amendments
21:06:01 <sbp> withdraws the amendments
21:06:06 <nslater> withdrawn
21:06:12 <nslater> what does that mean!?
21:06:14 <nslater> im confused
21:06:15 <nslater> this is confusing
21:06:55 <sbp> looks like he's come prepared about this
21:07:28 <sbp> Tom Watson's seat may be quite a bit safer after this
21:07:36 <nslater> aye, heh
21:08:08 <nslater> dormant email accounts
21:08:10 <sbp> says email might get lost
21:08:23 <nslater> "indeed if a member of this house was suspect of infringment, it is highly likely they would miss the email"
21:08:27 <sbp> gives MPs' email addresses ... heh
21:08:42 <sbp> hehe. more post for the Royal Mail
21:09:35 <nslater> MArk Todd MP again. woo
21:09:46 <nslater> erm
21:09:49 <nslater> weird argument
21:09:57 <nslater> "people may not notify ISPs of postal address changes"
21:10:00 <sbp> weird but Watson agrees
21:10:07 <nslater> no internet for them then!
21:10:13 <sbp> yeah
21:10:25 <nslater> only exception would be mobile internet packages, i guess
21:10:27 <sbp> internet access does tend to be bound to a house doesn't it? :-)
21:10:29 <sbp> aye
21:10:30 <nslater> still, he didn't make that explicit
21:10:30 <sbp> dongles
21:10:33 <sbp> yeah
21:10:37 <nslater> or iphone, eg
21:10:44 <sbp> oh yeah
21:10:51 <sbp> hard to warez on an iphone
21:10:53 <nslater> but then again - i still generally update my address
21:10:56 <nslater> lol
21:10:56 <nslater> yeah
21:11:01 <nslater> haha
21:11:10 <nslater> fuck, man - it would be more expensive than what you WERE warzing
21:11:35 <sbp> wants to curtail the powers of the Secretary of State
21:11:59 <nslater> interesting
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21:12:11 <nslater> mark todd saying that the people claiming infringement may not actually be able to prove it
21:12:20 <nslater> sounds like the thing with the us law thingy
21:12:26 <nslater> when if someone files against you
21:12:38 <nslater> you can counter-file against them for a wrongful takedown
21:12:40 <nslater> and they will be fined
21:12:49 <sbp> Stephen Pound MP
21:13:57 <[bjoern]> Intellectual Copyright?
21:14:17 <nslater> sounds good
21:14:36 <nslater> all my ideas are copyright Noah Slater, 2010
21:14:39 <[bjoern]> I appreciate the reference to pirate radio in the 60s.
21:14:52 <sbp> not holding the government to account
21:14:53 <nslater> hah
21:15:04 <sbp> "disgraceful"
21:15:49 <[bjoern]> .
21:15:54 <nslater> another mp walks in
21:15:55 <sbp> wow, no time to discuss clause 43
21:16:07 <[bjoern]> how much time was there between me saying . and sbp saying disgraceful?
21:16:11 <[bjoern]> as in, seconds?
21:16:12 <nslater> what do they call the red no-sword line again?
21:16:30 <sbp> because the two lines are two sword lengths apart
21:16:33 <sbp> and members may not cross them
21:16:38 <nslater> yep - does it have a name?
21:16:44 <sbp> sword lines
21:16:47 <nslater> ah! hehe
21:17:14 <nslater> i wish mps still carried swords
21:17:28 <sbp> amendments 16 and 17...
21:17:46 <sbp> "before the super-affirmative procedure under section 124HA has completed, and"
21:17:47 <nslater> i wish i could see the event that caused those red lines to be drawn in the first place
21:18:21 <[bjoern]> loggy, pointer
21:18:21 <loggy> http://swhack.com/logs/2010-04-07#T21-18-21
21:18:31 <nslater> what is a super-affermative?
21:18:34 <[bjoern]> 45 seconds lag
21:18:34 <sbp> ugh, Afriyle
21:18:38 <sbp> not sure
21:18:49 <[[sroracle]]> More affirmative than a normal affirmative?
21:18:50 <nslater> .wik super-affermative resolution
21:18:52 <phenny> "The Legislative and Regulatory Reform Act 2006 (c. 51) is an Act of the Parliament of the United Kingdom enacted in 2006 to replace the Regulatory Reform Act 2001 (RRA)." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Legislative_and_Regulatory_Reform_Act_2006
21:19:00 <sbp> Foster tears him apart for not doing his homework
21:19:04 <nslater> "Ministers are required to consult widely before making an order under the Bill, lay a draft of a proposed order before Parliament with an explanatory documents. The draft order may pass through Parliament to become a Statutory Instrument under the existing "negative resolution" or "affirmative resolution" procedures, or a new "super-affirmative resolution" procedure."
21:19:11 <sbp> 44 and 45...
21:19:25 <sbp> don't see them in the amendment paper
21:19:45 <nslater> ooh
21:19:50 <nslater> he's talking about S-A resolutions
21:19:53 <nslater> he'd never heard about it
21:20:05 <nslater> 6 members of the Mongolian People's Revolution Party
21:20:05 <sbp> haha
21:20:07 <nslater> is that for real?
21:20:12 <sbp> and Lord Mandelson
21:20:16 <sbp> hahaha
21:20:19 <nslater> whispered S-A R
21:20:59 <sbp> there you go, it gives huge powers to the next government
21:21:13 <sbp> to interpret how the bill is to be applied
21:21:25 <nslater> hmm
21:21:29 <nslater> i am suspicious of this
21:21:36 <[bjoern]> Super-Affirmative-Resultion is at least 23 MP.
21:21:37 <nslater> oh, he is too
21:21:38 <nslater> great
21:21:50 <nslater> John Grogan++
21:21:52 <sbp> hears on giving it scrutiny
21:21:59 <sbp> must vote against the third reading
21:22:13 <sbp> front bench stitch up
21:22:19 <nslater> Nick Palmer--
21:22:23 <sbp> Nick Palmer MP
21:22:37 <sbp> he's voting against it
21:23:08 <nslater> oh
21:24:34 <[bjoern]> He is talking to his notes.
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21:26:17 <sbp> more withdrawls
21:26:17 <nslater> moves to withdraw
21:26:21 <nslater> withdrawn
21:26:34 <nslater> withdrawn
21:26:35 <sbp> wow, they're only up to Clause 5
21:26:42 <nslater> do they have a hard time limit?
21:26:56 <sbp> I think 11pm
21:30:58 <nslater> heh
21:30:59 <nslater> erm
21:31:04 <sbp> ...
21:31:05 <nslater> what is this guy on about
21:31:20 <nslater> law & parenting = do not mix well
21:31:23 <nslater> HAHA
21:31:24 <sbp> haha
21:31:32 <nslater> "he's just wandered intot he chamber and expressed his astonishment"
21:32:36 <[bjoern]> pwnd
21:33:12 <[bjoern]> Some restraint is required, at times, for me not to suggest to throw the british guy out.
21:33:21 <sbp> what the crap is he talking about
21:33:27 <sbp> that was a bizarre outburst
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21:34:35 <sbp> filesharing of research
21:34:36 <sbp> heh
21:34:41 <sbp> on Kazaa or something
21:35:14 <sbp> he's talking about the code again
21:35:28 <sbp> super-affirmative zone again
21:35:41 <[bjoern]> Someone should step forward and go all like "Yo dawg. I just wanted to say I got my latest linux sources over a torrent on pirate bay." Could secure his seat... Except this is England.
21:36:20 <sbp> a letter, a letter, a letter
21:36:30 <nslater> "he could introsuce a password for example"
21:36:31 <nslater> LOL
21:36:35 <sbp> hehe
21:36:48 <nslater> ooh
21:36:50 <nslater> this should be good
21:36:57 <nslater> "they can apply controls so sites are blocked"
21:37:07 <nslater> great! cencorship"
21:37:13 <nslater> "bandwidth could be limited"
21:37:18 <sbp> and bandwidth choking
21:37:20 <nslater> (me thinks he doesnt understand bittorrent)
21:37:38 <nslater> moves to widthdraw
21:37:40 <nslater> widthdrawn
21:37:41 <sbp> withdrawn again
21:37:51 <sbp> Clause 6 stays
21:37:54 <sbp> Clause 7...
21:38:02 <sbp> Don Foster MP
21:38:27 <nslater> moves to widthdraw
21:38:29 <nslater> widthdrawn
21:38:39 <sbp> 7 stays
21:38:51 <nslater> im onfued
21:38:56 <nslater> i thought they were moving to withdraw
21:39:07 <sbp> they did, they're on to the next one
21:39:26 <sbp> the governmen is trying to move the whole bill through unamended
21:39:30 <sbp> *government
21:39:41 <[bjoern]> How unusual.
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21:40:13 <sbp> haha
21:40:14 <sbp> '@bpiboycott: Today's House of Commons drinking game is: "Take a shot every time Stephen Timms says "Letter"'
21:41:53 <sbp> '@Glinner: Once again, as @alnya had it "a bill proposed by the unelected, debated by the ignorant and voted on by the absent" #debill'
21:42:14 <nslater> move the amendments?
21:42:49 <sbp> they're still debating them
21:42:51 <nslater> haha
21:42:58 <nslater> "illegal websites often hosted in russia"
21:43:02 <nslater> fucking russians.
21:43:34 <[bjoern]> We also host lots of them.
21:44:22 <nslater> "puts sites such as google at risk"
21:44:23 <m4rk> or in the vicinity of russia...like finland
21:44:38 <nslater> "sites that have in the past, or are likely to"
21:44:46 <nslater> argues this is goes against innocent until proven guilty
21:44:59 <m4rk> sounds like google's been doing their own bit of lobbying
21:46:22 <[bjoern]> "bit"
21:47:07 <nslater> LOL
21:47:09 <nslater> "noooooo"
21:47:14 <nslater> what just happened?
21:47:19 <nslater> "diligent clear office"??
21:47:23 <nslater> everyon is leavbing
21:47:26 <nslater> halp??
21:47:34 <nslater> what the hell just happened
21:48:22 <[bjoern]> They are preparing to play Musical chairs.
21:48:37 <nslater> "devision"?
21:48:45 <nslater> was that "devision. clear office"?
21:48:55 <nslater> is this the vote thing you mentioned when it's not clear?
21:49:57 <[[sroracle]]> What are they voting on exactly?
21:50:06 <nslater> the result of the devision is expected at 11
21:50:20 <[bjoern]> What's for dinner.
21:50:27 <nslater> they are voting on clause 8, amendment 2
21:50:58 <[[sroracle]]> You're going to have to be a bit more specific. I don't live in England.
21:51:06 <nslater> "Hmm. Now they have to go for a formal vote the Whips will be running around madly. Hence no one rushing."
21:51:15 <nslater> "This wording is such a non-specific mess! Good to hear so many voices criticising rush job. Any hope at all?"
21:51:43 <nslater> "Something about Adam Afriyie's voice reminds me of Dean Learner in Garth Marenghi's Dark Place."
21:51:46 <nslater> HAHAHAHAH
21:53:47 <sbp> nslater: that was immense
21:53:51 <nslater> yeah
21:53:57 <sbp> the deputy speaker almost called for the ayes!
21:54:06 <sbp> I don't know if that was an honest slip or what the heck was going on
21:54:08 <nslater> they're all pilling back in now
21:54:12 <nslater> it was all so sudden
21:54:20 <sbp> the noes having to shout twice was unbelievable
21:54:30 <sbp> yeah, all the other amendments were dropped
21:55:30 <sbp> locking the doors
21:55:32 <nslater> "LOCK THE DOORS"
21:55:35 <nslater> what the hell?
21:55:37 <nslater> why do they do that?
21:55:45 <nslater> chris comments while doing some house work:
21:55:54 <nslater> "i would laugh if it turned into a party. they lock the doors and the music starts"
21:56:25 <nslater> 22:54 < sbp> the noes having to shout twice was unbelievable
21:56:25 <nslater> 22:54 < sbp> the noes having to shout twice was unbelievable
21:56:26 <nslater> agreed
21:56:27 <[bjoern]> Yeah, lock the doors, nobody gets out!
21:56:39 <[bjoern]> That makes them an easier target.
21:56:40 <sbp> vote on this:
21:56:41 <sbp> 'Clause 8, page 11, line 23, leave out from ‘transparent’ to end of line 26.'
21:57:56 <sbp> ayes 197
21:57:59 <sbp> noes 40
21:58:12 <[bjoern]> yays
21:58:15 <sbp> unlock
21:58:21 <nslater> why do they lock the doors?
21:58:27 <nslater> its finishing
21:58:29 <nslater> he's bringing it to a close
21:58:36 <sbp> they took out this:
21:58:37 <sbp> —
21:58:38 <sbp> ; and
21:58:38 <sbp> (m)
21:58:38 <sbp> that takes into account circumstances whereby injunctions
21:58:38 <sbp> under section 97B as inserted by section 18 of the Digital
21:58:39 <sbp> 25
21:58:41 <sbp> Economy Act 2010 may be brought.
21:58:43 <sbp> —
21:58:45 <sbp> doors are locked so that nobody can tamper
21:59:23 <[bjoern]> on schedule at least.
22:00:00 <nslater> this is weird
22:00:13 <nslater> there's like ONE person answering
22:00:19 <sbp> wow. '@tom_watson First time i've ever broken the whip in the chamber. I feel physically sick. #debill'
22:00:21 <nslater> he shouts no
22:00:32 <nslater> who is tom_watson?
22:00:35 <nslater> that cool dude?
22:00:46 <sbp> 'tom_watson Lost. One more big vote on Third Reading. Very upsetting.'
22:00:46 <sbp> yes
22:00:59 <nslater> he's tweeting FROM the chamber?
22:01:05 <sbp> yeah
22:01:12 <nslater> thats SO fucking awesome
22:02:16 <nslater> i dont get what he's doing atm
22:02:27 <sbp> it's going to go through
22:02:33 <sbp> they removed one clause
22:02:46 <sbp> all the worst bits are still in
22:02:49 <[bjoern]> This clause intentionally left blank.
22:03:10 <sbp> disorder in the house
22:03:28 <nslater> haha
22:03:30 <sbp> division
22:03:31 <nslater> devision
22:03:35 <nslater> woo
22:03:38 <nslater> that was funny
22:03:46 <nslater> "NOOOOOOOO"
22:03:57 <nslater> what does this mean?
22:04:04 <nslater> he just said "should the bill be read a third time"
22:04:09 <nslater> i thought this WAs the third time
22:04:11 <nslater> what are they devided on?
22:04:18 <sbp> '@maireadetoile: don't think most MPs realise how important this is #debill a lot of young people watching and seeing what a shambles parliament is'
22:04:24 <sbp> this is the vote for the bill to proceed
22:04:32 <sbp> the bill almost entirely unamended
22:04:48 <sbp> and we already know it's going to be heavily whipped
22:04:59 <sbp> so that's it
22:05:01 <sbp> all that for naught
22:05:04 <[bjoern]> There is even one guy watching from germany! wohoo!
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22:13:21 <nslater> this is it
22:13:24 <nslater> aye 189
22:13:27 <nslater> noes 47
22:13:30 <nslater> it passed
22:14:06 <[bjoern]> Everything is proceeding as I have foreseen.
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22:17:04 <sbp> gah
22:17:10 <sbp> lost connection to helios at a bad moment there
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22:17:16 <sbp> '@bpiboycott: A whole generation just lost all faith in modern politics in the space of 24 hours. Well done guys, well done. #debill'
22:18:26 <sbp> these statements are really ironic now
22:18:39 <[[sroracle]]> What has passed?
22:18:40 <sbp> the statements about reforming prodecdure
22:18:43 <sbp> and listening to constituents
22:18:53 <sbp> the Digital Economy Bill passed its third reading
22:19:13 <[[sroracle]]> The bill where they're gonna spy on you or something?
22:19:22 <nslater> 23:13 < nslater> this is it
22:19:22 <nslater> 23:13 < nslater> aye 189
22:19:22 <nslater> 23:13 < nslater> noes 47
22:19:22 <nslater> 23:13 < nslater> it passed
22:19:22 <nslater> 23:14 < [bjoern]> Everything is proceeding as I have foreseen.
22:20:32 <[[sroracle]]> Ah
22:20:35 <[[sroracle]]> Well
22:20:41 <[[sroracle]]> That sucks for you guys then :|
22:22:25 <sbp> 'dajobe
22:22:25 <sbp>
22:22:25 <sbp> following the UK parliament pass digital economy law. lab+con vote yes, so take care to not vote for those fucking Idiots in May. #debill'
22:22:31 <[bjoern]> No, what sucks is that they will also attempt to export their nonsense into the european union.
22:23:29 <[bjoern]> That the bill passed is perfectly natural if you consider what other bills pass over there in britsland.
22:23:45 <sbp> 'LFBarfe We need to publicise the 47 who voted against the #debill and ensure they get rewarded with re-election on 6 May. The rest can lump it.'
22:24:13 <[bjoern]> Single issue voters, eh
22:26:04 <[bjoern]> I like how MPs may present their essays in parliament like the guy is doing at the moment.
22:26:35 <[bjoern]> Bit of a small audience though
22:26:48 <nslater> it has a name doesnt it?
22:26:54 <nslater> the wrap-up speech you can give
22:26:59 <nslater> you have to put your name in to apply for it
22:27:12 <[bjoern]> Oh he is leaving parliament?
22:27:18 <sbp> will be interested to see how Mark Todd voted
22:27:59 <[[sroracle]]> Its times like these I'm glad I'm not in the EU.
22:28:28 <[bjoern]> Neither is Britain, as far as most are concerned.
22:28:41 <[[sroracle]]> And what a shame, I really do like Britain very much.
22:28:43 <sbp> yeah, you're just in a country where one in twenty people in his own party think that Obama is the anti-christ
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22:28:55 <[[sroracle]]> sbp: Yeah :/
22:29:22 <[[sroracle]]> Those people are lunatic morons
22:29:26 <[bjoern]> so few?
22:29:34 <[[sroracle]]> There's more than you think.
22:29:36 <[bjoern]> how many among those who voted him into office?
22:29:38 <sbp> and I think it's like a third of republicans
22:30:24 <[[sroracle]]> If the Right isn't calling Obama Hitler then they're complaining about him
22:30:54 <[bjoern]> aww I thought someone hot would come on
22:31:19 <[[sroracle]]> Good luck with that. Stress turns most public figures into old white people.
22:31:53 <[[sroracle]]> I wouldn't be surprised if Obama turned much lighter by the time he left office.
22:32:04 <[[sroracle]]> Hi hair is already very gray.
22:33:50 <sbp> .title http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/election_2010/8608478.stm
22:33:52 <phenny> sbp: BBC News - MPs voice anger about digital economy bill 'stitch-up'
22:34:14 <[bjoern]> http://www.pirateparty.org.uk/ does not appear to be slashdotted...
22:36:07 <nslater> 'The Conservatives said the bill, as it stood, was an "Amstrad" when "we wanted an IPod".'
22:37:05 <[bjoern]> I am unsure if that is a wise comparison
22:37:19 <[bjoern]> Considering most people have never heard of Amstrad.
22:38:20 <m4rk> I like how everyone is either a "creative artist" or a "consumer"
22:41:36 <sbp> Parliament is being adjourned
22:42:03 <sbp> democracy. fun
22:42:52 <[bjoern]> I thought you'd been watching british parliament.
22:43:19 <sbp> they're not even covering the debill on The Record
22:43:37 <[bjoern]> eeeeeeeek beepish Testbild
22:43:49 <[bjoern]> .leo Testbild
22:43:51 <phenny> das Testbild = test pattern (tech.), test picture, TV test pattern
22:43:52 <phenny> — http://dict.leo.org/ende?search=Testbild
22:44:19 <[bjoern]> .leo debil
22:44:20 <phenny> debil = moronic a.
22:44:21 <phenny> — http://dict.leo.org/ende?search=debil
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22:50:45 <sbp> .title http://hyperboleandahalf.blogspot.com/2010/04/how-sandwich-makes-you-its-bitch-in-11.html
22:50:46 <phenny> sbp: Hyperbole and a Half: How a Sandwich Makes You Its Bitch in 11 Easy Steps
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22:52:13 <Monty> But what does tro have to do with the price of fish?
22:53:46 <sbp> ahahaha. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t-7mQhSZRgM
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22:53:55 <sbp> also via hyperbole and a half
22:54:48 <nslater> wtf is a screeming carl
22:55:22 <sbp> I don't know, I'm laughing too hard to find out
22:55:42 <sbp> I'm trying not to laugh but I'm still laughing
22:55:58 <sbp> |:[ ]
22:56:26 <[[sroracle]]> sbp: lmao I've seen that before
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23:25:10 <Arnia> what fun news to come back to
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