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04:39:30 <[bjoern]> .gs global warming is *
04:39:30 <phenny> global warming is *: a (4), real (3), happening (3), crap (3), “exaggerated (2)
04:39:40 <[bjoern]> .gs global warming is a *
04:39:41 <phenny> global warming is a *: hoax (17), myth (7), farce (5), scam (3), crock (3), threat (2)
04:45:49 <[bjoern]> .gc +liberalese
04:45:49 <phenny> +liberalese: 1,670
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05:35:42 <Monty> But what does jeffarch have to do with the price of fish?
05:35:42 <Monty> hi deltab
05:35:42 <Monty> welcome, thelsdj
05:35:44 <Monty> yo nslater!
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05:37:43 <Monty> hi lisppaste2
05:37:45 <Monty> bah, it's nogagplz again
05:37:46 <Monty> howdy, p6eval
05:37:48 <Monty> bah, it's scottrageous again
05:37:50 <Monty> lo jsled
05:38:07 * nogagplz sells Monty on ebay
05:38:07 <Monty> "There are dealing with one main target was talking about. what i was terrible rear axle for each database and without all middleware, simplify your faith, don't much goes out its packed with big benefit from that, there such package for collective nouns, you'll find when dinosaurs had
05:41:20 <scottrageous> gotta love netsplits
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06:54:17 <Monty> welcome, nogagplz
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14:59:32 <Monty> hi sivy
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15:15:44 <[bjoern]> Monty.
15:15:47 <Monty> CouchDB land, you had a k/v store yesteryda was such as empty
15:20:03 <[bjoern]> .title http://www.popsci.com/science/article/2010-04/taser-shocks-meth-intoxicated-sheep-dont-harm-heart-taser-study-says
15:20:04 <phenny> [bjoern]: In Safety Study, Sheep on Meth Are Shocked With Tasers | Popular Science
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15:33:49 <hannes__> The Men Who Shoot At Sheeps
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15:53:26 <BigJibby> .gs do men *
15:53:27 <phenny> do men *: cheat (9), envy (6), compete (6), really think (5), prefer (5)
15:53:55 <BigJibby> .gs do men like *
15:53:55 <phenny> do men like *: (8), to (4), boobs (4), bitches (4), women (3), wide hips (2)
15:54:35 <BigJibby> .gs do men have *
15:54:36 <phenny> do men have *: nipples (28), emotions (5), sex (4), erections (4), commitment (4)
15:54:59 <BigJibby> .gs do men use *
15:55:00 <phenny> do men use *: skincare (5), viagra (4), prostitutes (4), them (3), noxzema (3)
15:55:24 <BigJibby> .gs do men prefer *
15:55:24 <phenny> do men prefer *: (15), women (7), blondes (6), skinny (5), them (4)
15:55:44 <BigJibby> .gs does Monty like *
15:55:45 <phenny> does Monty like *: it (4), to (3), this (2), the (2), (2)
15:55:46 <Monty> http://seqram.livejournal.com/
15:55:47 <Monty> sensations is Python and ergonomic!
15:56:14 <BigJibby> .gs do women *
15:56:15 <phenny> do women *: want (8), lack (5), wear (4), fare (4), earn (4), write (3)
15:56:25 <BigJibby> .gs do women like *
15:56:26 <phenny> do women like *: (8), beetles (7), beards (5), cads (4), virgins (3), men (3)
15:56:48 <BigJibby> .gs do women have *
15:56:49 <phenny> do women have *: abortions (7), longer durations (4), impaired (4)
15:57:21 <danbri> .gs do we *
15:57:22 <phenny> do we *: lyrics (5), throw (4), recycle (4), detect (4), allow (4), teach (3)
15:57:26 <BigJibby> .gs do women use *
15:57:27 <phenny> do women use *: dietary supplements (4), tanning (3), fertility (3)
15:57:34 <danbri> .gs do we allow *
15:57:35 <phenny> do we allow *: ourselves (4), comments that are (3), so much poverty (2)
15:58:00 <BigJibby> .gs do women prefer *
15:58:00 <phenny> do women prefer *: (11), female obstetricians (5), circumcised (4), women's (3)
15:58:40 <BigJibby> .gs how many danbri *
15:58:40 <phenny> BigJibby: no results
15:58:55 <BigJibby> .gs danbri *
15:58:56 <phenny> danbri *: org (6), tech llc (4), 's (3), (3), textorized (2), tech (2)
15:59:10 <BigJibby> .title danbri.org
15:59:13 <phenny> BigJibby: Dan Brickley
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16:02:08 <BigJibby> danbri.org is slow
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16:02:49 <BigJibby> .gs kpreid *
16:02:49 <phenny> kpreid *: (17), said (3), livejournal (3), @… added (3), @attglobal (3)
16:03:08 <BigJibby> .gs kpreid said *
16:03:09 <phenny> kpreid said *: (7)
16:03:47 <BigJibby> .gs [bjoern] said *
16:03:48 <phenny> BigJibby: no results
16:04:01 <BigJibby> .gs clsn said *
16:04:02 <phenny> clsn said *: (2)
16:04:17 <BigJibby> nobody ever says anything in here
16:04:36 <BigJibby> .gs Arnia said *
16:04:36 <phenny> Arnia said *: (3), with (2), the (2), that (2), on (2)
16:05:06 <BigJibby> .gs Arnia said on *
16:05:06 <phenny> Arnia said on *: 9, 8)
16:05:21 <BigJibby> .gs Arnia said with *
16:05:22 <phenny> Arnia said with *: a (2)
16:05:26 <BigJibby> .gs Arnia said with a *
16:05:27 <phenny> Arnia said with a *: smile, small)
16:05:42 <BigJibby> .gs Arnia said with a small *
16:05:43 <phenny> Arnia said with a small *: sigh)
16:05:57 <BigJibby> .gs Arnia said the *
16:05:57 <phenny> Arnia said the *: puppy, other, c++)
16:06:02 <BigJibby> .gs Arnia said the puppy *
16:06:03 <phenny> Arnia said the puppy *: was)
16:06:22 <BigJibby> .gs Arnia said the puppy was *
16:06:22 <phenny> BigJibby: extremely)
16:06:31 <BigJibby> .gs Arnia said the puppy was extremely *
16:06:32 <phenny> BigJibby: glad)
16:06:36 <BigJibby> .gs Arnia said the puppy was extremely glad *
16:06:36 <phenny> BigJibby: to)
16:06:39 <BigJibby> .gs Arnia said the puppy was extremely glad to *
16:06:39 <phenny> BigJibby: see)
16:06:43 <BigJibby> .gs Arnia said the puppy was extremely glad to see *
16:06:43 <phenny> BigJibby: them)
16:06:43 <Monty> WTF is pretty nice. It's six of first time exposures of what not necessarily, or on live debugging rewrite Lucene query parameters. Is there no no dl'ble apps thing. heh sorry, that's strange one phone call, so they resolve in rings, living from experience.
16:06:50 <BigJibby> .gs Arnia said the puppy was extremely glad to see them *
16:06:51 <phenny> BigJibby: when)
16:06:54 <BigJibby> .gs Arnia said the puppy was extremely glad to see them when *
16:06:54 <phenny> BigJibby: they)
16:06:57 <BigJibby> .gs Arnia said the puppy was extremely glad to see them when they *
16:06:58 <phenny> BigJibby: went)
16:07:00 <BigJibby> .gs Arnia said the puppy was extremely glad to see them when they went *
16:07:01 <phenny> BigJibby: to)
16:07:04 <BigJibby> .gs Arnia said the puppy was extremely glad to see them when they went to *
16:07:05 <phenny> BigJibby: fetch)
16:07:08 <BigJibby> .gs Arnia said the puppy was extremely glad to see them when they went to fetch *
16:07:09 <phenny> BigJibby: her)
16:07:12 <BigJibby> .gs Arnia said the puppy was extremely glad to see them when they went to fetch her *
16:07:13 <phenny> BigJibby: )
16:07:13 <Monty> brb
16:07:18 <BigJibby> .gs Arnia said the puppy was extremely glad to see them when they went to fetch her ) *
16:07:18 <phenny> BigJibby: no results
16:07:46 <BigJibby> I have concluded that Arnia said the puppy was extremely glad to see them when they went to fetch her
16:09:36 <BigJibby> ,g Arnia said the puppy was extremely glad to see them when they went to fetch her
16:09:49 <BigJibby> .g Arnia said the puppy was extremely glad to see them when they went to fetch her
16:09:50 <phenny> BigJibby: http://cslewis.drzeus.net/papers/narnia.html
16:11:37 <BigJibby> .gs sbp said *
16:11:38 <phenny> sbp said *: (19), the (6), … (3), that (3), the decision (2), inflationary (2)
16:11:47 <BigJibby> .gs sbp said that *
16:11:48 <phenny> sbp said that *: recovering (3), during (3), with global economic (2), there (2)
16:11:53 <BigJibby> .gs sbp said that during *
16:11:54 <phenny> sbp said that during *: the (4)
16:11:57 <BigJibby> .gs sbp said that during the *
16:11:58 <phenny> BigJibby: previous financial year, agriculture, period, meeting, last month (de)
16:12:10 <BigJibby> .gs sbp said that during the previous financial year *
16:12:11 <phenny> BigJibby: no results
16:12:16 <BigJibby> .gs sbp said that during the previous financial year *
16:12:16 <phenny> BigJibby: agriculture)
16:12:25 <BigJibby> .gs sbp said that during the previous financial year agriculture *
16:12:26 <phenny> BigJibby: no results
16:12:30 <BigJibby> .gs sbp said that during the previous financial year agriculture *
16:12:31 <phenny> BigJibby: no results
16:12:39 <BigJibby> .gs sbp said that during the previous financial year agriculture *
16:12:39 <phenny> BigJibby: no results
16:12:56 <BigJibby> gs is weird
16:13:47 <BigJibby> .gs Call me Ishmael *
16:13:48 <phenny> Call me Ishmael *: (6), | (4), religious naming (4), lyrics (4), - yas (4), said (3)
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17:03:44 <jessica> Arnia, I think I have found a language that even you have no hope of ever learning to speak. ;)
17:04:01 <Arnia> sounds like a challenge...
17:04:23 <jessica> http://www.cracked.com/blog/learn-your-motherfuckin-science-with-the-icp
17:04:54 <jessica> "Did you know that you guys have like six different words for 'clown pussy' but none for 'electricity'?"
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17:06:05 <Arnia> ah, thought it would be something fun along the lines of Warlpiri
17:07:45 <jessica> Still, a language with six synonyms for "clown pussy" but no word for "electricity" has to be an interesting culture.
17:07:51 <jessica> If a bit horror-novelish.
17:08:27 <Arnia> Didn't Steven King retire to such a community?
17:10:03 <jessica> Maybe Steven King and David Lynch's bastard love child might *found* such a community.
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17:14:00 <Arnia> ooh, that would be a creepy family
17:14:13 <Arnia> Would James Spader be the godfather?
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17:17:19 <jessica> Maybe. Gary Oldman would have to be in it too.
17:18:17 <Arnia> He's the local vicar
17:19:25 <jessica> "You've each been selected for this mission, as you are unknown to the enemy and you each have a special skill. Professor Hawking, John Lesley, Phil Neville, The Wu-Tang Clan, Usher, The Sugar Puffs Monster and Daniel Day-Lewis. Welcome to Operation Mind-fuck!"
17:20:03 <Arnia> John Lesley hands?
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17:20:48 <jessica> I don't know, ask Frankie Boyle, it's his idea.
17:20:53 <jsled> reminds me of http://www.comicsalliance.com/2010/04/01/top-shelf-announces-league-of-extraordinary-gentlemen-1988/
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19:24:27 <Monty> Thank goodness, KragenSitaker is back!
19:24:37 <KragenSitaker> Aw, thanks, Monty.
19:24:42 <Monty> Cool - http://svn.apache.org/viewvc?view=rev&revision=933039
19:24:42 * KragenSitaker hugs Monty.
19:24:44 <Monty> unable to deploy on simple portmanteau
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19:43:39 <KragenSitaker> man, fucking Savoir-Faire
19:46:41 <KragenSitaker> I'm trying to figure out how to find scans of Italian incunabula in Antiqua
19:47:05 <KragenSitaker> s/la/lae/
19:47:08 <KragenSitaker> I found some nice scans of facsimiles of English incunabulae
19:47:20 <KragenSitaker> but of course they're in blackletter, not Antiqua
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20:06:53 <jeanniecool> penis, penis, penis, pe-nis!
20:06:57 * jeanniecool dances a conga line
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20:17:43 <Arnia> jeanniecool: My mother has some foam bananas, apparently
20:17:51 <Arnia> (just got a text to that effect)
20:18:04 <jeanniecool> ...
20:18:22 * jeanniecool isn't sure he has a response to that
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20:28:51 <Arnia> actually, the entire text was "I've got some foam bananas!"
20:30:05 <Arnia> no context, no other texts today. Just that
20:43:08 <jeanniecool> LOL, Arnia.
20:43:23 <jeanniecool> that's delightfully random.
20:43:35 * jeanniecool will be back after reboot
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20:45:49 <BigJibby> phenny ask jeanniecool what is hydrairc like? any good?
20:46:14 <BigJibby> phenny, well? you want more colon?
20:46:19 <BigJibby> phenny, ask jeanniecool what is hydrairc like? any good?
20:46:19 <phenny> BigJibby: I'll pass that on when jeanniecool is around.
20:46:40 <BigJibby> thanks you phenny
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20:55:43 <phenny> jeanniecool: 20:46Z <BigJibby> ask jeanniecool what is hydrairc like? any good?
20:55:56 <jeanniecool> BigJibby, sure.
20:56:08 <jeanniecool> Though it sucks at the unicode thing.
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22:32:56 <[bjoern]> yo KragenSitaker
22:33:34 <KragenSitaker> hi [bjoern]
22:33:36 <KragenSitaker> how are you?
22:34:03 <[bjoern]> More terrible than usual. And weather's gotten cold again.
22:34:09 <[bjoern]> Also hungry.
22:34:14 <KragenSitaker> apparently s/incunabula/incunabulum/g; s/incunabulae/incunabula/g
22:34:20 <[bjoern]> You?
22:34:24 <KragenSitaker> Aw, sorry to hear it. What's terrible?
22:34:29 <KragenSitaker> Weather is getting cold here too, thank goodness
22:34:47 <[bjoern]> We should swap the weather than perhaps.
22:34:59 <[bjoern]> It'll be 0°C in five hours or so here.
22:38:37 <KragenSitaker> that sounds fabulous
22:39:09 <[bjoern]> Indeed, especially after half a year of weather like that.
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22:40:58 <Arnia> Manchester is just wet
22:41:11 <Arnia> we almost had a sunny day... then it got wet again
22:41:14 <Arnia> wet wet wet
22:41:22 * Arnia feels it in his fingers
22:41:53 <[bjoern]> Well wet and warm I can manage.
22:42:27 <Arnia> ew
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22:43:20 <sbp> Arnia: ha
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22:44:26 <[bjoern]> yo sbp
22:45:39 <jeanniecool> Arnia, [bjoern]: Y'all just sounded dirty.
22:45:54 * jeanniecool hopes SeanB is getting ready for bed, and offers to help him if he isn't
22:46:08 <sbp> yo!
22:46:42 <sbp> Google Groups sure are slow tonight
22:47:43 <sbp> .title http://www.disobey.com/node/1866
22:47:43 <phenny> sbp: I HAZ TEH HOBBIES? | disobey.com
22:48:47 <[bjoern]> I also advise against searching souls.
22:48:59 <[bjoern]> You sometimes find them, and that gets all creepy usually.
22:49:15 <[bjoern]> Sounding dirty, yes, that's one of my professions.
22:49:45 <[bjoern]> Besides, what's the alternative? "You sound so clean!" sounds dirty to me.
22:53:09 <Arnia> sbp: http://gizmodo.com/5516182/dslr-concept-redesign-makes-more-room-for-your-face
22:55:53 <jsled> http://www.coroflot.com/public/individual_file.asp?individual_id=295296&portfolio_id=2962899&
22:56:12 <Arnia> Oh this is good: http://tv.gawker.com/5516162/visionary-eric-leebow-thinks-he-invented-the-social-network
22:56:12 * jeanniecool licks joshled
22:56:23 <jsled> That's a good idea. But how do you select the 3 images that least point out the idea that's in the title of your post. :p
22:56:27 * Arnia hands jeanniecool a bucket of salt
22:56:39 * jeanniecool gets the tequila
22:56:42 <jeanniecool> Body shots!
22:57:00 * Arnia buries jeanniecool in Cheshire
22:57:18 <Arnia> (contrary to popular belief, the population is all cats)
22:57:19 <jeanniecool> ...cat?
22:57:28 <Arnia> .wik Cheshire salt mine
22:57:29 <phenny> "Cheshire is a county in North West England." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Salt_in_Cheshire
22:57:44 <Arnia> I'd say 'west midlands' personally
22:57:46 <Arnia> but hey
22:57:50 <Arnia> .wik Derbyshire
22:57:51 <phenny> "Derbyshire (pronounced /ˈdɑrbɪʃər/ ( listen) DAR-bi-shər or /ˈdɑrbɪʃɪər/ DAR-bi-sheer) is a county in the East Midlands of England." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Derbyshire
22:59:02 <sbp> Arnia: that DSLR looks like it would be difficult to track on radar
22:59:16 <Arnia> sbp: stealth paparazzi!
22:59:39 <Arnia> like ninjas, only with an alarming tendency to talk about focal and barrel lengths
22:59:47 <sbp> I also like the "Concept Umbrella Plays Music for Some Reason" story in the sidebar
23:02:25 <[bjoern]> Don't do alcoholics.
23:03:25 <Arnia> I generally don't
23:03:36 <[bjoern]> "Will Twitter Ads Tweak Tweeters?"
23:03:50 <[bjoern]> "Twitter Buys Tweetie"
23:03:53 <Arnia> Is that a headline or a tongue twister?
23:04:00 <[bjoern]> headline
23:04:12 <sbp> headtwister
23:04:16 <[bjoern]> "Will Twitter Twist the Timeline?"
23:04:50 <[bjoern]> "Twitter disapproves of Heidi Montag's 'new' body"
23:05:25 <deltab> "The button aims to protect children"
23:05:49 <[bjoern]> Help, help, Google Ui changed
23:05:57 <Arnia> Twitter Twins 'Twixt Two Twinkling Twats
23:06:15 <Arnia> My Google UI keeps changing forward and back again
23:06:19 <Arnia> it is getting disorienting
23:07:12 <[bjoern]> 'Michelle "Bombshell" McGee apologizes to Sandra Bullock: Twitter doesn't buy it' - http://www.examiner.com/x-24390-Twitter-Entertainment-Examiner~y2010m4d13-Michelle-Bombshell-McGee-apologizes-to-Sandra-Bullock
23:07:19 <[bjoern]> the picture isn't the worst though
23:08:12 <clsn> Huh. Actually profoundish comment to the eric leebow story: His seemingly duplicitous and inept pitch is clearly embarrassing, but he has gone further with his idea than most capable people with legitimate ideas. That says something.
23:10:02 <sbp> [bjoern], clsn: http://groups.google.com/group/whits/t/61edcd18e03e1e26
23:10:33 <[bjoern]> This better not be some longish ramblings of yours.
23:11:08 <[bjoern]> I hear with a stereoscope you can see twice as much.
23:11:41 <[bjoern]> I am unsure about this image http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Early_bird_stereograph2.jpg
23:12:12 <Arnia> clsn: it depresses me actually
23:14:26 <[bjoern]> So http://www.dailystab.com/michelle-bombshell-mcgee-nazi-photos/ is what I get when using the "page images" google thingy
23:15:00 <clsn> Oh, the statement it makes about capable people and legitimate ideas is not encouraging. It is, however, true.
23:15:16 <Arnia> Oh, I agree
23:15:24 * Arnia explodes in despair
23:15:43 <Arnia> sbp: will you pay me to typeset your etymothesaurus?
23:15:50 <sbp> heh
23:16:12 <sbp> if I had money to pay you, I'd probably employ you on sorting out all my frigging notes
23:16:24 <Arnia> I feel I need to make a substantial contribution to the world that isn't anything to do with MediaWiki or Plone
23:16:38 <Arnia> If I died now, that would be my monument.
23:16:43 <Arnia> That makes me even more depressed
23:17:16 <sbp> that and, you know, all the tonnes of cognitive science you've been doing for years...
23:17:40 <Arnia> so, 1 dissertation, 12 papers and half a thesis... great
23:17:52 <[bjoern]> Hire me to do it! I'm cheap!
23:17:57 <sbp> more papers than me
23:18:14 <sbp> [bjoern]: you'd want me to pay you in food
23:18:17 <sbp> it's all mine
23:18:30 <sbp> d8uv was eating a double down a while ago
23:18:32 <Arnia> sbp: I still don't think it will get me remembered
23:19:05 <Arnia> I need an amanuensis
23:19:12 <[bjoern]> Well warmth and food do go a long way with me.
23:20:04 <sbp> Arnia: http://www.disobey.com/node/1580
23:20:12 <[bjoern]> .title
23:20:12 <phenny> [bjoern]: With Great Sadness... | disobey.com
23:20:18 <sbp> [bjoern]: would you ever burn food?
23:20:23 <sbp> to keep warm I mean
23:20:28 <clsn> sbp: nice astronomy post. Particularly interesting for me since I do ZERO amateur astronomy beyond being the guy in the group who usually knows the most constellations. Someday I should try checking out a telescope.
23:20:37 <sbp> not as some kind of psycho culinary gastrosperiment
23:20:48 <jeanniecool> Arnia, you can't afford me.
23:21:01 <sbp> clsn: shame you couldn't be there to direct me to Bode's Galaxy
23:21:17 <sbp> was a bit baffled at how difficult that was to find
23:21:21 <sbp> I had no problems through binoculars
23:21:30 <clsn> Arnia, sbp: yeah, believe me, my despair at my own lack of worldshaking accomplishments is crushing. And I think I'm older than you.
23:21:44 <[bjoern]> Well starving and freezing are among my least favourite ways to die
23:21:59 * sbp used to have that problem too, and then started working on one
23:22:01 <clsn> Wouldn't help; I don't know where it is. The "group" in question is an average one, not a group of astronomers. And most people know maybe two constellations.
23:22:05 <sbp> that's the only way to fix it... :-)
23:22:11 <sbp> that or take copious amounts of drugs perhaps
23:22:16 <clsn> Yeah, sounds so easy...
23:22:35 <Arnia> Well, I have another couple of business ideas to try and knock up plans for
23:22:49 <sbp> [bjoern]: so if someone starved you of ice cubes... no wait
23:22:50 <Arnia> ah well
23:23:20 <sbp> doesn't really matter, Karamazov worry and all that
23:23:38 <sbp> being a better person is much more worthwhile and a bugger to achieve
23:23:39 <[bjoern]> I actually tried making ice cubes this weekend. I failed.
23:24:00 <sbp> like, how the heck do you become a better person without effort
23:24:05 <sbp> there's got to be a trick to it somewhere
23:24:26 <sbp> [bjoern]: what happened? full science report
23:24:49 <[bjoern]> Well there are some people in history who'd have become better people by just stopping everything they were doing.
23:25:27 <sbp> yeah, but those are the ones who were least likely to understand that
23:25:33 <[bjoern]> Well I put water in the ice cub plastic bag thing and put that into the Eiswürfelfach. Then waited a couple of days until i gave up an hour ago.
23:25:55 <[bjoern]> Well that's not necessarily true.
23:25:55 <sbp> perhaps it was warmer in the Eiswürfelfach than it was outside the Eiswürfelfach
23:26:10 <[bjoern]> We don't know much about the people who stopped being bad people, usually.
23:26:33 <[bjoern]> Well outside the Eiswürfelfach is my fridge.
23:26:38 <sbp> trüdat
23:26:41 <sbp> also, where's my thorn
23:26:43 <sbp> þ
23:26:50 <sbp> trüþat
23:27:20 <sbp> fellfach would make a good Welsh word
23:27:27 <[bjoern]> .leo fell
23:27:28 <sbp> phenny: cy en "fell"?
23:27:28 <phenny> sbp: "William Booth" (cy to en, translate.google.com)
23:27:29 <[bjoern]> .leo Fach
23:27:29 <phenny> coat   - of animal = das Fell
23:27:30 <phenny> fur = das Fell
23:27:31 <phenny> hide = das Fell
23:27:31 <phenny> — http://dict.leo.org/ende?search=fell
23:27:33 <phenny> das Fach = box  - pl. boxes, business, case, compartment, cubicle
23:27:33 <phenny> Fach... = professional  a., technical  a.
23:27:34 <phenny> four-point tunnel gate (tech.) = 4-fach-Tunnelanguss
23:27:35 <phenny> — http://dict.leo.org/ende?search=Fach
23:27:37 <sbp> ...what!
23:27:56 <[bjoern]> fur compartment.
23:27:59 <sbp> cy -> en fell = William Booth? how does that work then?
23:28:08 <sbp> phenny: cy "fell"?
23:28:09 <phenny> sbp: "William Booth" (cy to en, translate.google.com)
23:28:12 <sbp> crazy
23:28:17 <[bjoern]> "What was most surprising is that I could see Saturn's moons." is no euphemism for your neighbour's boobies, right?
23:28:41 <sbp> correct
23:28:53 <[bjoern]> Oh I have an idea why I might have thought that now, lingering memories of Sailor Moon
23:28:54 <clsn> sbp: felly is Welsh for something like "thus"
23:29:02 <[bjoern]> .wik Sailor Saturn
23:29:02 <phenny> "Sailor Saturn (セーラーサターン, Sērā Satān|?|) is one of the central characters in the Sailor Moon metaseries." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sailor_Saturn
23:29:04 <sbp> yeah, or so
23:29:07 <sbp> but fell?
23:29:24 <clsn> yeah, not sure. f is a rare initial except for mutations and frozen mutations.
23:29:32 <[bjoern]> Well I guess it could be a google bomb kind of issue
23:29:36 <sbp> and William Booth? wtf?
23:29:43 <sbp> qmebz
23:30:18 <clsn> .wik William Booth
23:30:19 <phenny> "William Booth (10 April 1829 – 20 August 1912) was a British Methodist preacher who founded the Salvation Army and became its first General (1878–1912)." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Booth
23:30:33 <clsn> Not really much enlightening...
23:30:38 <[bjoern]> They should re-run the 1990s.
23:30:39 <sbp> .cy fell
23:30:41 <phenny> No result. (BBC)
23:30:41 <phenny> No result. (Geiriadur)
23:30:57 <sbp> [bjoern]: did you see Atheist Barbie?
23:31:49 <sbp> http://www.boingboing.net/201004091022.jpg
23:32:03 <sbp> "No pants to be ready for surprise orgies"
23:33:11 <[bjoern]> http://twitpic.com/qipp2/full is pretty evil too
23:33:22 <[bjoern]> Barbie is a bit overloaded there
23:33:51 <sbp> she might have counterweights in her feet
23:34:06 <[bjoern]> It's probably Gravity
23:34:23 <sbp> it's just a myth, try explaining it with quantum theory
23:34:25 <[bjoern]> Or should could have an anti-gravity device in her ... well pick something
23:34:46 <sbp> no the anti-gravity device was in the pants she is now not wearing
23:35:13 <clsn> Ooh, I like http://twitpic.com/qipp2/full , it looks really full-on blasphemous.
23:35:52 <sbp> I think he meant evil because it makes him hungry
23:36:31 <clsn> Maybe that too.
23:36:34 <[bjoern]> I do wonder if I surprise orgies are a given if I chose to become an atheist.
23:36:41 <sbp> question: did transubstantiation happen at the first eucharist?
23:36:48 <sbp> the one where Jesus was with them and alive in body
23:36:52 <clsn> [bjoern]: Certainly would be a selling point.
23:37:04 <clsn> Come to think of it, there have been religions that DID use that as a selling point.
23:37:04 <sbp> because that's also the one where he says the bread is his body
23:37:34 <[bjoern]> Yes, sbp.
23:37:38 <clsn> Hm. So it sounds like he is definitely saying it's happening then (if anything, what's less clear is that it happens at later ones)
23:38:08 <Arnia> physicalism...
23:38:23 * Arnia nukes the dualists-in-denial with a giant stork
23:38:37 <clsn> I mean plenty of past, old-fashioned ones.
23:38:42 <[bjoern]> Could you do a three month trial of atheism? Without Zeus or the Agnostics or whoever you normally worship becoming mad at you?
23:38:43 <sbp> well, he also said to beware the yeast of the pharisees
23:38:53 <sbp> and the disciples were all "eh? bread? we don't even have any"
23:39:26 <sbp> wait, do agnostics worship other agnostics?
23:39:26 <clsn> Yeah, my teacher I think referred to that example... "will you fucking THINK instead of just listening??" (my wording)
23:40:25 <[bjoern]> hmm hmm http://www.alittleleaven.com/2007/06/move_over_barbi.html
23:40:32 * Arnia throws the lemegeton at clsn
23:40:48 <sbp> that's what inspired the boingboing atheist barbie, yeah
23:40:53 <[bjoern]> sbp, at least they shouldn't care not to.
23:41:01 * clsn sings "Hey, there, Clergy Girl..."
23:41:06 <sbp> well, or something like them
23:41:06 <clsn> .wik Georgie Girl
23:41:08 <phenny> "Georgy Girl is a 1966 British film based on a novel by Margaret Forster." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Georgie_Girl
23:41:14 <clsn> (well, I was thinking of the song)
23:41:17 <sbp> flying through the sky so fancy free
23:41:28 <clsn> .wik lemegeton
23:41:29 <phenny> "The Lesser Key of Solomon or Clavicula Salomonis (the Clavis Salomonis, or Key of Solomon is an earlier book on the subject), is an anonymous 17th-century grimoire, and one of the most popular books of demonology." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lemegeton
23:41:36 <Arnia> http://www.esotericarchives.com/solomon/lemegeton.htm
23:41:47 <[bjoern]> Ah yes more context http://www.blaghag.com/2010/04/atheist-barbie.html
23:41:55 <sbp> reminds me, I need to track down a copy of Psellus
23:42:00 * clsn gotcher *greater* key right here. Or something.
23:42:32 <sbp> her profile photo doesn't show her without pants
23:42:32 <[bjoern]> I do like the first two better, in a way.
23:42:44 <Arnia> clsn: http://www.boudicca.de/solomon-e.htm
23:42:49 <sbp> better hair
23:42:51 <Arnia> That's the greater key
23:43:15 <clsn> I assumed there was one.
23:43:19 <sbp> wet storks today. http://wp1007209.wp014.webpack.hosteurope.de/pfalzstorch/tagesarchiv_bornheim1/tag/0702.jpg
23:43:37 <clsn> Oof, that lesser key page with the sigils... The ONE that we really DO know for sure how to spell in Hebrew, they spelled wrong.
23:43:55 <sbp> also, I am totally out of here
23:44:01 <sbp> phenny: en eo "good night"?
23:44:01 <phenny> sbp: The en to eo translation failed, sorry!
23:44:01 <[bjoern]> night
23:44:10 <sbp> 'night en Esperanto!
23:44:13 <clsn> It *only* makes sense to spell Baal as בעל; it means "Master", a classic name for a deity.
23:44:19 <clsn> Bonan nokton.
23:44:50 <[bjoern]> You mean Ba'al.
23:45:21 <clsn> (oh geez, I saw the absolute WORST thing on a yarmulke over Passover at my brother's synagogue. Requires some Hebrew though)
23:45:41 <Arnia> Night sbp
23:45:54 <clsn> [bjoern]: Yes... Come to think of it, Bel (a name for... some deity or other... Marduk?) I have seen spelled as בל.
23:46:03 <[bjoern]> There should be some sort of Electoral Compass for religions.
23:46:08 <Arnia> clsn: I'm currently pondering the use of an atheist barbie as a servitor
23:46:22 <Arnia> I'm wondering what would happen if someone tried it...
23:46:35 <Arnia> to be honest though, I've known people use Bugs Bunny as one so...
23:46:44 <clsn> Some guy apparently was trying to put his name on his yarmulke. In BIG letters, not the small ones you usually see, but painted on one of the side panels etc...
23:46:55 <clsn> Arnia: servitor how? Izzat like a familiar?
23:47:29 <Arnia> It is a form of locus of belief. You use it as a focal point
23:47:33 <clsn> I turned to my brother and asked "Does that guy have זב on his kippah?"
23:47:36 <clsn> Oh.
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23:48:21 <[bjoern]> I like the symbolism in http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:YarmulkeAndMenorah.jpg
23:48:48 <clsn> Necessary background: http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Leviticus%2015&version=NIV Leviticus chapter 15.
23:48:52 <Arnia> clsn: http://www.chaosmatrix.org/library/chaos/texts/servitors.html
23:49:17 <clsn> The Hebrew word used for "man with a bodily flow" is זב, exactly what that guy labelled himself as.
23:49:29 <Arnia> " Servitor is actually a word referring to entities that actualize through evocation"
23:50:08 <clsn> Apparently his name is Ze'ev (or Zev, etc), which is Hebrew for "Wolf" and not that rare a name (animal names were popular especially among Ashkenazic Jews). That's spelled זאב though.
23:50:45 <Arnia> Which is a technical way of saying that it is a point of focus of whatever working is trying to be enacted that is external to the person doing the working (invocation involves taking the focus inside oneself)
23:51:32 <clsn> (I think from Germany was the custom of naming with two animal names, for the same animal, the first name in Hebrew and the middle name in Yiddish/German. Hence people like "Dov Ber" (both "Bear"; this is my father's Hebrew name), or Zev Wulf, Aryeh Leib (Lion), Zvi Hirsch (deer), etc.
23:51:35 <clsn> )
23:53:39 <clsn> Interesting that even the word "Tetragrammaton", a word describing the *word*, has become deemed significant enough to figure in itself on some of the talismans.
23:55:40 <clsn> http://www.esotericarchives.com/gifs/0252fig.gif huh, the "directions" look like theyre in Hebrew, but hard to read.
23:55:57 <Arnia> Yes. Chaos magick would describe that as a natural consequence of the focus of belief on the tetragrammaton
23:56:01 <clsn> Oh, duh. From Sepher Mafteah Shlomoh.
23:56:14 <Arnia> Thelema would say that the word was a secret word itself
23:56:29 <Arnia> Goetia wouldn't ask difficult questions like that
23:56:40 <Arnia> Wicca would go 'tetragrammaton?'
23:56:55 <Arnia> Well, I think I've summarised magical theory in four lines there :p
23:56:58 <clsn> Mm. So the importance focussed on the word causes significance to "rub off" on the descriptor (chaos magic). I can see that. Much the same happened, with much the same words, in some bits of Judaism.
23:57:22 <clsn> Religious Jews typically refer to God as "Hashem" which means "The Name".
23:57:29 <Arnia> In chaos magick it is the act of belief which has power, not the symbols or the objects of the belief itself
23:57:47 <clsn> To the extent of discussing things like "Shem Hashem", which sounds like it means "The name's name" but really means "God's name".
23:57:59 <Arnia> The objects of belief serve as a sort of mnemonic for the intention of the working
23:58:23 <clsn> OK, so more focus on the internal (to the believer) workings.
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23:59:20 <Arnia> Well, for example if I wanted to do a working to accomplish great housekeeping, I could choose to evoke or invoke Mrs Beeton
23:59:23 <[bjoern]> I never heard of the naming convention above, but it's possible.
