2010-04-21 Swhack IRC Log

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00:46:57 <Gla> hey guys, how's it going?
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00:54:47 <Gla> hey guys, I've been working on a project for a while now called tap that allows you to create real-time communities on the web via streams that are easily accessable, and allows you to manage your community etc. It's kinda like Twitter meets Google Wave, are you guys interested in using it for your community? http://tap.info
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02:16:24 <BigJibby> .gc ffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffff
02:16:25 <phenny> ffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffff: 30
02:16:32 <BigJibby> .gc fffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffff
02:16:33 <phenny> fffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffff: 28
02:16:35 <BigJibby> .gc ffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffff
02:16:35 <phenny> ffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffff: 45
02:16:41 <BigJibby> :/
03:17:38 <KragenSitaker> this is looking like a premise for an xkcd cartoon
03:18:07 <KragenSitaker> Gla: how is it better than IRC?
03:19:33 <yano> I prefer irc any day!
03:20:04 <Gla> it allows for your community to be accessable to people outside of IRC
03:20:11 <Gla> and still have a real-time community
03:20:28 <Gla> so you can have a link on your site to a tap room
03:20:31 <KragenSitaker> Gla: you mean, like, they can see what we're saying by visiting a web page or something?
03:20:41 <Gla> correct
03:20:50 <KragenSitaker> like http://swhack.com/logs/2010-04-21?
03:21:07 <Gla> I mean seriously? heh
03:21:17 <Gla> there's a reason why services like Twitter are popular
03:21:28 <Gla> because they have a nice user interface which allows for useful interaction
03:21:50 <KragenSitaker> oh, you mean there's, like, a web-based chat client, so you don't have to install an IRC client?
03:21:58 <Gla> correct
03:22:21 <Gla> but it's different in the sense that the conversations are threaded
03:22:26 <Gla> and you don't have a lot of the noise of IRC
03:22:34 <KragenSitaker> like http://webchat.freenode.net/?
03:22:34 <Gla> plus it's searchable, etc
03:22:39 <KragenSitaker> oh, aha
03:22:54 <KragenSitaker> that's starting to sound more interesting
03:22:57 <Gla> so that when the a user joins, it's very simply to him or her
03:23:07 <Gla> yet, still as real-time as IRC
03:23:20 <KragenSitaker> so, a lot like Wave
03:23:34 <Gla> correct, but with a very simple and narrow focus
03:23:35 <KragenSitaker> but you don't like Wave's UI for Twitter-like usage?
03:23:54 <KragenSitaker> basically your complaint is that IRC isn't powerful enough and Wave is too hard to use?
03:24:00 <KragenSitaker> not complaint, I guess
03:24:10 <KragenSitaker> but the reason for the project
03:24:23 <KragenSitaker> and maybe "clumsy" rather than "too hard to use"?
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03:26:00 <testkragen> I haven't actually tried out http://webchat.freenode.net/ before
03:26:26 <Gla> KragenSitaker: yea, so IRC has a low user-base compared to other service
03:26:28 <Gla> service
03:26:35 <Gla> and Google Wave is to big and hard/complicated
03:26:45 <KragenSitaker> well, but it has a huge user-base compared to any newly-launched service, right?
03:26:46 <Gla> so we want to try to recreate the IRC expeierence on the web
03:27:10 <Gla> a real-time conversation that is about a specific community or focus, yet with more people invovled
03:27:12 <KragenSitaker> the threading sounds interesting though
03:27:26 <Gla> as I'm sure the swhack community could have a lot more people invovled with it
03:27:35 <KragenSitaker> it used to
03:27:45 <KragenSitaker> there's a story there that I'm not going to go into
03:27:48 <Gla> for example, I'm in Mountain View/Palo Alto California
03:27:59 <Gla> I was at a developer meetup yesterday
03:28:02 <KragenSitaker> are you a bot?
03:28:09 <Gla> erm?
03:28:17 <KragenSitaker> because "Mountain View/Palo Alto" sounds like something from a GeoIP database :)
03:28:23 <Gla> lol
03:28:28 <Gla> I took a poll from a few people
03:28:33 <Gla> almost nobody used IRC
03:28:38 <Gla> and they were all developers
03:28:38 <Monty> http://30.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_l13w85wI4K1qa0nd6o1_500.jpg
03:28:43 <KragenSitaker> oh, yeah
03:28:58 <KragenSitaker> IRC has only a few hundred thousand users in the world, I think
03:29:03 <Gla> correct
03:29:51 <KragenSitaker> sometimes when I've tried to use IRC or Skype chat to work on work things, we often start doing things that would benefit from editing
03:29:55 <KragenSitaker> have you tried Etherpad?
03:30:13 <Gla> of course
03:30:38 <Gla> we're moving in that direction
03:30:39 <KragenSitaker> I think the trouble with IRC is that too many people got involved with it
03:30:46 <Gla> but we really want to keep a narrow focus for now
03:30:51 <Gla> exactly
03:31:09 <Gla> and by having "taps", where the conversation is threaded, you allow for a nice stream of information
03:31:13 <KragenSitaker> and the power struggles have made IRC networks unstable and given them a bad reputation with hosting centers
03:32:10 <KragenSitaker> it's hard to find a hosting provider that will let you run even an IRC client
03:32:12 <KragenSitaker> let alone a server
03:32:21 <Gla> yea
03:32:26 <Gla> it's just so esoteric
03:32:33 <KragenSitaker> no, it's not that it's esoteric
03:32:42 <Gla> no it really is KragenSitaker
03:32:52 <Gla> I don't think you realize how many more people you could reach
03:33:08 <KragenSitaker> their service contracts don't say anything about FSP or PIRP or ICB or yam or gopher or wais any of the zillions of esoteric protocols
03:33:12 <Gla> I know some very smart people who don't have a clue how to use IRC
03:33:25 <Gla> you're comparing apples and oranges
03:33:27 <KragenSitaker> or, for that matter, AIM or ICQ or QQ or any other chat protocol
03:33:33 <Gla> you're comparing apples and oranges
03:33:33 <KragenSitaker> but they specifically forbid the use of IRC
03:33:40 <Gla> it's the interface and interaction
03:33:50 <Gla> the use of commands is the craziest thing to many people
03:33:58 <KragenSitaker> hosting providers do not forbid the use of IRC because of its user interface
03:34:09 <KragenSitaker> they forbid it because they are tired of being DoSed
03:34:14 <Gla> right
03:34:20 <Gla> well, KragenSitaker, if you would like to try out tap
03:34:25 <Gla> then please give it a shot
03:34:29 <Gla> we would really love your community to
03:34:48 <KragenSitaker> it sounds like an interesting idea
03:35:10 <Gla> http://tap.info/group/swhack
03:35:12 <KragenSitaker> what are its failure properties?
03:35:19 <Gla> you can post that link on your site or in the topic
03:35:41 <Gla> not sure what that means
03:36:29 <KragenSitaker> I mean, what happens when people try to DoS the server, or take ownership of a tap?
03:36:44 <KragenSitaker> because I think that's the kind of thing that has caused problems for IRC
03:36:49 <Gla> well we prevent DoS as any service does
03:36:58 <Gla> like Facebook or anyone
03:37:05 <Gla> we have a team in place to take care of that
03:37:26 <KragenSitaker> by distributing tens of thousands of servers across geographically distributed data centers and having strong business relationships with your upstream network service providers?
03:37:27 <Gla> right now we're small enough to not have to worry about that, but as time goes on we'll have a dedicated team for that
03:37:38 <Gla> correct
03:37:55 <KragenSitaker> and by paying ransom when necessary
03:37:55 <Gla> that's a bit a ways away though
03:38:07 <KragenSitaker> sure
03:38:08 <Gla> yea that won't happen
03:38:26 <Gla> I've scaled 2 of 10 of the largest websites in the world as the lead architect
03:38:26 <KragenSitaker> it's never happened to ICB either, because it stayed small
03:38:33 <Gla> pretty sure we've handled that
03:38:38 <Gla> it's trivial
03:38:50 <Gla> the real problems are scaling communities and making you happy
03:38:51 <KragenSitaker> nice. which ones?
03:39:14 <KragenSitaker> it does have a slick user interface
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05:25:50 <[bjoern]> phenny, tell sbp http://code.google.com/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=41467
05:25:51 <phenny> [bjoern]: I'll pass that on when sbp is around.
05:39:30 <[bjoern]> .title http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/8633435.stm
05:39:32 <phenny> [bjoern]: BBC News - 'Texting eclipses talking' among US teens
07:05:16 <[bjoern]> http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1266643/Microsofts-Chinese-workforce-tired-stay-awake.html
07:06:56 <Arnia> I think the noise of Swhack is one of its greatest features
07:07:13 <Arnia> it is a perpetual ramble
07:07:22 <Arnia> ... sort of reminds me of the inside of my head
07:09:19 <Arnia> Gla: you might want to ping sbp, or AaronSW since this is their community really. Well, de facto more sbp's nowadays
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07:45:49 <[bjoern]> .title http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2010/04/20/national/main6414178.shtml
07:45:50 <phenny> [bjoern]: iPad Thief Rips Off Victim's Pinky, Too - CBS News
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08:12:10 <KragenSitaker> Arnia: yeah, I told him that in privmsg
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08:25:11 <Monty> hi mmmmmrob
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08:38:19 <Arnia> phenny, tell procto about http://bit.ly/b4D3Wf
08:38:20 <phenny> Arnia: I'll pass that on when procto is around.
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08:46:41 <Monty> hi Gla, how ya doing?
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08:49:58 <[bjoern]> .title http://www.nytimes.com/2010/04/20/technology/20google.html
08:49:58 <phenny> [bjoern]: Cyberattack on Google Said to Hit Password System - NYTimes.com
09:08:13 <[bjoern]> .title http://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/house-and-home/the-islandmountainglacier-volcano--how-to-pronounce-eyjafjallajkull-1948620.html
09:08:15 <phenny> [bjoern]: "The islandmountainglacier volcano" - how to pronounce Eyjafjallajökull - House & Home, Life & Style - The Independent
09:09:31 <[bjoern]> ( via http://google.com/trends?q=Eyjafjallaj%C3%B6kull )
09:11:15 <[bjoern]> "It's like speaking viking"
09:13:39 <[bjoern]> "The Arizona House on Monday voted for a provision that would require President Barack Obama to show his birth certificate if he hopes to be on the state's ballot when he runs for reelection."
09:14:06 <[bjoern]> "Phoenix Democratic Rep. Kyrsten Sinema said the bill is one of several measures that are making Arizona 'the laughing stock of the nation.'"
09:21:48 <[bjoern]> hmm http://tinysong.com/ passed the first test
09:22:54 <[bjoern]> (searched for 'delerium firefly' and it found Euphoria, and clicking the play button started the playback, that's almost impressive for web services these days.)
09:23:16 <[bjoern]> quality is okay even
09:29:09 <[bjoern]> phenny, tell sbp http://imagebin.ca/view/Xj4zAdMp.html
09:29:10 <phenny> [bjoern]: I'll pass that on when sbp is around.
09:33:21 <[bjoern]> .wik Earth Day
09:33:22 <phenny> "Earth Day is a day designed to inspire awareness and appreciation for the Earth's environment." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Earth_Day
09:34:06 <[bjoern]> .title http://www.un.org/News/Press/docs/2009/ga10823.doc.htm
09:34:07 <phenny> [bjoern]: GENERAL ASSEMBLY PROCLAIMS 22 APRIL ‘INTERNATIONAL MOTHER EARTH DAY’ ADOPTING BY CONSENSUS BOLIVIA-LED RESOLUTION
09:36:43 <[bjoern]> "A judge on Friday struck down a law approved by voters that banned gay couples and other unmarried people living together from being adoptive or foster parents." -- "Arkansas: Adoption Ban Struck Down" -- http://www.nytimes.com/2010/04/17/us/17brfs-ADOPTIONBANS_BRF.html
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09:39:51 <[bjoern]> .gc "britain, europe, and america"
09:39:52 <phenny> "britain, europe, and america": 986
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10:09:23 <Monty> it's danbri!
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10:36:56 <sbp> yo
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10:39:20 <[bjoern]> yo p
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10:53:56 <sbp> [bjoern]: was ist meaning of imagebin link?
10:54:07 <[bjoern]> count storks
10:58:20 <sbp> I see one
10:58:27 <sbp> unless those two in the background are also storks
10:58:50 <sbp> current is funny. http://www.martingrund.de/pfalzstorch/livebilder/nestz6we4f.jpg
11:00:02 <[bjoern]> i assume as much
11:00:14 <[bjoern]> indeed
11:01:25 <sbp> last year's pair coming back to try to recapture the nest perhaps
11:01:31 <sbp> though I must admit I thought they looked like seagulls
11:01:38 <sbp> but I guess Bornheim doesn't get many seagulls
11:01:38 <Monty> Hedhou St0rm ♥ St0rm :D
11:01:43 <sbp> due to absence of the sea
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11:03:02 <[bjoern]> also a bit big for sea gulls
11:04:29 <sbp> they might just be closer to the camera than they appear
11:05:51 <sbp> http://www.bitrebels.com/geek/barbies-unflattering-photos-shes-not-so-perfect-after-all/
11:12:33 <[bjoern]> I was considering the dimensions of the bodies vs the wings
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11:14:33 <[bjoern]> That site also features important issues like "What Do You Do When Someone Stalks You On Twitter?"
11:15:17 <[bjoern]> hmm hmm http://www.bitrebels.com/geek/how-one-photoshop-artist-fooled-everyone/
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11:17:08 <[bjoern]> http://www.bitrebels.com/geek/barbie-revenge-the-most-creative-use-of-barbie%e2%80%99s-body-parts/
11:17:11 <sbp> "(although perhaps someone somewhere has since created it because people obviously want it)"
11:17:42 <[bjoern]> I like the arm necklace
11:17:45 <nsh> i'm actually a bit worried for labour now
11:17:55 <nsh> they're not even trying it seems
11:18:03 <sbp> I saw a poll on BBC News yesterday that put LD > Con > Lab
11:18:03 <[bjoern]> Are they thinking about comitting mass suicide?
11:19:02 <sbp> the funny thing is that Clegg used to be Cameron Lite
11:19:06 <sbp> but now Cameron is Cameron Lite
11:20:43 <[bjoern]> hmm hmm "In most instances, Turritopsis reproduce like all species: the meeting of free-floating eggs and sperm"
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11:21:21 <[bjoern]> "Theoretically, this cycle can repeat indefinitely, rendering it biologically immortal" - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turritopsis
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11:32:49 <sbp> n'importe qui a vu mon fabricant de crêpe?
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11:34:33 <[bjoern]> .title http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/uri/2010Apr/0018.html
11:34:34 <phenny> [bjoern]: backronym proposal: Universal Resource Linker from Dan Brickley on 2010-04-18 (uri@w3.org from April 2010)
11:35:41 <sbp> I suggest ÖRL
11:35:44 <[bjoern]> "I think you all need to find a better hobby." -- Roy T. Fielding
11:37:39 <[bjoern]> hmm http://www.bitrebels.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/04/Twitter-Mega-Celebrity-3.jpg
11:38:13 <sbp> phenny: tell danbri Universal Resource Link would have been better, imo afaik ianasl etc.
11:38:13 <phenny> sbp: I'll pass that on when danbri is around.
11:38:54 <sbp> who is she on twitter?
11:40:16 <[bjoern]> I do note it's been "Uniform" since 1994.
11:40:21 <[bjoern]> I do not know.
11:40:38 <sbp> timbl always preferred Universal
11:40:52 <sbp> Uniform happened when the stupids moved in
11:40:53 <[bjoern]> it's #3 on h ttp://www.bitrebels.com/geek/10-ways-to-become-a-twitter-mega-celebrity/ (you don't want to read it)
11:41:26 <sbp> hmm. breaking the h off made it non-clickable which actually put it over the threshhold for caring to click. thanks!
11:41:32 <[bjoern]> It's important to get those on board, like getting the SGMLers on the HTML bandwagon
11:41:35 <sbp> tactic: WORKED
11:41:50 <sbp> oh yeah, I remember getting the SGMLers on the HTML bandwagon was really productive
11:41:57 <[bjoern]> yeah I've been using that for some time now with good results
11:42:03 <sbp> because of all those SGML tools they used in implementing any HTML user agent ever
11:42:25 <[bjoern]> Used to split the domain name and such, but with this it's easier to recover if you really feel like it
11:42:52 <sbp> yeah
11:42:53 <Monty> It’s finer – on http://www.oreillynet.com/pub/e/1588 to read.
11:42:58 <sbp> .title
11:43:00 <phenny> sbp: Introduction to Apache CouchDB
11:43:11 <[bjoern]> I heard the other day it's coded in Erlang
11:43:17 <[bjoern]> when I started coding erlang
11:43:24 <sbp> why did you start coding erlang
11:43:25 <[bjoern]> after realizing I am supposed to code erlang, not eiffel
11:43:35 <sbp> yeah, we don't have any eiffel people
11:43:36 <[bjoern]> (which took only about an hour...)
11:44:01 <[bjoern]> well to complete mandatory excercises.
11:44:58 <[bjoern]> I wonder what's obama got to do with it http://www.bitrebels.com/geek/haiticopter-haiti-brothers-build-fully-working-diy-helicopter/
11:45:55 <sbp> What steps will reproduce the problem?
11:45:56 <sbp> 1. Go to http://www.google.com/
11:45:56 <sbp> 2.
11:45:56 <sbp> 3.
11:46:29 <[bjoern]> hehe
11:46:53 <[bjoern]> I liked comment 161
11:47:46 <sbp> that is quite funny, now that I looked up meanings
11:47:50 <sbp> http://www.chromium.org/spdy/spdy-protocol/spdy-protocol-draft2
11:49:29 <[bjoern]> They somewhere have the usual google statistics to show how awesome it is (we did something or other, we wont tell what exactly or explain how what we did is actually meaningful, and, woosh, we're cool-style statistics with random numbers, critics might call it)
11:49:42 <sbp> "This is not an agreed-upon move, industry-wide."
11:49:43 <sbp> http://www.readwriteweb.com/archives/chrome_hucks_http.php
11:54:24 <sbp> http://html5readiness.com/
11:54:51 <[bjoern]> scary örl.
11:55:06 <sbp> yup
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11:56:14 <sbp> they call him danbri. daaaanbri! he drives the fastest browser in the west
11:56:37 <[bjoern]> is that lynx, or w3m, these days?
11:56:41 <sbp> w3m
11:56:52 <[bjoern]> You just say that because of the name.
11:56:55 <sbp> yup
11:57:32 <[bjoern]> I can read you like a wikipedia article.
11:57:49 <sbp> citation needed
11:58:07 <[bjoern]> verboten.
11:58:20 <sbp> I'll hide your edits in two weeks
11:58:41 <danbri> curl!
11:58:41 <phenny> danbri: 11:38Z <sbp> tell danbri Universal Resource Link would have been better, imo afaik ianasl etc.
11:58:48 <sbp> I should probably write a whits post about boring ... whoo! he took the phenny bait
11:59:05 <danbri> sbp, 'link' doesn't work, cos you can have two links to the same target in one page
11:59:09 <[bjoern]> .gc "uniform universalism"
11:59:10 <phenny> "uniform universalism": 3
11:59:11 <danbri> two links one common url
11:59:25 <[bjoern]> Call them anchors!
11:59:34 <danbri> anyway i have retired my proposal for now; Roy says I should get another hobby
11:59:40 <sbp> URA? that isn't going to work when you think about the internationalised version
11:59:43 <sbp> yeah, we saw that. heh
11:59:57 <[bjoern]> No, just anchor.
12:00:06 <sbp> what does ANCHOR stand for?
12:00:12 <sbp> to me it is a kind of shippy butter
12:00:16 <[bjoern]> acronym ANCHOR
12:00:16 <Monty> "ANCHOR" - ayup! noinclude) complaint history option realize
12:00:30 <sbp> well, it's better than Uniform Resource Identifier...
12:00:42 <[bjoern]> Anchors - Die wecken den Seebären in dir!
12:01:10 * sbp enjoys the translation on the sly
12:01:26 <[bjoern]> .leo Seebär
12:01:27 <phenny> sea bear = der Seebär
12:01:28 <phenny> old salt (naut.) = alter Seebär (ugs.)
12:01:29 <phenny> sea dog = alter Seebär
12:01:30 <phenny> — http://dict.leo.org/ende?search=Seeb%C3%A4r
12:01:49 <[bjoern]> Die wecken den Tiger in dir! is the kellogs frosties slogan
12:01:57 <[bjoern]> as in http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Frosted-flakes.cbx.png
12:03:00 <sbp> apparently kellogg's cornflakes were first invented as a cure for masturbation
12:03:11 <sbp> the Kellogg brothers were trying to find a cure for masturbation
12:03:20 <sbp> and they invented cornflakes as part of that search
12:03:44 <sbp> part of me hopes this is a snopes TRUE and part of me hopes it's a snopes FALSE
12:04:11 <[bjoern]> 'Kellogg strongly warned against the habit in his own words, claiming of masturbation-related deaths "such a victim literally dies by his own hand," among other condemnations.'
12:05:42 <[bjoern]> "Mr. Kellogg thought sex was the ultimate abomination and remained celibate even in marriage."
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12:06:10 <[bjoern]> "He believed it led to leprosy, tuberculosis, heart disease, epilepsy, dimness of vision, insanity, idiocy, and death. He also preached that masturbation led to bashfulness in some people, unnatural boldness in others, a fondness for spicy foods, round shoulders, and acne."
12:06:13 <sbp> I submit that Kellogg's cornflakes are the tastiest attempted cure for masturbation known!
12:06:16 <[bjoern]> fondness for spicy foods?
12:06:22 <[bjoern]> I am not sure about that
12:06:31 <sbp> name a tastier one
12:06:50 <[bjoern]> You'd just go out and try it
12:07:03 <sbp> citation needed
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12:07:30 <[bjoern]> No original research.
12:07:43 <sbp> WPNOR
12:07:51 <[bjoern]> "The British PR office for Kellogg's claimed on its Twitter feed today that it has succeeded in etching its brand into individual corn flakes so they stand out against any copies."
12:08:01 <[bjoern]> http://www.news.com.au/technology/kelloggs-says-laser-etched-cornflakes-are-real-but-not-in-australia/story-e6frfro0-1225787029143 has pix
12:08:43 <sbp> http://craftymind.com/factory/html5video/CanvasVideo.html
12:08:59 <[bjoern]> What is it with you and html5 linkers.
12:09:13 <sbp> —
12:09:14 <sbp> Laser-etched cornflakes 'not a hoax'
12:09:14 <sbp> But Australia won't see cereal innovation
12:09:16 <sbp> Cornflakes: Marketers milk laser-etching
12:09:18 <sbp> eBay: Weirdest sale was ET cereal
12:09:20 <sbp> —
12:09:24 <sbp> THEY'RE NOT COMIG... WOAH CAPS AWESOME
12:09:27 <sbp> THEY'RE NOT COMING FROM ME
12:09:28 <[bjoern]> Yeah I liked the summary
12:10:10 <[bjoern]> I like how that video eats half of my cpu
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12:11:15 <sbp> yeah but at least you can blow it up in retaliation
12:11:42 <[bjoern]> It's a T-1000ish video though
12:11:50 <sbp> .wik T-1000
12:11:51 <phenny> "The T-1000 is a fictional android assassin and the main antagonist in Terminator 2: Judgment Day." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/T-1000
12:12:04 <sbp> .wik ish
12:12:04 <phenny> "...ish (album) a 1989 album by the Australian rock band 1927" - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ish
12:12:09 <sbp> makes sense
12:12:43 <coax> .wik sbp
12:12:45 <phenny> "SBPhoenix , poet/author from Dumbarton Scotland." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SBP
12:14:28 <[bjoern]> Funny thing is that there is more known about my s than about sbp's b.
12:15:09 <sbp> e.g. we know the s containeth ane umlaut
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12:31:24 <[bjoern]> 'The accompanying note read the page had been disabled because it "promotes illegal acts"' (facebook deleting wikileaks)
12:35:14 <[bjoern]> tinysong.com test #2 is a fail (Dan Gardopée and Basehead resulted in no relevant hits)
12:35:16 <[bjoern]> .wik Dan Gardopée
12:35:16 <phenny> "Dan Gardopée aka Dan Grandpre (aka Basehead in the tracker community) is an electronic musician and former member of game music production company Straylight Productions." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dan_Gardopée
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12:37:04 <[bjoern]> purple motion got one hit after clicking + several times
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12:37:49 <sbp> .title http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/election_2010/8634952.stm
12:37:52 <phenny> sbp: BBC News - David Cameron is struck by an egg
12:38:39 <[bjoern]> "Student couldn't afford throwaway shoes."
12:39:10 <sbp> photo on this used to be http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/47684000/jpg/_47684406_egg226bbc.jpg
12:39:35 <[bjoern]> I like how he's putting a positive spin on it http://www.johnpilger.com/page.asp?partid=570
12:39:36 <[bjoern]> .title
12:39:38 <phenny> [bjoern]: ITV - John Pilger - Have a nice world war, folks
12:39:38 <Monty> could even maybe via the thing that embraces the VM all finnish bank accounts have indeed heard the expression
12:39:58 <[bjoern]> That's egg shell around a condom?
12:40:54 <sbp> see topic
12:41:16 <[bjoern]> once more the circle is complete
12:41:19 <[bjoern]> "Chrysler Lost $4 Billion but Sees Signs of Improvement"
12:41:40 <[bjoern]> "Amid an oil boom, North Dakota is a state with a novel problem: there are jobs, but nowhere to put the workers."
12:41:47 <[bjoern]> they could team up with some other states.
12:42:49 <sbp> South Dakota perhaps
12:42:52 <sbp> if there exist such a thing
12:43:04 <[bjoern]> I am a bit disturbed by the current makeup of http://www.nytimes.com/ - top has [Colourful Microsoft ad] (black on white) The New York Times [Colourful MSN ad]
12:43:24 <sbp> no Microsoft ad for me
12:43:32 <sbp> oh wait, yeah
12:43:33 <[bjoern]> Do they have maps in sufficient quantaties to find their way to the north?
12:43:55 <sbp> well because of the Iraq and maps people aren't communication the maps that they have like some countries
12:44:42 <[bjoern]> We could trade our children for maps for our children.
12:45:23 <[bjoern]> "For Apple, Lost iPhone Is a Big Deal" oh yeah, like all the other apple "leaks" that generated some media frenzy.
12:46:30 <[bjoern]> .title http://www.nytimes.com/2010/04/18/magazine/18marriage-t.html?hpw
12:46:31 <phenny> [bjoern]: Is Marriage Good for Your Health? - NYTimes.com
12:46:54 <[bjoern]> they have a chart and a brit who studied the french in 1858
12:46:59 <[bjoern]> almost inclined to read it
12:48:05 <sbp> FABIAN
12:48:06 <sbp> Now, as thou lovest me, let me see his letter.
12:48:06 <sbp> Clown
12:48:06 <sbp> Good Master Fabian, grant me another request.
12:48:06 <sbp> FABIAN
12:48:06 <sbp> Any thing.
12:48:08 <sbp> Clown
12:48:10 <sbp> Do not desire to see this letter.
12:48:14 <sbp> FABIAN
12:48:16 <sbp> This is, to give a dog, and in recompense desire my
12:48:18 <sbp> dog again.
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12:49:04 <[bjoern]> Clowns and Zoophilia don't mix.
12:49:16 <sbp> where have you been these past five years?
12:49:29 <sbp> they are extremely miscible
12:49:36 <[bjoern]> Nowhere I liked.
12:50:58 <[bjoern]> "Defense Secretary Robert M. Gates called on Tuesday for an overhaul of the nation\rquote s export control system that he said would loosen sales of sensitive technology to American allies without letting up on restrictions over nations like Iran."
12:51:09 <[bjoern]> Surprising, Weapons Chief wants to sell more weapons.
12:51:31 <[bjoern]> "In a speech to military contractors, Mr. Gates said that the current system, much of which dates from the end of the cold war, undermined the nation\rquote s defense because it made it so difficult for the United States to supply weapons and equipment to friendly countries"
12:51:52 <[bjoern]> Like Iraq he means, I take it?
12:52:10 <[bjoern]> How did that work out in the 80s, I should read that up again
12:53:10 <[bjoern]> "Texas Town Adjusts to Life Without Bush"
12:53:19 <[bjoern]> I like the pix http://www.nytimes.com/2010/04/21/us/21crawford.html?hpw
12:55:15 <[bjoern]> "2txt? Or Nt2txt?" is a cheap headline
12:55:30 <sbp> —
12:55:31 <sbp> “Ever since he got that new place in Dallas, he hasn’t been around much,” said Carter Blenden, the waiter at the Coffee Station who served Mr. Bush a cheeseburger with jalapeño fries on July 28 last year, his last trip to the local restaurant. (The ticket is preserved on the wall of the kitchen.)
12:55:32 <sbp> —
12:56:16 <[bjoern]> http://thelede.blogs.nytimes.com/2010/04/21/eyjafjallajokull-the-musical/?src=twr better be good
12:56:29 <sbp> src=twr?
12:56:41 <[bjoern]> timeswire
12:56:47 <[bjoern]> I like how it's from Al Jazeera
12:56:53 <sbp> apparently Björk is not explaining it
12:57:15 <[bjoern]> yeah the link was like "An Icelandic musician -- no, not that one -- would like to teach the world to sing, "Eyjafjallajokull.""
12:57:20 <sbp> hehe
12:57:21 <[bjoern]> vid features merkel
12:57:25 <sbp> ouch
12:58:13 <sbp> hahahahaha
12:58:15 <sbp> —
12:58:17 <sbp> Cleggmania Shakes Up British Election
12:58:19 <sbp> Just days after he was the third man of the British election campaign, Nick Clegg, the Liberal Democrat leader whose party is surging in the polls, now finds himself compared to Winston Churchill, Barack Obama, Princess Diana and even Jesus.
12:58:23 <sbp> —
12:59:23 <[bjoern]> The video was not pure torture. Still like how the NYT has Al Jazeera footage on icelandic musicals.
12:59:49 <sbp> makes sense to me
13:00:22 <[bjoern]> AYVA Fiat Yoghurt Merkel is the pronounciation, according to the video screen, to explain the merkel reference.
13:00:54 <sbp> oh fine I'll watch it what the fuck
13:03:17 <[bjoern]> (today 50y ago) "The first controversy of the Rome 1960 summer Olympic Games has arisen around a searching personal questionnaire prepared by the medical committee for all athletes of the 80 competing countries. The last and most disputed question asked each athlete is to state over his or her signature whether his ...
13:03:19 <[bjoern]> or her "sexual temperament" can best be described by three, two or one crosses or by a minus mark. The questionnaire asks those who are married to state whether the marriage has been "good," "mediocre" or "bad." News of the questionnaire caused protests in England and critical editorials in Italy."
13:08:35 <[bjoern]> .title http://www.wired.com/dangerroom/2010/04/mullen-please-for-the-love-of-god-dont-attack-iran
13:08:35 <Monty> Good
13:08:36 <phenny> [bjoern]: Joint Chiefs Chair: No, No, No. Don’t Attack Iran. | Danger Room | Wired.com
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13:09:42 <sbp> good
13:11:09 <[bjoern]> .leo Menschenkette
13:11:10 <phenny> die Menschenkette = human chain
13:11:11 <phenny> — http://dict.leo.org/ende?search=Menschenkette
13:11:47 <[bjoern]> 120km are planned for saturday to protest nuclear policy between Brunsbüttel and Krümmel
13:13:59 <[bjoern]> Our oldest and most watched news bulletin reports the Open Date Movement has reached Germany. I am thinking about reading the article.
13:14:04 <sbp> "Clegg himself has an almost unprecedented approval rating of 72%, ahead of Cameron on 19% and Brown on minus 18%."
13:14:13 <[bjoern]> "ahead"
13:14:19 <sbp> Open Date?
13:14:27 <[bjoern]> Data
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13:15:18 <[bjoern]> .wik data.gov.uk
13:15:19 <phenny> "data.gov.uk is a UK Government project to open up almost all data acquired for official purposes for free re-use." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Data.gov.uk
13:15:45 <[bjoern]> ah apparently they are more launched than last time i checked
13:16:27 <[bjoern]> You can live sparql their data?
13:17:08 <[bjoern]> not seeing a submit button
13:18:27 <sbp> um, why do you want a submit button? wouldn't that make it too easy?
13:18:31 <sbp> SPARQL is meant to be *hard*
13:18:35 <[bjoern]> worked around it using javascript:document.getElementById('edit-submit').click()
13:19:12 <[bjoern]> it also works to click the dropdown and then hit return
13:20:09 <[bjoern]> http://data.gov.uk/wiki/index.php?title=Special:RecentChanges not the most active
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13:20:57 <sbp> http://data.gov.uk/wiki/Linked_Data_Publishing_Handbook
13:21:05 <sbp> no wonder, all of your data becomes Crown Copyright
13:21:30 <[bjoern]> .gc +HMWiki
13:21:30 <phenny> +HMWiki: 93
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13:28:44 <sbp> heh. https://www.data.gov.uk/sites/default/files/imagefield_thumbs/gherkin.png
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13:29:40 <[bjoern]> Not getting the image
13:30:13 <[bjoern]> Nice still image on http://data.gov.uk/resources
13:32:36 <sbp> https://www.data.gov.uk/terms-conditions
13:32:39 <sbp> who is the provider?
13:32:47 <sbp> see also https://www.data.gov.uk/users/sean-b-palmer
13:32:56 <sbp> and https://www.data.gov.uk/wiki/User:Sean_B._Palmer
13:33:00 <sbp> and https://www.data.gov.uk/profile/3386
13:33:39 <[bjoern]> "You are not authorized to access this page."
13:33:42 <coax> http://www.wall.org/~larry/
13:33:47 <coax> good page
13:34:05 <sbp> seen it many times before
13:35:03 <coax> chartreuse is becoming one of my favorite colors too
13:35:50 <sbp> careful, it may give you CLEGGMANIA
13:37:06 <coax> heh
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13:39:24 <sbp> .gc "Vincent Sternberg"
13:39:25 <phenny> "Vincent Sternberg": 12
13:39:55 <[bjoern]> In a weak moment I have created a github account.
13:40:40 <sbp> .gc "Cecil Harbottle"
13:40:41 <phenny> "Cecil Harbottle": 4
13:40:43 <sbp> [bjoern]: what name?
13:40:47 <sbp> then I can follow you
13:40:51 <sbp> and we will be socially networked
13:41:07 <[bjoern]> Yeah, the thought makes me sick in my stomach
13:41:16 <[bjoern]> I picked the same name as for my sf.net account
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13:42:13 <[bjoern]> I do like how it says "... hasn\rquote t done anything yet" on my profile
13:42:42 <sbp> grosseausgezeichnetenmanndermaschinensoftwaremachtfuerleutewiesiesaugen?
13:42:54 <[bjoern]> close
13:43:16 <[bjoern]> It's linked from my homepage fwiw
13:43:19 <[bjoern]> and is obvious
13:43:42 <sbp> well, you say that but...
13:43:45 <sbp> I took the following steps
13:43:52 <sbp> (1) visit http://bjoern.hoehrmann.de/utf-8/decoder/dfa/
13:43:59 <sbp> (2) activate the Donate via SourceForge link
13:44:10 <sbp> (3) receive a 404 at the destination of http://sourceforge.net/developer/user_donations.php?user_id=188003
13:44:20 <[bjoern]> That sucks
13:44:24 <[bjoern]> .g höhrmann sourceforge
13:44:25 <phenny> [bjoern]: http://sourceforge.net/users/hoehrmann/
13:44:51 <[bjoern]> I do recall they sent mail about something relating to donations some day
13:46:01 <sbp> I have sent you a message on github
13:46:26 <[bjoern]> great now I have to login there
13:46:37 <sbp> and you will regret it even more, immediately
13:47:26 <[bjoern]> of course.
13:51:37 * sbp assumes [bjoern] is afk prising his eyeballs out with a buffalo
13:52:00 <[bjoern]> Can't figure out how to donate to people on sf.net anymore
13:52:14 <[bjoern]> Mostly it made me more hungry
13:52:34 <sbp> try buffalo wings
13:53:03 <sbp> perhaps you should xhwck your email for that donation thing
13:53:24 <sbp> [bjoern]: this one works:
13:53:24 <sbp> http://sourceforge.net/donate/index.php?group_id=163847
13:53:32 <sbp> that uses a group_id rather than a user_id
13:53:49 <sbp> ah, here we go:
13:53:50 <sbp> http://sourceforge.net/donate/index.php?user_id=188003
13:53:52 <sbp> the obvious worked
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13:55:31 <sbp> video! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gx379u2NMb0
13:55:32 <sbp> .title
13:55:32 <phenny> sbp: YouTube - Chicken fails to get Cameron in a flap
13:56:33 <sbp> huh, no egg
13:56:47 <sbp> oh, video on http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/election_2010/8634952.stm now
13:57:03 <coax> whos got the coolest personal website of everyone?
13:58:01 <sbp> good question
13:58:08 <coax> i like personal websites they're better than all the commercial ones
13:58:14 <coax> blogs not included yet
13:58:20 <sbp> I'm going to say mine
13:58:35 <coax> the inamidst one?
13:58:37 <sbp> even though it's half broken, it's still better than anything else
13:58:38 <sbp> yeah
13:58:40 <[bjoern]> I got sbpmail.
13:58:49 * sbp lends [bjoern] a buffalo
13:58:58 <sbp> also, http://sourceforge.net/donate/index.php?user_id=188003
13:59:12 <coax> sbp does that mean all of that domain or just the folder /sbp/
13:59:28 <sbp> dunno, up to you. you said personal website so I guess the whole thing
13:59:29 <[bjoern]> How did you figure that one out?
13:59:38 <sbp> but you can change your own goalposts since you're the only person playing
14:00:18 <sbp> [bjoern]: I think I googled sourceforge donations, found a site which had a link to a working donation, found that it was a group donation, and figured that I could probably hybridise that ÖRI with the parameters from your old now broken ÖRI
14:00:19 <coax> i think you're right.. this IS one of the best ones
14:00:29 <sbp> see, there ya go
14:00:49 <sbp> unruly chaos and bad design + Eric Gill font = surprising amount of win
14:01:03 <[bjoern]> .title http://www.computerworlduk.com/management/security/cybercrime/news/index.cfm?newsid=19921
14:01:06 <phenny> [bjoern]: Drug-dealing spammers hack Gmail accounts - Cybercrime & Hacking - ComputerworldUK
14:01:44 <[bjoern]> i was trying that, but didn't find a donation accepting project sufficiently quickly
14:02:03 <sbp> .title http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2010/apr/19/volcanic-ash-another-swine-flu
14:02:05 <phenny> sbp: Volcanic ash is the new swine flu panic | Simon Jenkins | Comment is free | guardian.co.uk
14:02:06 <[bjoern]> .gc +404nazi
14:02:07 <phenny> +404nazi: 0
14:02:10 <sbp> .title http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2010/apr/20/clegg-cameron-posher
14:02:12 <phenny> sbp: Who's posher: Clegg or Cameron? | Sholto Byrnes | Comment is free | guardian.co.uk
14:02:59 <coax> your blog source is clever sbp
14:03:02 <coax> never seen that before
14:03:17 <[bjoern]> "Google says there's no Gmail bug." oh, ok, sry!
14:03:17 <sbp> yeah, well, I wrote like five kinds of software to power that site before
14:03:29 <sbp> and then I thought sod it, I'll just use Google Groups instead
14:03:35 <sbp> but I still wanted a page and a feed
14:03:56 <sbp> so I used Yahoo! Pipes to fix the Google Groups feed, and then Feedburner to fix the Yahoo! Pipes output. (with a little help from nslater)
14:04:13 <sbp> Google fixing Yahoo! fixing Google
14:04:30 <[bjoern]> when i logged into github and found no inboxish ui, i did consider russian reversal on sbp, but i do wonder if following noone isnt actually cooler.
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14:05:12 <sbp> well as d8uv said the coolness index is followers / following
14:05:24 <sbp> so I guess if you follow 0 you'll get infinite coolness
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14:05:46 <[bjoern]> i doubt that is the right formula
14:07:14 <[bjoern]> I do like how github links my website with <a rel="nofollow me" ...>
14:08:38 <sbp> they're so classy
14:14:22 <[bjoern]> Hmm so mozilla is planning on creating an addon marketplace.
14:14:39 <sbp> marketplace? with money and everything?
14:14:45 <[bjoern]> yeah
14:14:52 <sbp> .head http://bjoern.hoehrmann.de/bh5.gif
14:14:54 <phenny> sbp: 200, image/gif, 2008-03-25 20:21:55 UTC, 14298 bytes
14:15:06 <sbp> .head http://bjoern.hoehrmann.de/bh4.gif
14:15:07 <phenny> sbp: 200, image/gif, 2008-03-25 20:21:55 UTC, 12971 bytes
14:15:10 <sbp> .head http://bjoern.hoehrmann.de/bh3.gif
14:15:10 <phenny> sbp: 200, image/gif, 2008-03-25 20:21:54 UTC, 13627 bytes
14:15:13 <sbp> .head http://bjoern.hoehrmann.de/bh2.gif
14:15:14 <phenny> sbp: 200, image/gif, 2008-03-25 20:21:54 UTC, 11413 bytes
14:15:16 <sbp> .head http://bjoern.hoehrmann.de/bh1.gif
14:15:17 <phenny> sbp: 404, text/html, iso-8859-1, 205 bytes
14:15:21 <[bjoern]> had do use .gif there due to png alpha issues I think
14:15:22 <sbp> .head http://bjoern.hoehrmann.de/bh.gif
14:15:22 <phenny> sbp: 200, image/gif, 2008-03-25 20:21:53 UTC, 13058 bytes
14:16:01 <[bjoern]> The dates got all wrong by isp transition
14:16:07 <sbp> bh2.gif was the pinnacle of compactness
14:16:54 <[bjoern]> the png for 5 is not smaller (than 2's gif)
14:17:24 <[bjoern]> I did wonder the other day if perhaps I should update the address on the page
14:17:32 <[bjoern]> not having lived there for about two years now
14:19:25 <sbp> nah
14:19:53 <[bjoern]> Main argument against it is that I'd redesign the page wholesale most likely
14:20:18 <[bjoern]> Probably in a more blueish direction
14:20:35 <sbp> you should use -webkit-gradient too
14:20:54 <[bjoern]> Not using webkit, I am not sure about that.
14:20:55 <sbp> also, you don't even have a link to your github profile!
14:21:04 <[bjoern]> Unless there is a good method to annoy webkit users with it
14:21:32 <sbp> just put "APPLE = MICROSOFT" on the page somewhere
14:21:46 <[bjoern]> I didn't have a sf.net link on it until after many years of membership
14:21:51 <sbp> right next to your MVP badge perhaps
14:22:04 <sbp> yeah, now you need to transition to Google Code anyway
14:22:10 <sbp> I mean... github. right. github
14:22:27 <[bjoern]> I did think about confusing people by having the updated site only under björn.höhrmann.de
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14:23:31 <[bjoern]> I also thought about migrating all my stuff to the site, though I am rather unsure about that.
14:24:12 <sbp> yeah, don't do that
14:24:29 <[bjoern]> I like the tags they use http://rt.perl.org/rt3//Public/Bug/Display.html?id=73308
14:24:30 <[bjoern]> .title
14:24:31 <sbp> otherwise you'll be all "responsible" and shit
14:24:32 <phenny> [bjoern]: #73308: [BUG] [WEIRD] Rakudo can't parse '[][]'
14:24:43 <[bjoern]> you are being unreasonable
14:24:49 <sbp> s/[BUG] [WEIRD]/[PERL6]/
14:25:14 <sbp> yeah well... well... you're being unprofessional!
14:25:22 <[bjoern]> Thank you.
14:25:25 <sbp> heh, heh
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14:29:41 <sbp> seriously though, I keep thinking it would be better if my site had only one page
14:30:15 <[bjoern]> Rids you of the url decision problem, for one thing.
14:30:39 <coax> just copy paste all the pages into one 2mb .html
14:31:03 <sbp> yeah, there you go
14:31:35 <coax> then at the top write 'your browser has a search function USE IT'
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14:32:17 <[bjoern]> That'd be insufficiently hilarious.
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14:32:31 <sbp> a good idea for a comedy webpage would be to have a normal page which then switches to monospace and shows the ostensible source from some random point onwards
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14:32:55 <[bjoern]> that'd been done
14:33:21 <sbp> probables, but it wouldn't be so rad as the way I'd do it
14:35:02 <[bjoern]> http://xkcd.com/unixkcd/ appears to be broken
14:35:14 <coax> sbp why do you want only one page anyway?
14:35:17 <coax> no more content?
14:35:35 <coax> just some contact info and brief overview of whatever then
14:35:48 <sbp> yeah, less hassle that way
14:35:57 <sbp> a lot of stuff gets put in other sites now anyway
14:36:02 <sbp> github, wikipedia, flickr, whatever
14:36:11 <sbp> and none of it is particularly essential
14:36:27 <sbp> what is a site for? I use OpenID and it lets people know my email address
14:36:32 <[bjoern]> They should invent something that let's you syndicate the distributed content back into your site.
14:36:57 <sbp> yeah, some kind of Web 2.0 management panel using SPARQL
14:36:58 <coax> i like having everything on my own server
14:37:08 <coax> i host all my own photos, blogs, music
14:37:13 <coax> i dont do 'the cloud'
14:37:29 <sbp> I would say the cloud is certainly bad to put anything of value in
14:37:36 <sbp> I'm just observing that I haven't put anything valuable in it
14:37:39 <sbp> so not much of a problem there
14:37:43 <[bjoern]> I am doing that too for the most of it. And I don't let people connect to my server nilly willy.
14:38:02 <[bjoern]> Which of your dozens of sites are we talking about anyway?
14:39:02 <[bjoern]> I like how your twitter account is #3 on google btw.
14:39:27 <sbp> yeah, I saw that too recently
14:39:30 <sbp> made me has a chox
14:39:39 <sbp> I'd probably keep inamidst.com
14:39:43 <sbp> but whatever really, doesn't matter
14:40:19 <[bjoern]> i did notice miscoranda now redirects.
14:41:19 <[bjoern]> "It is possible to work this out since 'Sean B. Palmer' is clearly a name" I would not be so sure...
14:41:34 <[bjoern]> My name at least has been confirmed in scientific research, as shown here the other day.
14:41:49 <sbp> that's just because I broke it
14:42:13 <sbp> please re-show
14:42:30 <[bjoern]> that would require me to find it
14:43:02 <sbp> see the first sentence of the second paragraph in http://books.google.com/books?id=oNX9VkFRtnIC&pg=PA287
14:43:06 <sbp> classic sentence there
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14:45:45 <coax> http://coax.intricate.org/
14:45:47 <coax> my site
14:46:07 <coax> for my music only
14:46:33 <sbp> ooh free musics
14:47:02 <coax> yea
14:47:21 <coax> i give away all my music now since selling it is impossible
14:47:48 <coax> i like it better anyway. art should be fre
14:47:49 <coax> e
14:48:10 <sbp> .wik Landonium
14:48:11 <phenny> Can't find anything in Wikipedia for "Landonium".
14:48:19 <[bjoern]> I wanted to send condolenzes regard your acquisition of a facebook account, but I can see that you've exploited it well, at least as far as the image goes.
14:48:56 <coax> landonium is a word i made up
14:49:14 <sbp> http://thepuzl.net/ ist bebörken
14:49:26 <sbp> linked to from fb:coax
14:49:27 <coax> that was the earlier domain
14:49:30 <sbp> ah
14:49:31 <[bjoern]> .gc "Sean Palmer's Voyage with the Fairies"
14:49:32 <phenny> "Sean Palmer's Voyage with the Fairies": 1
14:49:46 <sbp> COLLECTED BY TADHG MURPHY FROM WILLIAM BRADLEY
14:50:05 <coax> i must update the fb link
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14:51:46 <sbp> coax: thruflo's design is one of my favourites
14:51:47 <sbp> http://thruflo.com/wrong-problems/
14:51:54 <sbp> quite simple. = rox
14:52:30 <[bjoern]> "This video is a duplicate of a previously uploaded video."
14:52:53 <sbp> "This error message is a duplicate of a previously announced error message."
14:53:02 <sbp> used would have been better
14:53:08 <sbp> loggy: use used instead of announced
14:53:57 <sbp> .title http://googleblog.blogspot.com/2010/01/search-is-getting-more-social.html
14:53:58 <phenny> sbp: Official Google Blog: Search is getting more social
14:54:05 <sbp> via thruflo's posterous, heh
14:54:19 <sbp> "While we've been enjoying Social Search (and having babies), we've been hard at work on new features."
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14:56:40 <[bjoern]> I do like that your national archives archive your site.
14:57:10 <sbp> eh? what?
14:57:47 <[bjoern]> http://tna.europarchive.org/*/http://inamidst.com/sbp/
14:57:53 <[bjoern]> ~ http://webarchive.nationalarchives.gov.uk/20080806094328/http://inamidst.com/sbp/
14:57:54 <sbp> oh, huh. so they do
14:58:12 <sbp> wonder when that happened
14:58:19 <[bjoern]> You stopped being interesting two years ago though
14:58:43 <sbp> yeah, so I see
14:59:04 <[bjoern]> one of my sites they have aswell
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15:02:05 <sbp> http://www.webarchive.org.uk/ukwa/
15:02:36 <sbp> I love how badly http://www.webarchive.org.uk/ukwa/info/nominate/cy works
15:02:45 <[bjoern]> "Sean does not endorse this paper yet" - http://robustai.net/sailor/grammar/Quads.html
15:02:50 <sbp> even the translation link doesn't work
15:03:02 <sbp> mmm... quads
15:03:07 <[bjoern]> heresy
15:03:21 <sbp> sailor was epic awesome
15:03:23 <[bjoern]> it does have a submit button though
15:03:24 <sbp> http://robustai.net/sailor/
15:03:35 <sbp> note how it has an openprojects link
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15:05:07 <[bjoern]> .leo strandgut
15:05:09 <phenny> flotsam = das Strandgut
15:05:10 <phenny> flotsam and jetsam = das Strandgut
15:05:10 <phenny> jetsam = das Strandgut
15:05:11 <phenny> — http://dict.leo.org/ende?search=strandgut
15:05:19 <[bjoern]> .ety flotsam
15:05:20 <phenny> "c.1600, from Anglo-Fr. floteson, from O.Fr. flotaison 'a floating,' from floter 'to float' (of Gmc. origin) + -aison, from L. -ation(em)." - http://etymonline.com/?term=flotsam
15:05:36 <sbp> I almost used /flotsam/ and /jetsam/ as dirs on inamidst
15:05:47 <sbp> but I couldn't decide what should go in which
15:06:46 <[bjoern]> .ety jetsam
15:06:47 <phenny> "1560s, alteration of M.E. jetteson 'act of throwing goods overboard to lighten a ship,' from Anglo-Fr. getteson (see jettison)." - http://etymonline.com/?term=jetsam
15:07:01 <[bjoern]> Strandgut is cooler though
15:07:54 <sbp> yeah
15:08:04 <sbp> I like how it combines the two into one
15:08:09 <sbp> .leo gut
15:08:10 <phenny> commodity (comm.) = das Gut
15:08:11 <phenny> gear (naut.) = das Gut
15:08:12 <phenny> manor = das Gut
15:08:13 <phenny> — http://dict.leo.org/ende?search=gut
15:08:15 <sbp> ooh
15:08:17 <sbp> beachgear
15:13:46 <sbp> .leo Anzeige
15:13:48 <phenny> die Anzeige = ad (coll.)&#160;&#160;- short for 'advertisement', advert, advertisement (abbr.: ad), advice, announcement
15:13:49 <phenny> die Anzeige &#160;&#160;- Bildschirm = display (tech.), readout &#160;&#160;- screen
15:13:51 <phenny> die Anzeige &#160;&#160;- eines Messgerätes = indication &#160;&#160;- of a measuring instrument (metr.)
15:13:52 <phenny> — http://dict.leo.org/ende?search=Anzeige
15:13:55 <sbp> thanks, now you tell me
15:14:20 <[bjoern]> .leo Schlagseite
15:14:21 <phenny> die Schlagseite = list (naut.)
15:14:22 <phenny> Schlagseite haben = to heel, to list
15:14:23 <phenny> — http://dict.leo.org/ende?search=Schlagseite
15:15:05 <sbp> huh, nautical again
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15:31:38 <sbp> .g apng
15:31:39 <phenny> sbp: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/APNG
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16:16:09 <Monty> But what does JibberJim have to do with the price of fish?
16:19:33 <jessica> hi, phenny.
16:19:33 <phenny> jessica: 20 Apr 09:09Z <sbp> tell jessica that I have indeed heard of it
16:22:21 <sbp> looks like TEH SPAM?
16:23:11 * jessica points out her recent statements in this channel about the speculation on the twig and berries of all ten Doctors Who could appear to be spam, as well.
16:23:14 <[bjoern]> I can send you a couple of dozen facebook invites if you need more spam.
16:23:32 <[bjoern]> You didn't gmail them though.
16:23:40 <sbp> from all your biodroids?
16:23:56 <jessica> Or everything in Farmville.
16:23:59 <[bjoern]> .wik Biodroid
16:24:00 <jessica> WTF is with that, anyway?
16:24:01 <phenny> "Be An Interplanetary Spy is a series of twelve interactive children's science fiction books designed by Byron Preiss Visual Publications and first published by Bantam Books from 1983 to 1985." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Be_an_Interplanetary_Spy
16:24:06 <[bjoern]> .wik Meat puppet
16:24:06 <phenny> "Human body" - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Meat_puppet
16:24:08 <[bjoern]> hehe
16:24:12 <sbp> awesome
16:24:58 <[bjoern]> I read today the founder of the company that makes farmville and other facebook games said or did something or other.
16:25:13 <sbp> sex with Tiger Woods?
16:25:23 * jessica smirks.
16:25:45 <[bjoern]> or Tony the tiger perhaps? Or would you masturbate instead? hmm...
16:26:05 <sbp> Tony the Tiger prevents masturbation in a sugary way I presume
16:26:36 <[bjoern]> Actually the ads went "Lass ihn raus den Tiger" I think
16:27:20 <[bjoern]> phenny, "Lass ihn raus, den Tiger! Zeig ihnen, dass du es kannst!"?
16:27:21 <phenny> [bjoern]: "Let him get out, the tiger! Show them that you can do it!" (de to en, translate.google.com)
16:27:30 <sbp> GET YER TIGER OUT
16:27:36 <sbp> I need Google Chome IRC
16:27:59 <[bjoern]> or automagic translation
16:28:00 <Monty> http://www.flickr.com/photos/52154069@N00/503626
16:28:10 <[bjoern]> Or him.
16:28:18 <[bjoern]> He is cool though
16:28:27 <sbp> Robin Hood is excellent
16:32:39 <[bjoern]> whoa nice http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ff405926(v=VS.85).aspx
16:32:41 <[bjoern]> .title
16:32:42 <phenny> [bjoern]: Internet Explorer Standards Support Documents
16:32:48 * jessica laughs at something on the stereotypes of the British.
16:32:53 <jessica> "They probably fancy you a bit of a poof, actually, wasting perfectly good dosh on teeth whitening 'stead of a warm pint and a hot pigeon pasty. For all you non-British: We think they just called you a pussy, but we can't be sure (we half-suspect they make up good bit of their adorable-sounding slang on the spot)."
16:33:21 <[bjoern]> The documents are rather comprehensive
16:33:30 <sbp> we approve of pussy
16:34:35 <jessica> I don't doubt that you do. It's only until I met U.K./U.S. married couples and listened to them that I realised exactly how bizarre it is to try to understand someone else speaking your language.
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16:35:12 <[bjoern]> You mentioned food
16:37:40 <[bjoern]> Wow if all browsers had documentation like this
16:41:33 <[bjoern]> I am almost impressed and award one half cool point to Microsoft.
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16:42:36 <jessica> They unleashed IE4 on the world. You may wish to take a longer view.
16:43:01 <[bjoern]> I don't think IE4 was around that long
16:43:24 <[bjoern]> I think I went from (not using much) IE3 to IE 5(.5?) beta.
16:43:55 <[bjoern]> 5.0 beta it must have been
16:44:03 <[bjoern]> I quite possibly used NN4 for a while
16:46:09 <[bjoern]> 5.0 Beta 2 would fit the time
16:46:48 <sbp> I'm glad that you doubt doubt that we approve of pussy
16:48:31 <Arnia> I don't approve
16:49:00 <[bjoern]> .leo Kaiserschnitt
16:49:01 <phenny> der Kaiserschnitt = C-section (coll.), cesarean (med.)
16:49:04 <phenny> der Kaiserschnitt &#160;&#160;wiss.: Sectio caesarea = Caesarean &#160;&#160;also: Caesarian, Cesarian, Cesarean (med.), Caesarean (also: Caesarian, Cesarian, Cesarean) section (med.), Cesarean section (med.)
16:49:05 <phenny> abdominaler Kaiserschnitt = abdominal caesarean section (med.), abdominal delivery (med.)
16:49:06 <phenny> — http://dict.leo.org/ende?search=Kaiserschnitt
16:49:19 <sbp> Arnia: why, allergic to their fur?
16:49:33 <sbp> .leo schnitt
16:49:35 <phenny> crop = der Schnitt
16:49:36 <phenny> cross section = der Schnitt
16:49:36 <phenny> cut &#160;&#160;also&#160; (textil.) = der Schnitt
16:49:37 <phenny> — http://dict.leo.org/ende?search=schnitt
16:49:38 <Arnia> I only get south american cats
16:49:40 <sbp> kingcrop?
16:49:42 <sbp> ah
16:49:48 <sbp> latina pussy is good, yeah
16:53:03 <sbp> http://www.amazon.com/wishlist/get-button
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16:54:03 <[bjoern]> a bit old skool.
16:55:31 <sbp> yeah, apparently it's "lame"
16:55:47 <[bjoern]> .leo lamm
16:55:49 <phenny> &nbsp;lamb = das Lamm &#160;- Pl. die Lämmer
16:55:50 <phenny> &nbsp;lamb (cook.) = Lamm &#160;&#160;- kurz für 'Lammfleisch' &#160;ohne Artikel &#160;kein Plural
16:55:51 <phenny> &nbsp;ewe lamb (zool.) = weibliches Lamm
16:55:52 <phenny> — http://dict.leo.org/ende?search=lamm
16:56:42 <[bjoern]> Now that I'm on github i could branch phenny off and fix it
16:57:04 <sbp> yup
16:57:20 <sbp> I think you can even do it in the browser entirely
16:57:20 <Monty> up removes view key away the peir idea yet (e.g. a prominent figure out tap that work things, we MUST FIND THAT SERIES OF THE FREEMASONS in de.wp? or someone needs libmozjs-dev but nothing wrong with http auth, when Gabe
16:57:35 <sbp> we MUST FIND THAT SERIES OF THE FREEMASONS in de.wp, yes
16:58:16 <[bjoern]> We could co-publish a mathematical paper on the matter and improve our erdös numbers.
16:58:29 <sbp> good idea
16:58:50 <sbp> wait, you want us to improve our erdos numbers by working on something together?
16:58:55 <sbp> one of us is not going to improve
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16:59:06 <[bjoern]> not immediately.
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17:01:16 <[bjoern]> Unless we trick someone with a lower number than the min of ours into collaborating.
17:01:31 <[bjoern]> (we could also just claim they worked with us on it)
17:01:43 <[bjoern]> I do think though there are easier topics
17:02:24 <sbp> than that series of freemasons?
17:02:31 <sbp> well, what would you like to publish a mathematical paper on?
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17:03:39 <[bjoern]> We could let Arnia write it.
17:04:27 <[bjoern]> Although I am not sure I want to be affiliated with something that makes sense.
17:04:56 <sbp> depends what his erdos number is I guess
17:05:02 <sbp> what's your erdos number, Arnia?
17:05:52 <Arnia> Probably quite high
17:10:59 <Arnia> http://norvig.com/python-iaq.html?a
17:12:32 <sbp> think I've seen this, I remember the cout trick at least
17:12:59 <sbp> oh, and the zip(*m) trick
17:12:59 <[bjoern]> It's all written in an obscure Perl6 dialect.
17:13:33 <sbp> .gc 0.007KB in bytes
17:13:33 <phenny> 0.007KB in bytes: 1
17:13:40 <sbp> .c 0.007KB in bytes
17:13:41 <phenny> 0.007 kilobytes = 7.16800 bytes
17:14:49 <sbp> oh, I remember the abstract thing too
17:15:14 <sbp> "If u cn rd ths, u cn gt a jb in fncnl prg (if thr wr any)."
17:16:25 <[bjoern]> I made a script the other day that randomizes the letters between the first and last of each word. I believe it was one line long.
17:16:53 <[bjoern]> Reason being of course that you can read it as long as the first and last char are in their place, but that's Alltagswissen anyway.
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17:18:43 <Arnia> .title http://evanculver.posterous.com/resignation-20
17:18:45 <phenny> Arnia: evanculver's posterous - Home
17:19:11 <sbp> [bjoern]: I remember seeing a perl one liner which did that somewhere
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17:19:20 <sbp> called mangle. but a quick search on Google doesn't reveal it
17:19:53 <[bjoern]> should be a simple s///eg though the shuffle would be a bit long in there
17:20:12 <sbp> http://www.elvis.ac.nz/brain?ScramblingLetters isn't it
17:20:24 <[bjoern]> could sort with rand, not sure perl likes that
17:23:40 <sbp> tried searching Swhack logs
17:23:44 <sbp> but our use of .mangle doesn't help
17:25:50 <[bjoern]> hehe
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18:02:56 <archels> sbp: What does noddwyr mean?
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18:03:35 <sbp> sponsors
18:04:21 <archels> I gathered that from context, but... *noddwyr*?
18:04:34 <sbp> hmm?
18:04:41 <archels> the word
18:04:42 <sbp> Arnia: no such post!
18:04:49 <sbp> yeah, the word means sponsors
18:05:01 <sbp> in Welsh of course
18:05:08 <sbp> which is a language I speak
18:05:08 <archels> ah!
18:05:11 <sbp> a very, very little
18:07:37 <[bjoern]> .wik Oland
18:07:38 <phenny> "Öland (help·info) is the second largest Swedish island and the smallest of the traditional provinces of Sweden. Öland has an area of 1,342 km² and is located in the Baltic Sea just off the coast of Småland." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oland
18:07:45 <[bjoern]> wong
18:07:52 <sbp> 1,343?
18:08:03 <[bjoern]> .wik Oland (Hallig)
18:08:04 <phenny> "The Halligen (singular Hallig) are ten small German islands without protective dikes in the North Frisian Islands on Schleswig-Holstein's Wadden Sea-North Sea coast in the district of Nordfriesland." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hallig
18:08:08 <[bjoern]> fail
18:08:24 <[bjoern]> oh my the actual article is more fail
18:08:32 <[bjoern]> .wik Oland (Frisian island)
18:08:33 <phenny> "Oland (Danish: Øland, North Frisian: Ualöönist) is a small hallig which is connected by a narrow gauge railway to the mainland and to hallig Langeneß." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oland_(Frisian_island)
18:08:41 <[bjoern]> (fullquote)
18:08:56 <sbp> only YOU have the power to change wikipedia
18:09:21 <sbp> some of these islands aren't even linked!
18:10:23 <[bjoern]> .gc "This sentence is a stub"
18:10:23 <phenny> "This sentence is a stub": 0
18:10:47 <sbp> .gc "This stub is a stub"
18:10:47 <phenny> "This stub is a stub": 1
18:10:53 <sbp> .g "This stub is a stub"
18:10:54 <phenny> sbp: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ticket_(receipt)
18:11:04 <sbp> hahaha
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18:59:46 <BigJibby> .gc 42
18:59:46 <phenny> 42: 238,000,000
18:59:58 <BigJibby> .gc 47
18:59:58 <phenny> 47: 223,000,000
19:00:31 <BigJibby> .gc 45
19:00:33 <phenny> 45: 273,000,000
19:01:40 <BigJibby> .gc " 42 "
19:01:41 <phenny> " 42 ": 273,000,000
19:01:50 <BigJibby> .gc " 47 "
19:01:50 <phenny> " 47 ": 258,000,000
19:01:59 <BigJibby> .gc " 45 "
19:02:00 <phenny> " 45 ": 333,000,000
19:02:09 <BigJibby> :/
19:02:26 <BigJibby> phenny, do you jusr randomly select a number?
19:03:01 <BigJibby> .gc \w47\w
19:03:02 <phenny> \w47\w: 59,900
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19:13:43 <[bjoern]> random
19:13:43 <Monty> Random number: 47
19:14:00 <[bjoern]> sounds more like you are
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19:28:10 <[bjoern]> "A university professor has developed a mathematical formula which, he claims, shows Germany will win the 2010 World Cup in South Africa this June." - http://www.channelnewsasia.com/stories/afp_sports/view/1051721/1/.html
19:28:34 <sbp> a German university professor?
19:28:52 <[bjoern]> apparently so
19:28:54 <sbp> oh look, University of Dortmund
19:29:30 <sbp> smart move if he's right
19:32:08 <[bjoern]> .leo posthum
19:32:09 <phenny> posthum &#160;&#160;auch: postum = posthumous &#160;a., posthumously &#160;adv.
19:32:10 <phenny> — http://dict.leo.org/ende?search=posthum
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19:33:18 <[bjoern]> .title http://www.mercurynews.com/ci_14928095?source=rss&nclick_check=1
19:33:19 <phenny> [bjoern]: Germany awards medals to 14 US soldiers for Afghanistan battle - San Jose Mercury News
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20:31:39 <[bjoern]> https://kc.mcafee.com/corporate/index?page=content&id=KB68780
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20:44:47 <Monty> it's theresaanna!
20:45:00 <theresaanna> it's Monty!
20:45:00 <Monty> ♥
20:45:15 <theresaanna> I love you, too Monty!
20:45:15 <Monty> Do you love anyone else ?
20:45:21 <theresaanna> No, just you.
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21:21:25 <[bjoern]> theresaanna and Monty, sitting in a tree...
21:21:25 <Monty> What does that suggest to you ?
21:21:33 * theresaanna blushes
21:21:37 <[bjoern]> Would you really want to know Monty?
21:21:44 <Monty> Pictures speaks for current system, much as for 'advertisement', advert, advertisement (abbr.: ad), advice, announcement
21:22:10 <sbp> I think he wants to advertise his love in the NYT
21:22:24 <theresaanna> like a wedding announcement!
21:22:30 <theresaanna> Monty and I are getting married
21:22:31 <Monty> s/[BUG] [WEIRD]/[PERL6]/
21:22:42 <[bjoern]> Not sure there is much space between NYT and MSN
21:22:47 <sbp> you'll have to get used to him programming on your honeymoon
21:23:15 <theresaanna> that's ok, I may be doing the same
21:23:40 <[bjoern]> Programming the lovebo(a)t
21:23:42 <theresaanna> Monty, where are you going to take me on our honeymoon?
21:23:42 <Monty> Why do you ask ?
21:24:02 <sbp> perhaps he wants it to be a surprise
21:24:05 <sbp> my guess is Slough
21:24:08 <sbp> either that or Swindon
21:24:15 <[bjoern]> Or Strandgut.
21:24:21 <sbp> oh could be
21:27:53 * theresaanna wants jeanniecool to be my maid of honor
21:28:59 <theresaanna> s/my/her
21:29:42 * [bjoern] wonders how that relates to penis.
21:30:38 <sbp> honor is penis's second cousin three times removed
21:30:49 <sbp> on its mother's side
21:31:07 <[bjoern]> .leo Schwippschwager
21:31:08 <phenny> &nbsp;der Schwippschwager = &nbsp;brother of one's brother-in-law, &nbsp;brother of one's sister-in-law, &nbsp;husband of one's sister-in-law
21:31:09 <phenny> — http://dict.leo.org/ende?search=Schwippschwager
21:31:13 <sbp> we'll put in the groom section to pad out the numbers
21:31:21 <sbp> *+it
21:31:35 <sbp> Monty: anyone else you want to invite?
21:31:37 <Monty> GOODBYE MY PONY ISLAND GAAAA-AAAA-AAALLL
21:31:51 * sbp hopes theresaanna isn't from Pony Island
21:32:05 <[bjoern]> Are you saying Monty had another?
21:32:08 <Monty> Cause you looking for flapjax directly?
21:32:23 <[bjoern]> Well, ... let's not talk about me, Monty.
21:32:23 <Monty> looking
21:33:45 <theresaanna> Monty, are you cheating on me?
21:33:47 <Monty> :) I"m trying that is.
21:34:46 <sbp> ...hehe
21:35:16 <sbp> also hehe: http://i44.tinypic.com/ksvhl.jpg
21:35:22 <sbp> (animated GIF despite the .jpg)
21:36:14 <[bjoern]> Girls. They know how to fit in.
21:36:29 <theresaanna> how can you admire cute and talented children at a time like this?
21:36:36 <[bjoern]> Asians. Good with tight spaces.
21:36:45 <theresaanna> my beloved Monty is cheating on me with some Pony Island whore
21:36:48 <Monty> squashing happiness fantasises about figurative oven-gloves!
21:37:02 <theresaanna> sshhh! you weren't supposed to tell them about my oven-glove fetish!
21:37:05 <sbp> cheating might be understating it, on that evidence
21:37:18 <[bjoern]> food related fetishes I could approve of.
21:37:30 <sbp> well the oven-gloves are used in the preparation of food
21:37:34 <sbp> usually, I mean
21:37:35 <[bjoern]> As far as I can tell, Monty only tried to so far.
21:37:43 <Monty> sucky ten billion people were based on creating a ddoc are probably still setting it took great didn't die Anzeige &#160;&#160;- Hunderasse = [#view{}]
21:38:08 <[bjoern]> Which brings us back to zoophilia.
21:38:30 <sbp> .title http://www.ecouterre.com/16194/the-latest-outrageous-headgear-braided-pompadours-from-human-hair/
21:38:31 <phenny> sbp: The Latest Outrageous Headgear: Braided Pompadours From Human Hair? | Ecouterre
21:38:53 <sbp> I suspect his whore looks something like this, for the record
21:39:33 <[bjoern]> Could do worse
21:39:45 <sbp> any site with "DIY | VEGAN STYLE" in its navbar gets my... what's that word which isn't approval but isn't disapproval again?
21:40:01 <[bjoern]> ambivalence?
21:40:58 <sbp> no, much more raging than that
21:41:04 <sbp> it's like raging ambivalence
21:41:17 <sbp> staunchly neutral. coming out absolutely all guns blazing on being on the fence
21:41:27 <[bjoern]> There is a word for that.
21:41:35 <sbp> MOTHERS LOCK UP YOUR DAUGHTERS, WE'RE PULLING OUT A CAN OF BEING UTTERLY NEUTRAL ON THIS ISSUE
21:41:37 <[bjoern]> Not sure which language though.
21:42:10 <[bjoern]> speaking of locking up daughters, is eurovision this month, or next?
21:42:25 <[bjoern]> next
21:42:40 <sbp> http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4044/4541373052_c525ac5d67.jpg
21:42:47 <sbp> not sure what this is about, but it looks cute
21:42:59 <sbp> something to do with food perhaps
21:43:06 <sbp> though I don't really like eating things with googly eyes
21:43:35 <sbp> also it doesn't know how to spell "aubergine"
21:43:51 <jessica> ...
21:43:53 <[bjoern]> doesn't list food with actual organs
21:43:56 <jessica> Thanks for the heads-up, sbp.
21:44:31 <sbp> you're welcome
21:44:34 <sbp> (for what?)
21:45:28 <[bjoern]> the broccoli reminds me of a ducktales episode
21:45:30 <sbp> (ah, that)
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21:47:31 <sbp> .title http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/election_2010/8635180.stm
21:47:33 <phenny> sbp: BBC News - David Cameron egged during a visit to a college in Cornwall
21:47:38 <sbp> extended video coverage, actually showing the impact this time
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21:49:04 <[bjoern]> uh, some people out there in our nation don't have shoes to throw
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21:49:53 <sbp> no maps to the shoes, that's the problem
21:51:05 <[bjoern]> some origami should turn a map into a shoe
21:52:43 <sbp> somebody should invent a fold-it-yourself kevlar shoe
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21:53:31 <[bjoern]> I like how en:Kevlar mentions mooring.
21:55:44 <sbp> huh, Vectran is pretty good
21:55:50 <sbp> hadn't seen that one before
21:57:07 <[bjoern]> There goes your opportunity to firmly establish the "mooring?" meme.
21:57:59 <sbp> mooring? meme?
21:58:12 <sbp> I mean '"moorning? meme"?' of course
21:58:30 <[bjoern]> bad rescue attempt
21:58:57 <sbp> well a mooring? meme? meme is the next best thing to a mooring? meme
21:59:31 <[bjoern]> toomuchinterpunctuationformytastes.
21:59:51 <sbp> float the first one to the end then
21:59:56 <sbp> ?mooring meme?
22:00:01 <sbp> hmm
22:00:05 <sbp> ?           mooring meme?
22:00:06 <[bjoern]> I know what's next
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22:00:11 <sbp> moo?ring meme?
22:00:17 <sbp> mooring meme?              ?
22:00:25 <sbp> doesn't naturally fit anywhere
22:00:31 <sbp> but I do like the idea of mooring being "moo-ring"
22:01:16 <[bjoern]> ¿mooring meme? would be more symmetrical at least
22:01:50 <sbp> ¿ǝɯǝɯ meme?
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22:02:07 <[bjoern]> you mean like http://www.pixelshifter.de/photoweb/pw_pictures/nasenring.jpg ?
22:02:15 <sbp> see also http://me.me/
22:02:44 <sbp> does that cow have clover on its nose?
22:02:48 <[bjoern]> I am not sure which linker is more distorbing
22:02:55 <[bjoern]> it does look like it
22:02:56 <sbp> about even, yeah
22:03:19 <sbp> note that I got meme/sbp
22:03:26 <sbp> and I posted exactly one message
22:03:49 <sbp> http://meme.yahoo.com/sbp/p/x8vVsVB/
22:03:59 <sbp> cf. my one twitter message, posted in 2007
22:04:16 <sbp> http://twitter.com/sbp/status/10436651
22:04:55 <[bjoern]> I like the number id better than the letter id
22:05:01 <sbp> yeah
22:05:25 <sbp> also a bit confused about why you'd register me.me and then use meme.yahoo.com
22:05:50 <sbp> and anyway, at least the library of congress are going to archive my one twitter message
22:06:00 <sbp> whereas Yahoo! will probably just pull meme from the web like they did geocities
22:06:09 <[bjoern]> http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:XN_Bos_taurus_00.jpg is pretty badass.
22:06:21 <[bjoern]> cookies
22:06:36 <sbp> that nut and bolt makes absolutely no sense
22:06:55 <[bjoern]> Do you mean the Flügelmutter ?
22:07:05 <sbp> yup
22:07:19 <[bjoern]> (great transition back to nut/mother there btw)
22:07:25 <sbp> oh, also, we found out that when you change your data.gov.uk profile pix, it keeps the old one. so you can... hehe
22:07:34 <sbp> so you can use it as a random image hosting service
22:08:14 <[bjoern]> box taurus appears to have another clover
22:08:31 <[bjoern]> it could be some people use cow images to pass on secret messages
22:08:46 <sbp> yeah, I was going to suggest that the photographers must have placed it there
22:09:33 <sbp> I was going to suggest also that the cow looks like it's ruminating on something profound
22:09:39 <sbp> but it's too late in the evening for puns like that
22:10:15 <[bjoern]> nl.wp has http://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bestand:Uri-coat_of_arms.svg which is kinda more badass
22:10:18 <sbp> on this note, I'm stepping away from my memebox for the evening
22:10:31 <sbp> woah
22:10:39 <[bjoern]> i was pondering the same thing
22:10:42 <sbp> phenny: "bestand"?
22:10:46 <phenny> sbp: "File" (nl to en, translate.google.com)
22:10:58 <[bjoern]> .leo Bestand
22:11:00 <phenny> &nbsp;der Bestand = &nbsp;asset, &nbsp;business in force, &nbsp;constancy, &nbsp;continuance, &nbsp;continued existence
22:11:01 <phenny> &nbsp;der Bestand &#160;&#160;- bes. an Effekten = &nbsp;holding
22:11:02 <phenny> &nbsp;der Bestand &#160;- Pl. die Bestände = &nbsp;stock
22:11:02 <phenny> — http://dict.leo.org/ende?search=Bestand
22:11:05 <sbp> right, COMMENCE ANTI-MEMEBOX PROXIMITY PROCEDURES
22:11:07 <sbp> 'night!
22:11:10 <[bjoern]> night
22:11:11 <Monty> night
22:11:16 <sbp> 'night
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22:19:51 <jessica> see you on the morrow.
22:24:40 * nogagplz sells jessica on ebay
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22:36:49 <[bjoern]> phenny, tell sbp http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/04/21/ken_thompson_take_our_test/
22:36:50 <phenny> [bjoern]: I'll pass that on when sbp is around.
22:38:54 <[bjoern]> .c 1 CAD in USD
22:38:54 <phenny> 1 Canadian dollar = 1.0017 U.S. dollars
22:42:21 <jessica> who on earth thinks I'm saleable, and moreover, who thinks it's worth the listing fees?
22:42:51 <[bjoern]> I do think you are worth quite a bit.
22:43:23 <jessica> Ah, Bjoern, you're so kind to flatter me. :)
22:43:51 <[bjoern]> It's rare, but I do have my moments.
22:44:19 <jessica> The Swabian is very good with flattery, but also has a penchant for saying things that make women want to slap him across the face.
22:46:07 * [bjoern] ... and have her enjoy it. that is probably a speciality of mine, too.
22:46:38 <jessica> Well, sir, I do beg that you recall that there are *two* women in the house that he is responsible for.
22:46:52 <jessica> Oh, and of course, my two daughters as well.
22:47:16 <jessica> A common phrase from family dinners from one of the adult women is, "Could you kick him, please?"
22:47:33 <jessica> (The children are never delegated to this task, although they watch with amusement.)
22:47:42 <[bjoern]> not much of a DIY household, I take it
22:48:00 <jessica> Well, it depends on angles and how we're seated. :P
22:48:23 <jessica> we have a round table for six, so he's completely capable of getting out of range.
22:49:07 <[bjoern]> Another problem widespread adoption of bending robots would solve.
22:49:38 <jessica> We actually have a friend, named Benjamin and commonly called Ben, who is referred to as "Bender" by our two children.
22:50:27 <jessica> He can consume quite remarkable amounts of tequila.
22:51:15 <jessica> Re: Glasgow: The rate of alcohol-related death is also the UK's highest.
22:51:35 <jessica> That doesn't seem like much to an American, but we forgot the culture of drunkenly headbutting someone until their nose is shattered.
22:51:45 * [bjoern] could, too, if he doesn't have to pay for it
22:52:17 <[bjoern]> You forgot?
22:53:18 <jessica> Americans consider it a bit gauche and embarrassing to be drunk, except for certain holidays.
22:53:42 <jessica> Bear in mind that we, like Germany, are very much an auto-related culture.
22:54:11 <jessica> So being able to get home matters, and penalties against driving under the influence are strong enough that most people take those laws seriously.
22:54:55 * jessica points Bjoern at: http://jpallan.tumblr.com/post/508513250/aldi-is-basically-a-crossover-between-a-feverishly
22:56:26 <[bjoern]> ... and we like it, apparently.
22:56:49 <jessica> Nowadays, Aldi is the only place where Germans can feel some kind of unity with their fellow citizens.
22:56:53 <[bjoern]> I am rather unsure if you studied the drunken american thing in sufficient detail
22:57:07 <[bjoern]> You can do that at Aldi?
22:57:49 <jessica> according to the blog I quoted, sure.
22:58:12 * jessica shrugs.
22:58:30 <jessica> One rarely drinks at lunch, and drinking with work colleagues is a no-more-than-2-beers thing.
22:58:57 * [bjoern] notes that we didn't have oil and car companies rape our public transport and urban management, so dui is less a concern, I'd think
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22:59:17 <jessica> Well, that and the size of the place, Bjoern.
22:59:30 <[bjoern]> No word about unity in that post, far as i can tell!
22:59:50 <jessica> it links to a blog which goes on about the unity.
23:00:53 <jessica> "Elite German people have a very delicate and complicated relationship with Bild and the rainbow press as a whole."
23:00:54 <[bjoern]> I muchly dispute that then
23:01:15 <[bjoern]> That is more accurate
23:02:25 <jessica> "With its perfect blend of breaking news, numerous pictorials of questionable relevance, and inane-yet-wordy ramblings about all things adolescent, Spiegel Online has connected to the elite German mind to a degree that wasn’t deemed possible before."
23:02:31 <jessica> http://www.ichwerdeeinberliner.com/21-keeping-up-with-the-news
23:03:26 <[bjoern]> these days it is commonly referred to as "former news magazine"
23:04:07 <[bjoern]> they now rather head the "OMG TERROR WE WILL ALL DIE" movement, and other things on that level.
23:08:02 * jessica is reading about Munich being seen as incredibly backwards and Berlin being seen as incredibly hip.
23:09:02 <jessica> I don't get it. I mean, I get it, but we bombed the place flat in WWII and every American points out that it was rebuilt as a fairly good imitation of Minneapolis.
23:09:13 <jessica> Where the hell were the Altbau buildings that *weren't* destroyed?
23:09:30 <jessica> I mean, it's not Dresden, but isn't it kind of difficult to keep enough Altbau buildings for the demand?
23:09:56 <[bjoern]> Laptop und Lederhosen was their Leitmotiv some time ago
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23:10:57 * [bjoern] 's impression is that many people writing about Berlin write things they read or heard elsewhere, cre8radix has more first hand experience than I do
23:11:11 * jessica nods.
23:11:18 <jessica> I may get a chance to find out.
23:11:36 * jessica is very confused about why Nokia's largest office is in Berlin and not Helsinki.
23:11:39 <[bjoern]> I was, like, 3 times in berlin. maybe 4.
23:11:44 <jessica> And why the company language is English.
23:12:39 <[bjoern]> It's only an hour from here, maybe I should give it another try...
23:14:53 <jessica> I feel like if I needed hipsters pretending poverty, I could just stay here.
23:15:19 * jessica is in her city's version of an Altbau building and in an "edgy" neighbourhood. Sort of.
23:15:36 <[bjoern]> Usually hip is just an euphemism for annoying, used by annoying people.
23:16:16 <jessica> It's not so bad that you get mugged or people are drug dealing in the street, but enough that you scowl enviously when you hear what other people paid for their houses.
23:34:44 <[bjoern]> "But have they gone too far this time with a depiction of the Prophet Mohammed in a bear suit?" - CNN on Southpark
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23:47:35 <[bjoern]> phenny, tell sbp http://yro.slashdot.org/story/10/04/21/2156215/
23:47:35 <phenny> [bjoern]: I'll pass that on when sbp is around.