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11:39:20 <sbp> wow, France have completely fallen apart
11:39:25 <sbp> .title http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2010/jun/20/france-raymond-domenech-nicolas-anelka
11:39:26 <phenny> sbp: World Cup 2010: France revolt leaves Raymond Domenech high and dry | Football | The Guardian
11:41:05 <sbp> haha, I'm watching North Korea vs. Portugal
11:41:11 <sbp> and I'm actually cheering on North Korea
11:41:13 <sbp> that's hilarious
11:58:37 <sbp> Portugal 1-0 North Korea
11:58:57 <sbp> North Korea have had way more (often good) shots though
12:08:16 <sbp> commentator saying the Portuguese coach was "doing his fruit"
12:41:02 * nslater does his fruit
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13:09:40 <[bjoern]> Now they are all http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/picturegalleries/picturesoftheday/7835000/Pictures-of-the-day-17-June-2010.html?image=13
13:17:23 <[bjoern]> what's up with this http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=29.39646,6.9963217&ie=UTF8&ll=29.392645,7.011337&spn=0.117109,0.217152&t=h&z=13
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13:33:09 <[bjoern]> haha http://www.guardian.co.uk/business/2010/jun/20/radioactive-waste-olympic-site
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13:36:32 <[bjoern]> "Gulf disaster needs divine intervention as man's efforts have been futile. Gulf lawmakers designate today Day of Prayer for solution/miracle" - http://twitter.com/SarahPalinUSA/statuses/16622429904
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14:16:45 <[bjoern]> .c (7554731 + 8131759)/(31604560*2)
14:16:45 <phenny> (7 554 731 + 8 131 759) / (31 604 560 * 2) = 0.248168144
14:24:44 <laplink> There are… numbers… in my backscroll.
14:24:57 <laplink> This… disturbs… me.
14:25:39 <[bjoern]> I love it when a plan comes together.
14:29:48 <laplink> .gc "The female anus, suitably aestheticised, crops up rather a lot"
14:29:49 <phenny> "The female anus, suitably aestheticised, crops up rather a lot": 1
14:29:55 <laplink> .g "The female anus, suitably aestheticised, crops up rather a lot"
14:29:55 <phenny> laplink: http://www.lrb.co.uk/v32/n12/terry-eagleton/count-the-commas
14:30:24 <clsn> I keep reading that as anaesthetized.
14:31:17 <[bjoern]> Well I suppose that is no less true, if you can do it suitably.
14:31:58 <laplink> .title http://ios.e-lite.org/
14:31:59 <phenny> laplink: iOS Firmware
14:32:05 <laplink> (ooh!)
14:32:37 <laplink> I don't really know why I'm excited about this, I have ready access to the developer GM version.
14:33:27 <[bjoern]> I can assure you I do not know either.
14:34:06 <laplink> Hell, I don't even really care about most of the new stuff in “iOS” 4.
14:34:34 <[bjoern]> s/most of the new stuff in//
14:36:18 <laplink> So not planning on jumping on the bandwagon and getting some of that cheap AppStore cash then?
14:37:51 <[bjoern]> Well I did think about that, but I estimated it would take considerable time to recover the investment into getting a developer account and possibly even hardware to test if there is no suitable emulator.
14:39:29 <laplink> Ah, good point.
14:40:07 <laplink> Developer accounts are $99 nowadays, but you would need a Mac (mini would probably do) to do any actual programming for it.
14:40:32 <laplink> Having an actual device would also be a plus. Entirely optional, but a plus.
14:40:57 <laplink> Judging by some of the apps on there, a scary number of developers consider it very optional.
14:41:00 <[bjoern]> I thought you can now program from Windows, wasn't there, like, Ballmer on WWDC telling us all about it or something?
14:41:35 <laplink> A slightly more crackhead than usual rumour had it Visual Studio would amass iPhone support.
14:42:02 <laplink> “Alas” this did not happen.
14:44:44 <[bjoern]> Google suggests people do manage to work around that requirement, but that'd be an even better point then.
14:45:14 <[bjoern]> It's curious though that you should not be able to make apps *on* your iThings.
14:49:12 <laplink> They're designed to be more or less hermetically sealed, and accessible for grandma, auntie, etc.
14:49:38 <laplink> They're also a bitch to type any significant amount of text on.
14:50:40 <[bjoern]> Well, I'd expect you can throw in some remote desktop server, after going around whatever Apple put in place to stop you at least.
14:51:22 <[bjoern]> VirtualBox also once supported MacOSX as guest, but Apple changed its license terms and they pulled it out, if I recall correctly.
14:52:44 <laplink> I think it's back in, and there's a trick in that even VMWare and Paralells can run Mac OS X _Server_ in a VM.
14:53:10 <laplink> And you can develop just fine on Server, the differences are minimal (bundled software, mostly).
14:54:12 <[bjoern]> Yeah, the idea of a MacOSX .server. makes me kinda giggle like japanese schoolgirl really.
14:54:33 <laplink> I don't think you can get any kind of remote control _server_ on an iThingie short of jailbreaking it (which I seriously don't recommend), but you can of course have a client on there (I use RDP, ICA, SSH, and VNC clients on my iPhone).
14:54:49 <laplink> Oh it's a nice enough server for what it's intended to do.
14:55:06 <[bjoern]> Seems this is still current, VirtualBox allows MacOSX only when running on a Mac.
14:55:23 <laplink> The XServe hardware is even kind of nice, if in no way competitive with HP or Dell servers.
14:56:10 <laplink> Hmm. That's a bit odd.
14:56:52 <laplink> I don't immediately see any compelling technical reason for it; and if licensing allows it on a Mac it'd be weird if they didn't allow it elsewhere too.
14:57:42 <[bjoern]> Well I use Windows Server for what it is intended to do. That is, I use it as a workstation os.
14:57:58 <laplink> heh heh
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17:11:14 <laplink> Aaaaand… it's out!
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19:31:09 <[bjoern]> "Can someone explain in plain English what the purpose of Google Wave is?"
19:31:15 <[bjoern]> "No."
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20:21:33 <[bjoern]> "VLC 1.1 Forced To Drop Shoutcast Due To AOL Anti-OSS Provision" wtf?
20:21:59 <[bjoern]> Oh I take it it's probably the station listing or something, as the protocol is dead simple
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21:11:38 <[bjoern]> Well that Portugal : NK game must have been something
21:11:43 <[bjoern]> Also, Spain won!
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21:22:50 <sbp> first half, North Korea did very well
21:22:56 <sbp> looked as though they might even clinch a win
21:22:59 <sbp> second half. oh dear
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21:23:18 <sbp> the Ronaldo goal was annoyingly brilliant
21:23:55 <[bjoern]> It was not exceedingly exciting, just as you'd expect in a 0:7 game?
21:23:59 <[bjoern]> The goal I mean
21:25:22 <sbp> not exceedingly exciting. annoyingly brilliant
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21:29:13 <sbp> also the Spain penalty miss was great
21:33:03 <[bjoern]> So you going to watch Slovenia v England, or US v Algeria? They are at the same time.
21:33:37 <[bjoern]> England gets the german referee.
21:34:12 <[bjoern]> "He was questioned for his performance overseeing the Chile—Argentina match in the 2007 FIFA U-20 World Cup, having "lost control of the match early" [1] and for issuing seven yellow cards (out of nine) and two red cards against the Chilean team during the match.[2] In total he issued 53 fouls, 30 of which he charged to Chile.[3]"
21:34:56 <sbp> the US vs. Algeria game will watch itself
21:35:14 <sbp> so he doesn't like Chile
21:35:18 <[bjoern]> But watching England might be bad for your health
21:35:20 <sbp> does he also not like Slovenia by any chance?
21:35:24 <sbp> well, yeah
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21:37:20 <[bjoern]> We get the ref that did your match against the U.S.
21:37:40 <[bjoern]> "During the 2006 FIFA World Cup, Simon officiated at three matches. In the second-round match between Germany and Sweden, he came under criticism from BBC pundits for sending off Sweden's Teddy Lučić for a second bookable offence. He also controversially grinned at Lučić after pulling out the red card.[1]"
21:38:11 <sbp> oh yeah, I noticed a ref doing that in this World Cup
21:38:17 <sbp> can't remember what game it was, but a recent game
21:38:21 <sbp> might have been the Dutch match
21:38:32 <sbp> booked someone and was grinning his head off at him
21:38:38 <sbp> "HAHA BOOKED YOU"
21:40:00 <[bjoern]> Hehe, Chile also has the most yellow cards this time around (Serbia same amount plus one red)
21:40:30 <sbp> they're just not used to it being so cold
21:40:46 <Talliesin> http://www.facebook.com/pages/Jon-Hanna/108199129225822 for those of ye on facebook
21:40:46 <sbp> apparently this has been the coldest World Cup ever
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21:41:00 <Talliesin> Trying to overcome my modesty and do the self-promotion thing.
21:41:28 <[bjoern]> That's a good first step.
21:41:45 <[bjoern]> You might add some spin to it, like, you are the most modest person ever.
21:41:57 <sbp> second step, steal all the doormats in town
21:42:40 <[bjoern]> except one, people will then blame its owner.
21:43:11 <sbp> no way they'll just burn down the house with the most entrances in town
21:43:16 <sbp> so just make sure you don't live in that one
21:43:25 <sbp> then nobody will have any reason to be suspicious of you
21:43:49 <[bjoern]> You should really be the first to get light and pitchfork and head the movement.
21:44:05 <[bjoern]> As the most modest of the lot, you're the perfect leader for this kind of thing.
21:44:06 <sbp> I don't know who has the most entrances in town
21:44:27 <[bjoern]> But your followers don't know that.
21:45:33 <sbp> genius!
21:45:56 <sbp> what happens when we don't find the house though?
21:46:04 <sbp> I mean if they actually wanted to go through with it
21:46:10 <sbp> which they wouldn't, because they're fickle
21:46:12 <[bjoern]> Bring a random number generator.
21:47:01 <[bjoern]> "Silence! I must consult with the Magic 8-Ball!"
21:49:04 <sbp> what if the 8-ball suggests the orphanage or something unacceptable?
21:49:20 <[bjoern]> Then it's the house behind it.
21:49:58 <sbp> what if that's the house of a famous jazz pianist? actually nevermind, no famous jazz pianist is going to live behind an orphanage. okay, that's an acceptably good plan
21:50:16 <sbp> I hope you're writing all this down, Talliesin
21:50:41 <[bjoern]> You need to work on your mob, they don't have their heart in god old fashioned collective violence.
21:51:01 <sbp> interesting typo
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21:51:29 <sbp> I wonder what the most vigorous typo on record is?
21:52:00 <Talliesin> I am not convinced by the plan.
21:52:16 <sbp> what part of it eludes your approbation?
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